questions about dual-boot install Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7 on same hard drive

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Published on 2011-01-05T15:27:09Z Indexed on 2011/01/05 15:59 UTC
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I'd like to dual-boot install Ubuntu 10.04 on the same hard drive as Windows 7 which has already been installed.

  1. As to sources on the internet:

    I found a website iinet about dual-boot installation of Ubuntu 10.10 and Windows 7 on the same hard drive, which I think more specific than the one on Ubuntu Community without specific version of the OSes. Since I am installing Ubuntu 10.04 instead of 10.10, my question is whether their installers are same or almost same and if I can follow iinet for my dual-boot installation?

    Or are there better websites for information about dual-boot installtion of Ubuntu 10.04 and Windows 7?

  2. As to shrinking Windows partitions to make free space for Ubuntu partitions:

    iinet uses the partition software in Ubuntu's installer to shrink the Windows partition.

    But I saw in many website that the partition software in Ubuntu's installer cannot guarantee shrinking Windows 7 partitions successfully, so they recommended in general to shrink Windows partitions under Windows itself using its softwares. For example, in Ubuntu Community, it says:

    Some people think that the Windows partition must be resized only from within Windows Vista and Windows 7 using the shrink/resize option. ... If you use GParted Partition Editor in the Ubuntu Live CD be careful.

    So I was wondering which way to go in my situation?

  3. As to partition for bootloader files:

    In iinet, I don't see there is a partition created and dedicated to boot files (i.e. Grub files).

    However, I saw in many websites strongly suggesting using a boot partition for Grub files, especially for the purpose of separation and protection from installed OS files.

    I was wondering which way I should choose and why?

  4. As to installing bootloader Grub,

    in iinet, I see that to install Grub it only needs to specify the hard drive device for bootloader installation.

    However, in ubuntuguide(for more than 2 OSes and Ubuntu 9.04), some commands are needed to run in order to put Grub configuration files in MBR, and OS partition, for the chain-load process (where to find the files for the next stage).

    In Ubuntu Community, there are some related sentences which I don't quite understand how to do in practice:

    the only thing in your computer outside of Ubuntu that needs to be changed is a small code in the MBR (Master Boot Record) of the first hard disk. The MBR code is changed to point to the boot loader in Ubuntu.

    If you have a problem with changing the MBR code, you might prefer to just install the code for pointing to GRUB to the first sector of your Ubuntu partition instead. If you do that during the Ubuntu installation process, then Ubuntu won't boot until you configure some other boot manager to point to Ubuntu's boot sector. Windows Vista no longer utilizes boot.ini, ntdetect.com, and ntldr when booting. Instead, Vista stores all data for its new boot manager in a boot folder. Windows Vista ships with an command line utility called bcdedit.exe, which requires administrator credentials to use. You may want to read http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=112156 about it.

    Using a command line utility always has its learning curve, so a more productive and better job can be done with a free utility called EasyBCD, developed and mastered in during the times of Vista Beta already. EasyBCD is user friendly and many Vista users highly recommend EasyBCD.

    In what is quoted above, I was wondering how exactly I should change the MBR code to point to the bootloader in Ubuntu? if I fail to change MBR code, are the other suggested boot managers being bcdedit.exe and EasyBCD in Windows?

    With the three sources above, which one shall I follow?

Thanks and regards

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