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  • Code Golf Christmas Edition: How to print out a Christmas tree of height N

    - by TheSoftwareJedi
    Given a number N, how can I print out a Christmas tree of height N using the least number of code characters? N is assumed constrained to a min val of 3, and a max val of 30 (bounds and error checking are not necessary). N is given as the one and only command line argument to your program or script. All languages appreciated, if you see a language already implemented and you can make it shorter, edit if possible - comment otherwise and hope someone cleans up the mess. Include newlines and whitespace for clarity, but don't include them in the character count. A Christmas tree is generated as such, with its "trunk" consisting of only a centered "*" N = 3: * *** ***** * N = 4: * *** ***** ******* * N = 5: * *** ***** ******* ********* * N defines the height of the branches not including the one line trunk. Merry Christmas SO!

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  • HLSL tex2d sampler seemingly returning incorrect values; why?

    - by BlueNovember
    Hello all, I have code that needs to render regions of my object differently depending on their location. I am trying to use a colour map to define these regions, then get a value (0-14) representing this region by sampling the texture. The problem is when I sample from my colour map, I get collisions. Ie, two regions with different colours in the colourmap get the same value returned from the sampler. I've tried various formats of my colour map. I set the colours for each region to be "5" apart in each case; Indexed colour RGB, RGBA: region 1 will have RGB 5,5,5. region 2 will have RGB 10,10,10 and so on. HSV Greyscale: region 1 will have HSV 0,0,5. region 2 will have HSV 0,0,10 and so on. The tex2D sampler returns a value [0..1]. To get the "region number" I multiply this by 100 and divide by 5, expecting a number [0..20]. (But currently only using 0-14) I am using Shader Model 2 and FX Composer. //Colour map texture gColourmapTexture < string ResourceName = "Globe_Colourmap_Regions_Greyscale.png"; string ResourceType = "2D"; >; sampler2D gColourmapSampler : register(s1) = sampler_state { Texture = <gColourmapTexture>; #if DIRECT3D_VERSION >= 0xa00 Filter = MIN_MAG_MIP_LINEAR; #else /* DIRECT3D_VERSION < 0xa00 */ MinFilter = Linear; MipFilter = Linear; MagFilter = Linear; #endif /* DIRECT3D_VERSION */ AddressU = Clamp; AddressV = Clamp; }; ... //Then later, in a method float region = tex2D(gColourmapSampler,In.UV).x; //at this point I do not think it matters which of xyz components I pick; even in HSV they're all the same for my image. region *= 100; //Now in range [0..100] region /= 5; //Now in range [0..20] float3 levels[21]; //*Code populating "levels" array with what is essentially colour information * levels[1] = ... levels[2] = ... //Chose which level this region has, by looking up its region number float3 Level = levels[region];

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  • Seemingly useless debugging environment for Android

    - by mikeY
    I've just started debugging my first three line long android app and I can't seem to use the debug tool like I want to. Here's my code: public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) { super.onCreate(savedInstanceState); setContentView(R.layout.main); int a = 1 / 0; } Now I expect the debugger to halt the thread and show me the line number of statement where the division by zero occurs. No, instead it shows some other method internal to the system for which I have no source. To make the matters worse, there is no exception message either. Prior to this app, I created one which would do something when a button was pressed. If any exception was raised, again no useful line number or exception message would be shown. As of right now, there is no way to debug my app. Any ideas? I'm using the latest SDK along with Eclipse ADT plugin and debugging on a real device (Nexus One).

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  • maximum execution time for javascript

    - by Andrew Chang
    I know both ie and firefox have limits for javascript execution here: hxxp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=175500 Based on number of statements executed, I heard it was 5 million somewhere in ie hxxp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_iKHhdfpN-MJ:kb.mozillazine.org/Dom.max_script_run_time+dom.max_script_run_time&hl=en&gl=ca&strip=1 (google cache since site takes forever to load for me) based on number of seconds in firefox, it's 10 seconds by default for my version The thing I don't get is what cases will go over these limits: I'm sure a giant loop will go over the limit for execution time But will an event hander go over the limit, if itself it's execution time is under the limit but if it occurs multiple times? Example: Lets say I have a timer on my page, that executes some javascript every 20 seconds. The execution time for the timer handler is 1 second. Does firefox and ie treat each call of the timer function seperatly, so it never goes over the limit, or is it that firefox/ie adds up the time of each call so after the handler finishes, so after 200 seconds on my site (with the timer called 10 times) an error occurs even though the timer handler itself is only 1 second long?

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  • How to enable Line numbering in Visual Studio

    - by Cyclone
    Why doesn't VS have any sort of line numbering? Is there any way to enable it, or a plugin for it? I know, the number of lines of code in a program doesn't matter, but sometimes it is nice to know how long a program is, or what line number something is for reference. I can't seem to find that as an option anywhere, to my surprise. Thanks for the help! This is Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate. (if you have read my older questions, I've been using 2008 Express until now.)

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  • How to run an application as root without asking for an admin password?

    - by kvaruni
    I am writing a program in Objective-C (XCode 3.2, on Snow Leopard) that is capable of either selectively blocking certain sites for a duration or only allow certain sites (and thus block all others) for a duration. The reasoning behind this program is rather simple. I tend to get distracted when I have full internet access, but I do need internet access during my working hours to get to a number of work-related websites. Clearly, this is not a permanent block, but only helps me to focus whenever I find myself wandering a bit too much. At the moment, I am using a Unix script that is called via AppleScript to obtain Administrator permissions. It then activates a number of ipfw rules and clears those after a specific duration to restore full internet access. Simple and effective, but since I am running as a standard user, it gets cumbersome to enter my administrator password each and every time I want to go "offline". Furthermore, this is a great opportunity to learn to work with XCode and Objective-C. At the moment, everything works as expected, minus the actual blocking. I can add a number of sites in a list, specify whether or not I want to block or allow these websites and I can "start" the blocking by specifying a time until which I want to stay "offline". However, I find it hard to obtain clear information on how I can run a privileged Unix command from Objective-C. Ideally, I would like to be able to store information with respect to the Administrator account into the Keychain to use these later on, so that I can simply move into "offline" mode with the convenience of clicking a button. Even more ideally, there might be some class in Objective-C with which I can block access to some/all websites for this particular user without needing to rely on privileged Unix commands. A third possibility is in starting this program with root permissions and the reducing the permissions until I need them, but since this is a GUI application that is nested in the menu bar of OS X, the results are rather awkward and getting it to run each and every time with root permission is no easy task. Anyone who can offer me some pointers or advice? Please, no security-warnings, I am fully aware that what I want to do is a potential security threat.

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  • How do I stop displaying a J2ME MIDP application, just before destroying it?

    - by Paul Marshall
    I have a J2ME application where the user has the option to dial a phone number from within the application. This should be the last thing the user does with the app, so it should stop displaying anything. My current code: public void callAndExit() { // use a platform-specific request to dial MyMidletThingummy.getInstance().platformRequest( "tel:" + number ); notifyDestroyed(); } The call works just fine, uses the phone's native way of calling, etc. The problem is that, just after the call completes (whenever the user hangs up), my application displays for a split second before being destroyed. Is there something I can do so that I stop displaying the MIDlet (and, say, show the phone's home screen or whatever else it would rather display), then dial out?

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  • How do I create a foreign key in SQL Server?

    - by mmattax
    I have never "hand coded" creation code for SQL Server and foreign key deceleration is seemingly different from SQL Server and Postgres...here is my sql so far: drop table exams; drop table question_bank; drop table anwser_bank; create table exams ( exam_id uniqueidentifier primary key, exam_name varchar(50), ); create table question_bank ( question_id uniqueidentifier primary key, question_exam_id uniqueidentifier not null, question_text varchar(1024) not null, question_point_value decimal, constraint question_exam_id foreign key references exams(exam_id) ); create table anwser_bank ( anwser_id uniqueidentifier primary key, anwser_question_id uniqueidentifier, anwser_text varchar(1024), anwser_is_correct bit ); when I run the query I get this error: Msg 8139, Level 16, State 0, Line 9 Number of referencing columns in foreign key differs from number of referenced columns, table 'question_bank'. Can you spot the error? thanks.

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  • easiest way to convert virtualbox snapshots to tree view

    - by amir beygi
    HI all My virtual box snapshot view is like this Name: Snapshot 2 (UUID: cb45aef4-54d4-4c4e-ad3e-dd7cccb6103a) Name: s131 (UUID: 8ec30c82-7796-4e51-8161-979f1b95fb0f) Name: s131 (UUID: 42066f33-969b-41f3-a779-7f6e2c45ea2c) Name: s131 (UUID: d71b9bc5-b862-46b5-ae4d-f88d3dd9756d) Name: s131 (UUID: 681896a9-7e61-4b5a-90bc-cb1bd785c6fc) Name: s131 (UUID: d7bf8593-d218-442d-b23b-4ee16e74087d) Name: s131 (UUID: e8b16fd2-7add-4294-b908-34c4e6dc79dc) Name: s131 (UUID: 57c3f5d7-d4ed-4a62-a7b8-5594f819e08e) Name: Snapshot 3 (UUID: 4a684149-9dd6-4bb2-baf5-5f590e91a344) Name: Snapshot 4 (UUID: d4cbaa7c-ae78-41e0-9962-46c587a9c667) Name: Snapshot 5 (UUID: 81567b6e-eea9-49a6-b3b8-a07f0be337d8) * and i want to convert this text to a tree like this Name: Snapshot 2 (UUID: cb45aef4-54d4-4c4e-ad3e-dd7cccb6103a) +--Name: s131 (UUID: 8ec30c82-7796-4e51-8161-979f1b95fb0f) +--Name: s131 (UUID: 42066f33-969b-41f3-a779-7f6e2c45ea2c) +--Name: s131 (UUID: d71b9bc5-b862-46b5-ae4d-f88d3dd9756d) +--Name: s131 (UUID: 681896a9-7e61-4b5a-90bc-cb1bd785c6fc) | +--Name: s131 (UUID: d7bf8593-d218-442d-b23b-4ee16e74087d) | +--Name: s131 (UUID: e8b16fd2-7add-4294-b908-34c4e6dc79dc) | +--Name: s131 (UUID: 57c3f5d7-d4ed-4a62-a7b8-5594f819e08e) +--Name: Snapshot 3 (UUID: 4a684149-9dd6-4bb2-baf5-5f590e91a344) +--Name: Snapshot 4 (UUID: d4cbaa7c-ae78-41e0-9962-46c587a9c667) +--Name: Snapshot 5 (UUID: 81567b6e-eea9-49a6-b3b8-a07f0be337d8) * or even an array that contents line number and parent's line number. My environment is linux, programming language is C, and i got this results from this shell command VBoxManage snapshot s2000 showvminfo s|grep Name|grep UUID

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  • Getting the count of rows in a Java resultset

    - by Mr Morgan
    Hello Does anyone know a better way of getting the number of rows in a Java resultset returned from a MySQL database? I'm currently using this: public static int getResultSetRowCount(ResultSet resultSet) { int size = 0; try { resultSet.last(); size = resultSet.getRow(); resultSet.beforeFirst(); } catch(Exception ex) { return 0; } return size; } But am open to alternatives. The resultset returned is not going to be the total number of rows read from the database so I don;t think I can use SQL COUNT. Thanks Mr Morgan.

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  • textbox not getting refreshed

    - by oo
    i am doing an ajax call and i refresh a partial view. Inside the partial view i have this: <%=Html.TextBox("instance.Id", Model.Id)%> when i put a breakpoint here over Model.Id it has a number in it but after the ajax refresh is done the textbox just shows up with a 0. When i do a full browser refresh, the correct number shows up in the textbox. when i use firebug to look at data in my callback i see this: <input id="instance_Id" name="instance.Id" type="text" value="0" /> Everything else in the partial view refreshes fine. any ideas on what could be going wrong here?

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  • SSIS FTP task connection error

    - by swapna
    Hi, I have a FTP connection manager in SSIS. I have configured it with serevr IP, port number, user name, and password. It was working fine. But suddenly its stopped working. But i am able to login directly to the FTP web site directly .It was not working temporarily.But now its working with same login credentials. But my FTP connection manager in SSIS is unable to connect to the server. with following Error message "connection cannot be established.server name ,port number ,credentials may be invalid" What could be the reason? I have checked servername,port and login credentials all are same. Note: This is a ssl ftp website(https://xxx.xx.xx.com/) Some one please look into this isssue and provide a solution. Thanks SNA

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  • MATLAB using MAT2CELL

    - by Ali
    i have the following matrices letter=[A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z ... a b c d e f g h ii jj k l m o p q r s t u v w x y z]; number=[one two three four five six seven eight nine zero]; character =[number letter]; Character becomes a matrix of 42 by 1464, but i would like to break it into cells of 42 by 24 using mat2cell. How can i please do it, every time i try i get an error????

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  • Endianness inside CPU registers

    - by Abhishek Tamhane
    I need help understanding endianness inside CPU registers of x86 processors. I wrote this small assembly program: section .data section .bss section .text global _start _start: nop mov eax, 0x78FF5ABC mov ebx,'WXYZ' nop ; GDB breakpoint here. mov eax, 1 mov ebx, 0 int 0x80 I ran this program in GDB with a breakpoint on line number 10 (commented in the source above). At this breakpoint, info registers shows the value of eax=0x78ff5abc and ebx=0x5a595857. Since the ASCII codes for W, X, Y, Z are 57, 58, 59, 5A respectively; and intel is little endian, 0x5a595857 seems like the correct byte order (least significant byte first). Why isn't then the output for eax register 0xbc5aff78 (least significant byte of the number 0x78ff5abc first) instead of 0x78ff5abc?

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  • Regex Problem in PHP

    - by Chris
    I'm attempting to utilize the following Regex pattern: $regex = '/Name: [a-zA-Z ]*] [0-9]/'; When testing it in Rubular, it works fine, but when using PHP the expression never returns true, even when it should. Incidentally, if I remove the "[0-9]" part, it works fine. Is there some difference in PHP's regex syntax that I'm overlooking? Edit: I'm looking for the characters "Name:" then a name containing any number of letters or spaces, then a "]", then a space, then a single number. So "Name: Chris] 5" would return true and "Name: Chris] [lorem ipsum]" should return false. I also tried escaping the second bracket "\[" but this did not fix the problem.

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  • matching files with regular expressions

    - by Javier
    Dear all, I have an input file with a list of movies (Note that there might be some repeated entries): American_beauty__1h56mn38s_ As_Good_As_It_Gets As_Good_As_It_Gets _DivX-ITA__Casablanca_M_CURTIZ_1942_Bogart-bergman_ Capote_EN_DVDRiP_XViD-GeT-AW _DivX-ITA__Casablanca_M_CURTIZ_1942_Bogart-bergman_ I would to find the corresponding match (line number) from another reference file for each of the entries in the first file: American beauty.(1h56mn38s) As Good As It Gets Capote.EN.DVDRiP.XViD-GeT-AW [DivX-ITA] Casablanca(M.CURTIZ 1942 Bogart-bergman) Quills (2000)(7.4) The desired output would be something like (Reference Movie + Line number from the Reference File): American beauty.(1h56mn38s) 1 As Good As It Gets 2 As Good As It Gets 2 [DivX-ITA] Casablanca(M.CURTIZ 1942 Bogart-bergman) 4 Capote.EN.DVDRiP.XViD-GeT-AW 3 [DivX-ITA] Casablanca(M.CURTIZ 1942 Bogart-bergman) 4 Basically, the difference between the entries in both files is that some characters such as: blank spaces, parenthesis, points, etc. have been replaced by underscores. Does anybody could shed some light on it? Best wishes, Javier

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  • Code Golf: Beehive

    - by LiraNuna
    The challenge The shortest code by character count that will generate a beehive from user input. A beehive is defined a a grid of hexagons in a size inputted by the user as two positive numbers greater than zero (no need to validate input). The first number (W) represents the width of the beehive - or - how many hexagons are on each row. The second number (H) represents the height of the beehive - or - how many hexagons are on each column. A Single hexagon is made from three ASCII characters: _, / and \, and three lines: __ / \ \__/ Hexagons complete each other: the first column of the beehive will be 'low', and the second will be high - alternating and repeating in the same pattern forming W hexagons. This will be repeated H times to form a total of WxH hexagons. Test cases: Input: 1 1 Output: __ / \ \__/ Input: 4 2 Output: __ __ __/ \__/ \ / \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \ / \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ Input: 2 5 Output: __ __/ \ / \__/ \__/ \ / \__/ \__/ \ / \__/ \__/ \ / \__/ \__/ \ / \__/ \__/ Input: 11 3 Output: __ __ __ __ __ __/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__ / \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ / \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ / \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ Code count includes input/output (i.e full program).

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  • Access to Apache::DBI from DBI

    - by hpavc
    Is it possible to access a Apache::DBI database handle from a perl script (that isn't running under mod_perl). What I am looking for is database pooling for my perl scripts, I have a fair number of database sources (oracle/mysql) and a growing number of scripts. Some ideas like SQLRelay, using Oracle10XE with database links and pooling, and or convert all scripts to SOAP calls, etc are becoming more and more viable. But if there was a mechanism for reusing Apache::DBI I could fight this a bit. I have no non-perl requirements, so we don't have a php/jdbc implementation or similar to deal with. Thanks

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  • Sysadmin 101: How can I figure out why my server crashes and monitor performance?

    - by bflora
    I have a Drupal-powered site that seems to have neverending performance problems. It was butt-slow about 5 months ago. I brought in some guys who installed nginx for anonymous visitors, ajaxified a few queries so they wouldn't fire during page load, and helped me find a few bottlenecks in the code. For about a month, the site was significantly faster, though not "fast" by any stretch of the word. Meanwhile, I'm now shelling out $400/month to Slicehost to host a site that gets less than 5,000/uniques a day. Yes, you read that right. Go Drupal. Recently the site started crashing again and is slow again. I can't afford to hire people to come in, study my code from top to bottom, and make changes that may or may not help anymore. And I can't afford to throw more hardware at the problem. So I need to figure out what the problem is myself. Questions: When apache crashes, is it possible to find out what caused it to crash? There has to be a way, right? If so, how can I do this? Is there software I can use that will tell me which process caused my server to die? (e.g. "Apache crashed because someone visited page X." or "Apache crashed because you were importing too many RSS items from feed X.") There's got to be a way to learn this, right? What's a good, noob-friendly way to monitor my current apache performance? My developer friends tell me to "just use Top, dude," but Top shows me a bunch of numbers without any context. I have no clue what qualifies as a bad number or a good number in Top, or which processes are relevant and which aren't. Are there any noob-friendly server monitoring tools out there? Ideally, I could have a page that would give me a color-coded indicator about how apache is performing and then show me a list of processes or pages that are sucking right now. This way, I could know when performance is bad and then what's causing it to be so bad. Why does PHP memory matter? My apparently has a 30MB memory foot print. Will it run faster if I bring that number down? Thanks for any advice. I spent a year or so trying to boost my advertising income so I could hire a contractor to solve my performance woes. I didn't want to have to learn all this sysadmin voodoo. I'm now resigned to the fact that might not have a choice.

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  • Help with a logic problem

    - by Stradigos
    I'm having a great deal of difficulty trying to figure out the logic behind this problem. I have developed everything else, but I really could use some help, any sort of help, on the part I'm stuck on. Back story: *A group of actors waits in a circle. They "count off" by various amounts. The last few to audition are thought to have the best chance of getting the parts and becoming stars. Instead of actors having names, they are identified by numbers. The "Audition Order" in the table tells, reading left-to-right, the "names" of the actors who will be auditioned in the order they will perform.* Sample output: etc, all the way up to 10. What I have so far: using System; using System.Collections; using System.Text; namespace The_Last_Survivor { class Program { static void Main(string[] args) { //Declare Variables int NumOfActors = 0; System.DateTime dt = System.DateTime.Now; int interval = 3; ArrayList Ring = new ArrayList(10); //Header Console.Out.WriteLine("Actors\tNumber\tOrder"); //Add Actors for (int x = 1; x < 11; x++) { NumOfActors++; Ring.Insert((x - 1), new Actor(x)); foreach (Actor i in Ring) { Console.Out.WriteLine("{0}\t{1}\t{2}", NumOfActors, i, i.Order(interval, x)); } Console.Out.WriteLine("\n"); } Console.In.Read(); } public class Actor { //Variables protected int Number; //Constructor public Actor(int num) { Number = num; } //Order in circle public string Order(int inter, int num) { //Variable string result = ""; ArrayList myArray = new ArrayList(num); //Filling Array for (int i = 0; i < num; i++) myArray.Add(i + 1); //Formula foreach (int element in myArray) { if (element == inter) { result += String.Format(" {0}", element); myArray.RemoveAt(element); } } return result; } //String override public override string ToString() { return String.Format("{0}", Number); } } } } The part I'm stuck on is getting some math going that does this: Can anyone offer some guidance and/or sample code?

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  • how to store BigInteger values in oracle database.

    - by Bipul
    I have connected Java program to Oracle database using JDBC. I want to store BigInteger values(512 bits) in the database. What should be the type of the column? I m trying like this: I have taken a column of number type in the database. I converted BigInteger to BigDecimal like this: BigInteger b=new BigInteger("5779857570957802579079"); Number n =b; BigDecimal d=(BigDecimal)n; PreparedStatement pstmt=con.prepareStatemant("insert into database values(?,?)"); pstmt.setString(1,"john"); pstmt.setBigDecimal(2,d); I am getting the following exception: javax.servlet.ServletException: java.lang.ClassCastException: java.math.BigInteger cannot be cast to java.math.BigDecimal root cause java.lang.ClassCastException: java.math.BigInteger cannot be cast to java.math.BigDecimal Is there anything wrong in this code snippet? If there is, please suggest other methods.

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  • Demystifying gcc under lpthreads

    - by Berkay
    in these i'm playing with thread library and trying to implement some functions. One of the tutorial says that to run the program use : gcc -lpthread -lrt -lc -lm project1.c scheduler.c -o out first of all i need deep understanding of what is gcc doing in each line, lpthread is used for what? what are the contributions of lrt -lc -lm ? project1.c and scheduler.c is compiled together so what should i understand? i checked the code and any of them not included in project1.c or scheduler.c. as an output clearly it gives "out". secondly the author states that to run the program you have to use ./out number filename (For example, ./out 2 sample.txt) To make these clear as far as i understand the main function gets number and sample.txt as an input.(?) thanks for your answers and making me clear.

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  • GWT i18n - Plural Forms doesn't work at all?

    - by PEZ
    I'm using GWT internationalization Messages. The documentation for Plural Forms says this should work: @DefaultMessage("{0} {1,number} hours {2}") @PluralText({"one", "an hour"}) String hours(String prefix, @PluralCount int count, String suffix); Well, it doesn't. Whatever value of count it still delivers DefaultMessage (e.g. "1 hours ago"). Same if I use a .properties file: hours[one]=an hour hours[few]=some hours hours={0} {1,number} hours {2} Is there a bug in the docs or in GWT (I'm using GWT 2.0.3) or in me? If any of the two former, anyone knows of a workaround?

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  • Python equivalent of Java's compareTo()

    - by astay13
    I'm doing a project in Python (3.2) for which I need to compare user defined objects. I'm used to OOP in Java, where one would define a compareTo() method in the class that specifies the natural ordering of that class, as in the example below: public class Foo { int a, b; public Foo(int aa, int bb) { a = aa; b = bb; } public int compareTo(Foo that) { // return a negative number if this < that // return 0 if this == that // return a positive number if this > that if (this.a == that.a) return this.b - that.b; else return this.a - that.a; } } I'm fairly new to classes/objects in Python, so I'd like to know what is the "pythonic" way to define the natural ordering of a class?

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  • scanf("%d", char*) - char-as-int format string?

    - by SF.
    What is the format string modifier for char-as-number? I want to read in a number never exceeding 255 (actually much less) into an unsigned char type variable using sscanf. Using the typical char source[] = "x32"; char separator; unsigned char dest; int len; len = sscanf(source,"%c%d",&separator,&dest); // validate and proceed... I'm getting the expected warning: argument 4 of sscanf is type char*, int* expected. As I understand the specs, there is no modifier for char (like %sd for short, or %lld for 64-bit long) is it dangerous? (will overflow just overflow (roll-over) the variable or will it write outside the allocated space?) is there a prettier way to achieve that than allocating a temporary int variable? ...or would you suggest an entirely different approach altogether?

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