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• ADSL Modem Goes Slower Than Dialup

  - by peter

  Hi All, I have two ADSL modems, the first one does not have wireless, but is configured and working fine at around 6 - 7 mbps (ADSL) on Orcon in New Zealand. I bought a Belkin N150 wireless router to replace the first one. I configured it exactly the same as the first one, but a speed test confirms that it is running slower than dial up. One difference I noticed is that the first modem (a linksys) came from Orcon, and didn't have an ADSL username and password set up. The Belkin modem on the other hand wouldn't let me leave the username and password field blank. Any ideas? I am a techy guy, so it doesn't appear to be anything obvious with the settings I have missed. Thanks.

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• Can't make virtual host working

  - by sica07

  I have to create a virtual host on a server which, previously hosted a single website (domain name). Now I'm trying to add a second domain on this server (using the same nameserver). What I've done so far: Initially there was no virtual host so I've made one for the second domain: NameVirtualHost *:80 <VirtualHost *:80> DocumentRoot /var/www/bla ServerName www.blabla.com ServerAlias blabla.com <Directory /var/www/blabla> Order deny,allow Allow from all AllowOverride All </Directory> </VirtualHost *:80> Because nothing happend, I changed the DocumentRoot of the apache server to /var/www (initially was the root document of the first website -/var/www/html) and created a virtual host for the first domain too: <VirtualHost *:80> DocumentRoot /var/www/html ServerName www.first.com ServerAlias first.com <Directory /var/www/html> Order deny,allow Allow from all AllowOverride All </Directory> </VirtualHost *:80> In this case, first.com is working ok, but bla.com not. When I ping blabla.com I get the "unkown host" response. What am I doing wrong? Do I have to modify something in the DNS settings too? Thank you.

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• Understanding Zabbix Triggers

  - by Mediocre Gopher

  I have zabbix set with an item to monitor a log file on a zabbix client: log["/var/log/program_name/client.log","ERROR:","UTF-8",100] And a trigger to determine when that log file get's more ERRORs: {Template_Linux:log["/var/log/program_name/client.log","ERROR:","UTF-8",100].change(0)}#0 This trigger gets tripped when the log file gets ERRORs the first time, but then that first trigger just sits around for ever in Monitoring-Triggers. My understanding is that the next time the server checks the value of log["/var/log/program_name/client.log","ERROR:","UTF-8",100] and sees that it hasn't changed that the trigger would go away. Obviously this isn't the case. Could someone explain why this first trigger isn't going away? Ultimately my goal is to receive an email whenever ERRORs are added to that log file, but I would like to understand how triggers are working first.

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• What is the collaborative screen shot/diagramming application recently featured on Hacker News and p

  - by wonsungi

  A few days ago, I saw this video for a screen capture application. I'm pretty sure I followed a link from Hacker News, possibly to a Life Hacker article. The video was very short, but demonstrated how the application could be used: The application was basically a movable/resize-able view port with a button. When the button is pressed, the contents of the view port are saved to an image (basically a screen capture.) The interesting thing is what you could do after that point. One of the specific examples from the video browsed to Google maps street view, grabbed a photo of an intersection, then scribbled notes about where to meet and where the restaurant was in colored "marker." Another example shown was grabbing a house layout from from CAD tool, then scribbling notes on it. The last part of the video showed several possible uses being scrolled through the application's view port. Now, it seemed it was very easy to share these images with other people because there was some type of integration, either with their own site and/or common social websites/chat services. The application was shown running on both Windows and Mac. edit: I think there was an iPhone app, as well. Anyone know what this application is? I tried searching Google, Hacker News, and Life Hacker already. It is not Jing.

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• Is it possible to fake a Windows install for grub to add to boot menu?

  - by Mussnoon

  When doing a fresh install of a Linux distro (Ubuntu, for instance) on a fresh hard drive, if I want to install Linux first, and Windows later, is it possible to make grub think there's a Windows install on the first partition so that it'll be added to the boot menu after the installation is complete? To illustrate, I have a new hard drive and have created two primary partitions (both still raw) and two logical (Ext4 and Swap). I want to install Ubuntu on the Ext4 partition first, and some version of Windows on the first primary partition only after that (because I currently don't have a Windows install disk, but do have one for Ubuntu). Is it possible to make Ubuntu add an entry for Windows right now and avoid having to repair grub after I've installed Windows?

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• Why does partition tool GParted read the 190GB of data twice when shrink a 250GB partition to 190GB?

  - by Jian Lin

  When using GParted to shrink a 250GB partition to 190GB, I thought it will move the 60GB of data back into the 190GB region and call it done. But instead it reads the 190GB of data twice, the first time taking about 1 hour and the second time for 2 hours. The question is: 1) how come it touches the 190GB of data instead of the 60GB of data? 2) how come it reads it twice? Update: i am suspecting this: it says "moving /dev/sdb1 to the right and then shrink it to 190GB"... so is that the reason, first it is to shrink the partition to 190GB, and then move it to the right? So it is not moving to the right and then shrink it, but to shrink it first and move it. (cannot move first because the original 250GB is the whole hard drive). Also, why move it to the right?

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• Can I setup NAT for the same service, two public IPs on different routers to the same private IP?

  - by James

  This might be needlessly complex, but here goes. I've got two Firebox x550e devices. The first has a local IP of 10.0.0.1, public IP 64.x.x.x. The second has a local IP of 10.0.0.10, public IP 70.x.x.x. There is an FTP server on our LAN with a private IP of 10.0.0.55. I've set up NAT rules in each of the Fireboxes, on the first firebox it is 64.x.x.x-10.0.0.55 tcp 21, on the second 70.x.x.x-10.0.0.55 tcp 21. The first rule works fine. I can ftp to 64.x.x.x and everything's good. The second rule doesn't work. ftp to 70.x.x.x results in a connection timeout. The second firebox logs say the connection is being allowed through. The default gateway on the FTP server is 10.0.0.1 (the first firebox) If I change the default gateway on the server to 10.0.0.10, the rule on the second firebox starts working, but the rule from the first firebox stops. Is there some way to make this work for both rules?

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• How long are fragmented TCP fragments kept in the TCP server

  - by Justin

  Suppose that a given TCP fragment is fragmented into two IP datagrams, and that the first datagram arrives to the TCP server, but the second datagram never arrives. After a certain amount of time the TCP server sends a keepalive, and determines that the client is alive. What does the TCP server then do with this first datagram? Does is wait for the second datagram to arrive, or does it discard the first datagram?

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• Why Does DreamWeaver CS5 Discriminate between File Extensions, Even After Modding Mime Types!?

  - by Sam

  Hi folks, Even After I forced DreamWeaver CS5 to allow opening of .ast extensions as a MIME type of php5, which DreamWeaver now opens and colors correctly as described here, I still have trouble figuring out why it still discriminates between the two file extensions! Symptoms: External Files & Design View I have a file foo.php which php includes other files (e.g. the php-combined css.php and js.php). Now, when opening foo.php all functions work perfectly: the external (included) php files are all recognised correctly. However, when I change foo.php foo.ast, and open it again, It does not recognise the files extensions anymore in the top bar. Also, I lose the Design / Live View functionality.** When I change foo.ast to foo.php, all works again! Anyone any clues of why there remains a a difference between one and other extension? Note1: I have added the .ast extension to these four files, next to .php: 1 C:\Users\Sam\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Dreamweaver CS5\configuration\DocumentTypes\MMDocumentTypes.xml 2 C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Dreamweaver CS5\configuration\DocumentTypes\MMDocumentTypes.xml 3 C:\Users\Sam\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Dreamweaver CS5\en_US\Configuration\Extensions.txt 4 C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Dreamweaver CS5\configuration\Extensions.txt Note2: sometimes, even .php files do not want to show in design view or live view. Could this be caused by a corrupted installation?

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• Possible boot conflict?

  - by Evan Kroske

  I was installing Ubuntu on a computer on which Windows XP was already installed. The computer has multiple hard drive bays, so I decided to remove the XP HDD and install Ubuntu on a blank HDD when it was the only HDD in the system. Unfortunately, if I now try to boot Ubuntu with the Windows XP drive in the second slot, nothing will boot. However, if Windows XP is in the first slot, it will boot fine. Can anybody explain why this happens? When I was checking out the BIOS to see if something was messed up, I discovered that when Ubuntu is in the first slot, the BIOS doesn't recognize any HDDs. However, if XP is in the first slot, the BIOS recognizes both drives. Any hypotheses about why this happens? Edit: Here's the setup. I have an old server with seven SCSI HDD slots. I have five identical 68 Gb SCSI drives, but I can keep only two plugged in. XP is still installed on the first drive, but I reinstalled Ubuntu on the second drive and had Grub overwrite the XP bootloader on the first drive. Now, the setup works fine, and I can use Grub to load either XP or Ubuntu. However, if I plug in another identical blank HDD in the third slot, the computer recognizes only the XP drive and doesn't boot. Grub starts to load, then gives me a "disk not found" error. Running ls from the grub rescue prompt only shows one drive with two partitions. I guess this is a BIOS problem, but I'd still like to know what triggers it. What about a blank drive could cause the BIOS to freak out?

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• Seizing naming master from child domain server

  - by meera

  when I am trying to seize the role from my child domain server the naming master I get the following error fsmo maintenance: seize naming master Attempting safe transfer of domain naming FSMO before seizure. ldap_modify_sW error 0x34(52 (Unavailable). Ldap extended error message is 000020AF: SvcErr: DSID-03210380, problem 5002 (UN AVAILABLE), data 8438 Win32 error returned is 0x20af(The requested FSMO operation failed. The current FSMO holder could not be contacted.) ) Depending on the error code this may indicate a connection, ldap, or role transfer error. Transfer of domain naming FSMO failed, proceeding with seizure ... Server "win-fb20ixk90mu" knows about 5 roles Schema - CN=NTDS Settings,CN=WIN-3918XHC5STU,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Na me,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=HCL,DC=com Naming Master - CN=NTDS Settings,CN=WIN-FB20IXK90MU,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First- Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=HCL,DC=com PDC - CN=NTDS Settings,CN=WIN-FB20IXK90MU,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name, CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=HCL,DC=com RID - CN=NTDS Settings,CN=WIN-FB20IXK90MU,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name, CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=HCL,DC=com Infrastructure - CN=NTDS Settings,CN=WIN-FB20IXK90MU,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First -Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=HCL,DC=com

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• duplicate data from another sheet in Excel

  - by Max

  I have a rather large Excel document with a lot of separate sheets in it. There is some info (email, last name, first name) that has to be the first three columns on each sheet. In order to be sure that no mistakes are made, I created a "Person" sheet that only contains those three columns. On the other sheets, I want to get the info from that Person sheet. I can get the email column in several ways (right now, I have =Person[Email] in that column), and then I use that to get the last name and first name. So, there isn't a problem getting the data into those other sheets; but now, I want to sort by last name or first name (this is all in a table). What happens is that if I sort by Name, then you can see a flash where it re-orders the entire table, but then the =Person[Email] gets run again and the first column resets back to the order that is in the Person sheet. So this is even worse--not only can't I sort properly, but now the entire table is messed up because all of the data is in name ascending order except for the email addresses which are in the default order. Is there a way to get the email column to replicate in all other sheets, but then stop updating so I can sort/etc? Thanks in advance

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• How to turn off Excel "Header Row" without losing data in it?

  - by Ken

  I've been sent an Excel spreadsheet with a weird first row. Some of the cells say "Column1", "Column2", etc., but I can't delete their contents. If I select the cell and hit backspace, it goes blank, but when I press return, it goes right back to saying "Column1". I found another answer here that suggested this could be caused by "Cell validation", but the validation window says "Any value", and also "show alert" (and I'm not seeing an alert), so I don't think that's it. The first row is white text on a blue background, if that means anything. The spreadsheet was sent to me in XLSX format, but I tried resaving as XLS and opening that, and it seems to make no difference. This is with the "ribbon" version of Excel (they got rid of the Help menu so I don't know how to see what version number it is!). Thanks! Update: The Excel online help says to use ribbon Home tab - Cells - Delete - ... to delete cells. When I select anything on the first row, this pop-up menu is dimmed. So maybe Excel doesn't think row 1 consists of "cells"? Though I don't know what else it would call them. Update 2: I found it, kind of. If I click the "Design" tab in the ribbon, then uncheck "Header Row", then first row becomes a normal row of cells again. Unfortunately, the contents disappear entirely. I want to delete a few cells, not all 50+! And if I copy the first row before turning off "Header Row", it disappears from the clipboard when I uncheck that. So I kind of know what mode it's stuck in, but not a good way out of it.

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• Windows 7 - Stuck at splash screen on cold boot only

  - by Suhan

  Hey guys, Wondering if anyone has any ideas on what's causing my pc to lockup at the splash screen on bootup for 1-3minutes. This ONLY happens on the first power up, subsequent reboots run fine. Running on a Falcon II SSD I did the customary move of files to another drive when i first formatted the ssd. The slow first boot only started happening recently. Thanks in advance!

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• Nested IF's in Excel

  - by user1590499

  I have two columns with the following possibilities (0 for first column, and then 0 or 1 for second column; or a string for first column, and a 0 or 1 for second column). name,flag 0,0 david,0 0,1 sammy,1 How would I create a third column that looks like the following: name+flag 0 david 1 sammy Basically, if there are 2 0's in the two columns in a row, put a 0 in the new column. if there is a string in the first column in the row, no matter what the second column in the row says, put the string in the new column. and if there is a 0 in the first column and a 1 on the second column, put a 1 in the third column. Can I do this best with nested-if's? I tried something like name, flag, name+flag 0,0,=IF(A2<>0,A2,IF(B2=1,B2,0),0) But it didn't seem to work for me...

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• Keep Livestream Video maximized on second monitor

  - by nolandark

  I have two monitors, I work with the first and watch livestreams on the second one. If I maximize the video on the second one and return to work on the first monitor, the video gets minimized again. What can I do to keep the video maximized while working on the first monitor? I use UltraMon.

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• How to play individual albums in iTunes?

  - by Herb Caudill

  I know of two ways to play one specific album in iTunes: Do a search that's specific enough to include just that album and no other tracks; press a "Play album" button. (Doesn't work in cover flow or list view.) Go to list view; turn on column browser; in View/Column Browser, make sure "Albums" is showing; double-click an album name. These are fine as far as they go, but: Double-clicking an album in cover flow will play the album, and then keep going (in alphabetical order). That's no good. In playlists like "Purchased" or "Recently Added", you can either view and play whole albums, or sort by date added; you can't do both. In general, there's no straightforward way to get from a track in a playlist to the whole album it belongs to. What I would really, really like, would be to right-click on any song or album cover, anywhere, and choose "Play album". While I'm waiting for Apple to add that, any tips for simple album-centric listening?

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• How to install GIT on an offline RHEL?

  - by Stijn Vanpoucke

  I'm using the following commands from the manual to install GIT $ tar -zxf git-1.7.2.2.tar.gz $ cd git-1.7.2.2 $ make prefix=/usr/local all $ sudo make prefix=/usr/local install but I'm receiving the following exceptions ... cache.h: At top level: cache.h:746: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âtime_tâ cache.h:889: warning: âstruct timevalâ declared inside parameter list cache.h:895: warning: âstruct timevalâ declared inside parameter list cache.h:970: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before âoff_tâ cache.h:979: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before âoff_tâ cache.h:997: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before âoff_tâ cache.h:1057: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âoff_tâ cache.h:1063: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âuint32_tâ cache.h:1064: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before ânt h_packed_object_offsetâ cache.h:1065: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âfi nd_pack_entry_oneâ cache.h:1067: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âoff_tâ cache.h:1069: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âoff_tâ cache.h:1070: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âoff_tâ cache.h:1094: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before âoff_tâ cache.h:1168: error: expected â)â before â*â token cache.h:1177: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âre ad_in_fullâ cache.h:1178: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âwr ite_in_fullâ cache.h:1179: error: expected â=â, â,â, â;â, âasmâ or â__attribute__â before âwr ite_str_in_fullâ cache.h:1252: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âFILEâ In file included from credential-store.c:2: credential.h:28: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âFILEâ credential.h:29: error: expected declaration specifiers or â...â before âFILEâ In file included from credential-store.c:4: parse-options.h:115: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before âintptr_tâ credential-store.c: In function âparse_credential_fileâ: credential-store.c:13: error: âFILEâ undeclared (first use in this function) credential-store.c:13: error: âfhâ undeclared (first use in this function) credential-store.c:17: warning: implicit declaration of function âfopenâ credential-store.c:19: error: âerrnoâ undeclared (first use in this function) credential-store.c:19: error: âENOENTâ undeclared (first use in this function) credential-store.c:24: error: too many arguments to function âstrbuf_getlineâ credential-store.c:24: error: âEOFâ undeclared (first use in this function) credential-store.c:39: warning: implicit declaration of function âfcloseâ credential-store.c: In function âprint_entryâ: credential-store.c:44: warning: implicit declaration of function âprintfâ credential-store.c:44: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in fu nction âprintfâ credential-store.c: In function âmainâ: credential-store.c:132: warning: implicit declaration of function âumaskâ credential-store.c:144: error: âstdinâ undeclared (first use in this function) credential-store.c:144: error: too many arguments to function âcredential_readâ credential-store.c:147: warning: implicit declaration of function âstrcmpâ Is this because I didn't install the dependencies? apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev libexpat1-dev gettext libz-dev libssl-dev How do I install them offline?

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• How do I start the Workstation Service so I can use `net use`?

  - by nitefrog

  I have a Windows 7 machine that logs into a domain. The machine can net view and see the different shares, but when I try to use, net use * \\name\share, I get an error stating that the service is not started. Yet when I issue a net start, it states the service is already started. My other win7 machines work fine; they can see and use any of the shares. Is there a security setting that needs to be disabled or enabled? I really need to get this working, and I have no other ideas as the other machines have no problem accessing the shares on different systems. The error I am getting is , "The Workstation Service Has Not Been Started", but like I said other machines can connect fine, and when I issue a, "net start workstation", it states the service is already started. In addition the error number I am receiving is 2138. UPDATE: On the machine that is having issues. From the troubled machine if I issue a Net View \\name I can see all the shares on the machine I want to connect to. When I try to net use * \\name\sharename I get the error The Workstation service has not started. I have set both settings sc config lanmanworkstation start = auto and sc config lanmanserver start = auto on the Windows7 computer that is having issues. I have rebooted the computer and still no dice. I can net view any computer on the network and see all shares, but I cannot access any of the shares in which I can see. In the registry under the HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services Both LanmanServer and LanmanWorkstation start is set to 2. Screen capture of net use and view: The Services: This is really weird. What am I missing? It has to be a security setting...

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• server_name seems to be ignored in nginx

  - by user46171

  I have two domains set up in nginx.conf. Both are using SSL with their own certificates, and proxy to Apache. However the second domain is completely ignored, and nginx always resolves to the first domain. I can't see what in the issue is with this configuration, having set the server_name in each case correctly (as far as I can see): http { include mime.types; default_type application/octet-stream; keepalive_timeout 65; upstream site { # real IP addresses masked server xx.xxx.x.xxx; server xx.xxx.x.xxx; } server { # this domain always works listen 443; server_name *.first-site.com; ssl on; ssl_certificate /var/ssl/first-site.crt; ssl_certificate_key /var/ssl/first-site.key; location / { access_log off; proxy_connect_timeout 15; proxy_next_upstream error; proxy_pass http://site; proxy_set_header Host $http_host; proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Protocol https; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; proxy_redirect off; } } server { # this domain is ignored, always resolves to first-site.com listen 443; server_name *.second-site.com; ssl on; ssl_certificate /var/ssl/second-site.crt; ssl_certificate_key /var/ssl/second-site.key; location / { access_log off; proxy_connect_timeout 15; proxy_next_upstream error; proxy_pass http://site; proxy_set_header Host $http_host; proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Protocol https; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; proxy_redirect off; } } }

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• Difference between “system-on-chip” and “CPU”

  - by Tim

  Very confused, in some websites, they have this line: iPhone 5s CPU: Apple A7 other websites saying that: iPhone 5s System-on-chip: Apple 7 CPU: 1.3 GHz 64bit dual core other sources saying that iPhone 5s System-on-chip: Apple 7 CPU: 1.3 GHz 64bit dual core Apple 7 In Wikipedia, it said: The Apple A7 is a 64-bit system on a chip (SoC) designed by Apple Inc. It first appeared in the iPhone 5S, which was introduced on September 10, 2013. Apple states that it is up to twice as fast and has up to twice the graphics power compared to its predecessor, the Apple A6. While not the first 64-bit ARM CPU, it is the first to ship in a consumer smartphone or tablet computer. There are 2 sentences: The Apple A7 is a 64-bit system on a chip (SoC) and While not the first 64-bit ARM CPU Wikipedia also said “The A7 features an Apple-designed 64-bit 1.3–1.4 GHz ARMv8-A dual-core CPU, called Cyclone”. So System on chip is also CPU? very confused

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• Backing up 80G hard drive 1G per day

  - by barrycarter

  I want to securely backup my 80G HD, but doing a complete backup takes forever and slows down my machine, so I want to backup just 1G per day. Details: % First hurdle: on the first day, I want to backup the "first" 1G of the hard drive. Of course, there really is no "first" 1G on a hard drive. % After 80 days, I'll have my whole HD backed up... assuming none of my files ever change, which of course they do. So the backup plan/program must also catch file creation/changes as they come along. % The backups must be consistent, in that I can restore my system by restoring the backups sequentially. In other words, "dd if=/harddrive" probably won't work. % The backups should encrypt file contents AND names, but I don't see this as a major hurdle. % Once the backup has backed up everything (even changed files), it can re-backup the first 1G on my hard drive. Even though this backup is redundant, that's OK, because I always want to be backing up something (eg, if I'm backing up to optical media, the older media might start going corrupt). Is there a magic backup plan/program that does this? In reality, I want to do this for multiple machines with multiple drives each, but think that solving the above will solve the general case.

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• How to convert OpenVZ OS templte to bootable to image file?

  - by Medi

  My question is how to convert a pre-created OpenVZ OS template which are in tar.gz format (such as these) to an image file in order to be able boot it with other virtualization solutions such as QEMU or VirtualBox. In order to achieve this, I made an empty image file, I partitioned it, and made two partition, a primary partition and a extended partition for swap. I made the first partition ext3 (0x83) and the other one swap (0x82). Then I made the first one bootable, and copied the content of tar.gz to the first partition. But when I try to boot, it hangs at the first stage of booting.

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• Limiting to the ServerName in Apache2

  - by David

  I have 2 sites defined in my Apache2. Each one has a servername. For example: Server 1 (first in sites-enabled) responds to www.example.com Server 2 (second in sites-enabled) responds to www.example2.com Ok, the problem is when I type the server IP in the URL, the first server responds. How could I limit the response to only specifying its servername? I would like to block the IP calls. If that is not possible, I would like the second server to respond, not the first. I cannot change the order because there are aliases defined in the second server that would override the first server config.

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• Git push from post-receive

  - by meka

  I have two servers, let's call them first and second. First one is where the real development is done, and second one should be the replica. What I would like to do is put "git push" in post-receive, but there is one problem. Post-receive is executed as the user doing git push to first server, so I can't chmod 600 ssh key with no pass. What is the best practice for this? Thanx!

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