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  • Problem compiling gnustep-gui-0.16.0 undefined reference to png_sizeof

    - by stefanB
    I'm trying to compile GNUstep on a linux box but gnustep-gui-0.16.0 package is failing. I downloaded GNUstep Startup stable 0.20.1 (http://wwwmain.gnustep.org/resources/downloads.php)and follow instructions about how to compile (./configure && make). I'm getting this error: libgnustep-gui.so: undefined reference to 'png_sizeof' I have compiled latest libpng (1.2.34) and I can see that png_sizeof is defined as macro. However, I'm not quite sure how to fix the gnustep-gui-0.16.0 build. I tried to pass the include/lib directory where libpng is installed to configure build but nothing seems to help. I have quite up to date linux box but using gcc 3.3 (upgrade is not an option - but this should not be a problem). Full error: Making all for tool set_show_service... Compiling file set_show_service.m ... Linking tool set_show_service ... ../Source/./obj/libgnustep-gui.so: undefined reference to `png_sizeof' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status gmake[3]: *** [obj/set_show_service] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [set_show_service.all.tool.variables] Error 2 gmake[1]: *** [internal-all] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bla/local/src/gnustep-startup-0.22.0/build/gnustep-gui-0.16.0' gmake[3]: *** [obj/set_show_service] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [set_show_service.all.tool.variables] Error 2 gmake[1]: *** [internal-all] Error 2 Any suggestions? Thanks

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  • GNUStep Getting Started

    - by RCIX
    I downloaded GNUStep and installed it, however i am not sure where i can find an IDE. does anyone know what programs serve as a GNUStep IDE/where to get them? Failing that, does anyone know of a tutorial on how to create and compile a basic GNUStep program?

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  • Simplifying the process of compiling and running objective-c apps in GNUstep

    - by Matthew
    I just installed GNUstep (following this post: http://www.jaysonjc.com/programming/objective-c-programming-in-windows-gnustep-projectcenter.html) It says to run this code: gcc -o helloworld helloworld.m -I /GNUstep/System/Library/Headers -L /GNUstep/System/Library/Libraries -lobjc -lgnustep-base -fconstant-string-class=NSConstantString every time I want to compile. It works just fine for me. However as I'm learning and will be compiling/running apps way often (making little changes and trying again), I'd like a simpler way to do this. Is there an easier way to compile and then run the app? Or am I just being lazy?

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  • Who uses GnuSTEP?

    - by adib
    This has been a big question lurking at the back of my head. From what I see, GnuSTEP nowadays is primarily a "hobby" project of a small but tightly-knit group of people. However I haven't seen a large commercial (off-the-shelf) application that uses it, apart from the small applications that comes with the GnuSTEP distribution. Heck, since even Ubuntu doesn't really use it then is GnuSTEP really more than being a "hobby" framework? I know that Sony's SNAP at one brief moment uses GnuSTEP, but they killed the platform before it can do anything meaningful.

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  • Automating GNUStep from Notepad++

    - by kim3er
    I use GNUStep to compile Objective-C on Windows 7 using GCC and MinGW. I'd like to be able to automate the "make" instruction (with make files) from Notepad++ and have any complier errors reported to Notepad++s console window. Does anyone have any experience with this? Rich

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  • Unable to find standard libraries when compiling Objective-C using GNUstep on Windows

    - by Jason Roberts
    I just installed GNUstep on my Windows XP machine and I'm attempting to compile the following Objective-C Hello World program from the command line: #import <Foundation/Foundation.h> int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; NSLog(@"Hello world\n"); [pool drain]; return 0; } When I try to compile the program from the command line like so gcc hello.m -o hello I end up getting the following error hello.m:1:34: Foundation/Foundation.h: No such file or directory Is there something I need to do order to inform the compiler of where the standard Objective-C libraries are located?

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  • GNUStep make with a precompiled (and prefixed) .pch header from Xcode project?

    - by d11wtq
    I'm trying to build an Xcode project with GNUStep-make. Right now the project is very small (3 classes) however it will grow to hundreds of classes over the coming weeks so I'm trying to get everything figured out and well-organised now. Xcode creates a ProjectName_Prefix.pch file which is a header that: a) get precompiled and b) is prefixed to every file in my project; at least if I understand correctly. Now, how do I tell GNUStep-make what to do with this file when it builds? I've added it to the XXX_PRECOMPILED_HEADERS variable. Cioccolata_OBJC_PRECOMPILED_HEADERS = Cioccolata_Prefix.pch With this in place the build fails with the error: Making all for framework Cioccolata... make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/Users/chris/Projects/Mac/Cioccolata/build/GNUStep/obj/PrecompiledHeaders/ObjC/Cioccolata_Prefix.pch', needed by `internal-precompile-headers'. Stop. make: *** [Cioccolata.all.framework.variables] Error 2 I've also got the following in my makefile: ADDITIONAL_OBJC_FLAGS += -include Cioccolata_Prefix.pch -Winvalid-pch I'm not sure what I've done wrong here. I basically have tried to follow the GNUStep documentation for precompiled headers. None of my project's source files expressly include the Foundation framework since this header does that.

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  • Build an Xcode project on a Linux machine

    - by d11wtq
    Without writing a GNUmakefile by hand, do any tools exist that understand Xcode projects and can build then directly against GNUstep, thus simplifying (slightly) the work required to keep projects functional under Cocoa/Mac and GNUstep/Linux? Basically, is there an xcodebuild style app for Linux? I looked at pbtomake a few weeks ago but it seems to be a dead project.

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  • Error With Foundation.h

    - by Nathan Campos
    Hello, I learning Objective-C in Linux(Ubuntu), but when i tryed to compile my application that needs the Foundation headers i got an error saying that the file cannot be found, but i have installed the GNUstep development package(gnustep-devel). Here is my code: // Fraction.h #import <Foundation/NSObject.h> @interface Fraction: NSObject { int numerator; int denominator; } - (void) print; - (void) setNumerator: (int) n; - (void) setDenominator: (int) d; - (void) numerator; - (void) denominator; @end And here is the console log: ubuntu@eeepc:~$ gcc main.m -o frac -lobjc In file included from main.m:3: Fraction.h:2:26: error: objc/NSObject.h: No such file or directory In file included from main.m:3: Fraction.h:4: error: cannot find interface declaration for ‘NSObject’, superclass of ‘Fraction’ ubuntu@eeepc:~$ What i need to do?

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  • Does Objective-C have a Standard Library?

    - by Roman A. Taycher
    Most somewhat modern programming languages have a standard library? It is my impression is that there isn't a decent sized standard library for Obj-C , rather that it relies mostly/all on Cocoa and that (plus people not wanting to use GNUstep) is why Obj-C is only used on macs)? Is this true/to what extent? Are there any standard obj-c collections? (note I haven't done any Obj-C programming and am not to likely to try it in the near future, I'm just curious). P.S. are there a any decent non-Cocoa/Gnustep Libraries? are they non-apple, are they open source, well documented?

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  • Is it possible to run a compiled program with Xcode on Mac OS X in FreeBSD? (Objective-C/Cocoa)

    - by Eonil
    Hi. I have a plan to build a web-site which running CGI made with Cocoa. My final goal is develop on Mac OS X, and run on FreeBSD. Is this possible? As I know, there is a free implementation of some NextStep classes, the GNUStep. The web-site is almost built with only strings. I read GNUStep documents, classes are enough. DB connection will be made with C interfaces. Most biggest problem which I'm concerning is linking and binary compatibility. I'm currently configuring FreeBSD on VirtualBox, but I wanna know any possibility informations about this from experts. This is not a production server. Just a trial. Please feel free to saying anything.

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  • Best compiled language for Mac OS X and Linux compatibility

    - by corydoras
    We need to write some software that will compile and run on both an Mac OS X server and Ubuntu. We would love to use Objective-C with all of its Cocoa goodness, however the GNUstep implementations of the parts we are using are broken (in the latest Ubuntu package anyway.) In light of this should we use C++ (I would really rather not), C or something else that we have not thought of? It is a server/back-end process that is very resource intensive, Java and other interpreted versions of this software perform much worse than the Objective-C proof of concept we have written, hence we now wish to re-write in a "compiled[1]" language. (NB: Some people might consider this subjective, however at the end of the day we do need to get a job done, there has to be a reasonably appropriate correct answer here). [1] Compiled to native CPU instructions, not compiled into "byte codes" that then have to be run by an interpreter.

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  • Use Objective-C without NSObject?

    - by Alex I
    I am testing some simple Objective-C code on Windows (cygwin, gcc). This code already works in Xcode on Mac. I would like to convert my objects to not subclass NSObject (or anything else, lol). Is this possible, and how? What I have so far: // MyObject.h @interface MyObject - (void)myMethod:(int) param; @end and // MyObject.m #include "MyObject.h" @interface MyObject() { // this line is a syntax error, why? int _field; } @end @implementation MyObject - (id)init { // what goes in here? return self; } - (void)myMethod:(int) param { _field = param; } @end What happens when I try compiling it: gcc -o test MyObject.m -lobjc MyObject.m:4:1: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘{’ token MyObject.m: In function ‘-[MyObject myMethod:]’: MyObject.m:17:3: error: ‘_field’ undeclared (first use in this function) EDIT My compiler is cygwin's gcc, also has cygwin gcc-objc package: gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.7.3 I have tried looking for this online and in a couple of Objective-C tutorials, but every example of a class I have found inherits from NSObject. Is it really impossible to write Objective-C without Cocoa or some kind of Cocoa replacement that provides NSObject? (Yes, I know about GNUstep. I would really rather avoid that if possible...)

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  • Core-data: when accessing a relationship, the count method on NSSet fails

    - by lordsandwich
    I'm trying to access a relationship (one to many) programatically. My Data model contains an NSManagedEntity called language (with a two string attributes) with a relationship to an entity called WordCategory (one-to-many). I use an NSFetchRequest to get all the Language entities. that works fine. I get the valueForKey for the relationship and that works fine. I can work with its objects. However, when I try to send the message count to the NSSet that stores the WordCategory objects I get a In other words, this line works: NSLog(@"word category count %@",[[wordCategory anyObject] valueForKey:@"name"]); This one doesn't: NSLog(@"word category count %@",[wordCategory count] I get a the message: EXC_BAD_ACCESS in the debugger. Here's the rest of the code: NSManagedObjectContext *moc = [myAppDelegate managedObjectContext]; NSFetchRequest *request = [[NSFetchRequest alloc] init]; [request setEntity:[NSEntityDescription entityForName:@"Language" inManagedObjectContext:moc]]; NSError *error = nil; NSArray *results = [moc executeFetchRequest:request error: &error]; if (error) { [NSApp presentError:error]; return; } NSManagedObject *obj = [results objectAtIndex:0]; NSSet *wordCategory = [obj valueForKey:@"category"]; NSLog(@"word category count %@",[wordCategory count]); I'll appreciate any light than anybody can shed in this mystery. Thanks for your help!

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  • Compiling Objective-C project on Linux (Ubuntu)

    - by Alex
    How to make an Objective-C project work on Ubuntu? My files are: Fraction.h #import <Foundation/NSObject.h> @interface Fraction: NSObject { int numerator; int denominator; } -(void) print; -(void) setNumerator: (int) n; -(void) setDenominator: (int) d; -(int) numerator; -(int) denominator; @end Fraction.m #import "Fraction.h" #import <stdio.h> @implementation Fraction -(void) print { printf( "%i/%i", numerator, denominator ); } -(void) setNumerator: (int) n { numerator = n; } -(void) setDenominator: (int) d { denominator = d; } -(int) denominator { return denominator; } -(int) numerator { return numerator; } @end main.m #import <stdio.h> #import "Fraction.h" int main( int argc, const char *argv[] ) { // create a new instance Fraction *frac = [[Fraction alloc] init]; // set the values [frac setNumerator: 1]; [frac setDenominator: 3]; // print it printf( "The fraction is: " ); [frac print]; printf( "\n" ); // free memory [frac release]; return 0; } I've tried two approaches to compile it: Pure gcc: $ sudo apt-get install gobjc gnustep gnustep-devel $ gcc `gnustep-config --objc-flags` -o main main.m -lobjc -lgnustep-base /tmp/ccIQKhfH.o:(.data.rel+0x0): undefined reference to `__objc_class_name_Fraction' I created a GNUmakefile Makefile: include ${GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES}/common.make TOOL_NAME = main main_OBJC_FILES = main.m include ${GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES}/tool.make ... and ran: $ source /usr/share/GNUstep/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh $ make Making all for tool main... Linking tool main ... ./obj/main.o:(.data.rel+0x0): undefined reference to `__objc_class_name_Fraction' So in both cases compiler gets stuck at undefined reference to `__objc_class_name_Fraction' Do you have and idea how to resolve this issue?

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  • How to build the Darling projrct on Ubuntu 13.10?

    - by mirror27
    The Darling project is an open source Darwin/OS X emulation layer for Linux. I downloaded the source code with git and tried to build it with cmake but it failed. The document says I need these packages: clang 3.1+ GCC 4.6+ (yes, you still need GCC for header files) libkqueue libbsd gnustep-base ("Foundation") gnustep-gui ("Cocoa") gnustep-corebase ("CoreFoundation") libobjc2 libudev openssl libasound libav libgc but I could not find them on apt or in software center. Also cmake showed this result: No build type selected, default to Debug This is a 64-bit build Building ObjC ABI 2 You have called ADD_LIBRARY for library Carbon without any source files. This typically indicates a problem with your CMakeLists.txt file You have called ADD_LIBRARY for library AppKit without any source files. This typically indicates a problem with your CMakeLists.txt file You have called ADD_LIBRARY for library auto without any source files. This typically indicates a problem with your CMakeLists.txt file CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND. Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files: LIBGNUSTEPCOREBASE_INCLUDE_DIR used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/motool used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/util used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libmach-o used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libdyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/dyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/dyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libSystem used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libltdl used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Cocoa used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libobjcdarwin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreFoundation used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libncurses used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreSecurity used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreServices used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/ExceptionHandling used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/IOKit used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Foundation used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Carbon used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreVideo used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/OpenGL used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/thin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/thin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libstdc++darwin LIBKQUEUE_INCLUDE_DIR used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/motool used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/util used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libmach-o used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libdyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/dyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/dyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libSystem used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libltdl used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Cocoa used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libobjcdarwin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreFoundation used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libncurses used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreSecurity used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreServices used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/ExceptionHandling used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/IOKit used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Foundation used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Carbon used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreVideo used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/OpenGL used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/thin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/thin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libstdc++darwin LIBOBJC2_INCLUDE_DIR used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/motool used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/util used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libmach-o used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libdyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/dyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/dyld used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libSystem used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libltdl used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Cocoa used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libobjcdarwin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreFoundation used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libncurses used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreSecurity used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreServices used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/ExceptionHandling used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/IOKit used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Foundation used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/Carbon used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/CoreVideo used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/OpenGL used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/thin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/thin used as include directory in directory /home/mirror/work/darling/darling/src/libstdc++darwin Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! How can I build the Darling project?

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  • CORBA on MacOS X (Cocoa)

    - by user8472
    I am currently looking into different ways to support distributed model objects (i.e., a computational model that runs on several different computers) in a project that initially focuses on MacOS X (using Cocoa). As far as I know there is the possibility to use the class cluster around NSProxy. But there also seem to be implementations of CORBA around with Objective-C support. At a later time there may be the need to also support/include Windows machines. In that case I would need to use something like Gnustep on the Windows side (which may be an option, if it works well) or come up with a combination of both technologies. Or write something manually (which is, of course, the least desirable option). My questions are: If you have experience with both technologies (Cocoa native infrastructure vs. CORBA) can you point out some key features/issues of either approach? Is it possible to use Gnustep with Cocoa in the way explained above? Is it possible (and reasonably feasible, i.e. simpler than writing a network layer manually) to communicate among all MacOS clients using Cocoa's technology and with Windows clients through CORBA?

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  • Very simple, terse and easy GUI programming “frameworks”

    - by jetxee
    Please list GUI programming libraries, toolkits, frameworks which allow to write GUI apps quickly. I mean in such a way, that GUI is described entirely in a human-readable (and human-writable) plain text file (code) code is terse (1 or 2 lines of code per widget/event pair), suitable for scripting structure and operation of the GUI is evident from the code (nesting of widgets and flow of events) details about how to build the GUI are hidden (things like mainloop, attaching event listeners, etc.) auto-layouts are supported (vboxes, hboxes, etc.) As answers suggest, this may be defined as declarative GUI programming, but it is not necessarily such. Any approach is OK if it works, is easy to use and terse. There are some GUI libraries/toolkits like this. They are listed below. Please extend the list if you see a qualifying toolkit missing. Indicate if the project is crossplatform, mature, active, and give an example if possible. Please use this wiki to discuss only Open Source projects. This is the list so far (in alphabetical order): Fudgets Fudgets is a Haskell library. Platform: Unix. Status: Experimental, but still maintained. An example: import Fudgets main = fudlogue (shellF "Hello" (labelF "Hello, world!" >+< quitButtonF)) GNUstep Renaissance Renaissance allows to describe GUI in simple XML. Platforms: OSX/GNUstep. Status: part of GNUstep. An example below: <window title="Example"> <vbox> <label font="big"> Click the button below to quit the application </label> <button title="Quit" action="terminate:"/> </vbox> </window> HTML HTML-based GUI (HTML + JS). Crossplatform, mature. Can be used entirely on the client side. Looking for a nice “helloworld” example. JavaFX JavaFX is usable for standalone (desktop) apps as well as for web applications. Not completely crossplatform, not yet completely open source. Status: 1.0 release. An example: Frame { content: Button { text: "Press Me" action: operation() { System.out.println("You pressed me"); } } visible: true } Screenshot is needed. Phooey Phooey is another Haskell library. Crossplatform (wxWidgets), HTML+JS backend planned. Mature and active. An example (a little more than a helloworld): ui1 :: UI () ui1 = title "Shopping List" $ do a <- title "apples" $ islider (0,10) 3 b <- title "bananas" $ islider (0,10) 7 title "total" $ showDisplay (liftA2 (+) a b) PythonCard PythonCard describes GUI in a Python dictionary. Crossplatform (wxWidgets). Some apps use it, but the project seems stalled. There is an active fork. I skip PythonCard example because it is too verbose for the contest. Shoes Shoes for Ruby. Platforms: Win/OSX/GTK+. Status: Young but active. A minimal app looks like this: Shoes.app { @push = button "Push me" @note = para "Nothing pushed so far" @push.click { @note.replace "Aha! Click!" } } Tcl/Tk Tcl/Tk. Crossplatform (its own widget set). Mature (probably even dated) and active. An example: #!/usr/bin/env wish button .hello -text "Hello, World!" -command { exit } pack .hello tkwait window . tekUI tekUI for Lua (and C). Platforms: X11, DirectFB. Status: Alpha (usable, but API still evolves). An example: #/usr/bin/env lua ui = require "tek.ui" ui.Application:new { Children = { ui.Window:new { Title = "Hello", Children = { ui.Text:new { Text = "_Hello, World!", Style = "button", Mode = "button", }, }, }, }, }:run() Treethon Treethon for Python. It describes GUI in a YAML file (Python in a YAML tree). Platform: GTK+. Status: work in proress. A simple app looks like this: _import: gtk view: gtk.Window() add: - view: gtk.Button('Hello World') on clicked: print view.get_label() Yet unnamed Python library by Richard Jones: This one is not released yet. The idea is to use Python context managers (with keyword) to structure GUI code. See Richard Jones' blog for details. with gui.vertical: text = gui.label('hello!') items = gui.selection(['one', 'two', 'three']) with gui.button('click me!'): def on_click(): text.value = items.value text.foreground = red XUL XUL + Javascript may be used to create stand-alone desktop apps with XULRunner as well as Mozilla extensions. Mature, open source, crossplatform. <?xml version="1.0"?> <?xml-stylesheet href="chrome://global/skin/" type="text/css"?> <window id="main" title="My App" width="300" height="300" xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"> <caption label="Hello World"/> </window> Thank your for contributions!

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  • iPhone dev on Linux

    - by Daziplqa
    Hi guyz, Actually I have read about that I can write Objective-C app on Linux (using GNUStep). But my question is, Am I will be able to develop completely iPhone app on Linux machine? Or I'll need eventually need to use Mac machine? Especially when I read that there are some some syntax diffs between NeXT/Apple and GCC (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C)

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  • Cross-platform desktop programming: C++ vs. Python

    - by John Wells
    Alright, to start off, I have experience as an amateur Obj-C/Cocoa and Ruby w/Rails programmer. These are great, but they aren't really helpful for writing cross-platform applications (hopefully GNUStep will one day be complete enough for the first to be multi platform, but that day is not today). C++, from what I can gather, is extremely powerful but also a huge, ugly behemoth that can take half a decade or more to master. I've also read that you can very easily not only shoot yourself in the foot, but blow your entire leg off with it since memory management is all manual. Obviously, this is all quite intimidating. Is it correct? Python seems to provide most of the power of C++ and is much easier to pick up at the cost of speed. How big is this sacrifice? Is it meaningful or can it be ignored? Which will have me writing fast, stable, highly reliable applications in a reasonable amount of time? Also, is it better to use Qt for your UI or instead maintain separate, native front ends for each platform? EDIT: For extra clarity, there are two types applications I want to write: one is an extremely friendly and convenient database frontend and the other, which no doubt will come much later on, is a 3D world editor.

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