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  • Gruber URL Regex tweak to capture "domain.com"

    - by mootymoots
    I found an updated version of John Gruber's regex for url matching in this post by user GianPac, which states it's been adapted to recognize url without protocol or the www part: (?i)\b((?:[a-z][\w-]+:(?:/{1,3}|[a-z0-9%])|www\d{0,3}[.]|[a-z0-9.-]+[.][a-z]{2,4}/?)(?:[^\s()<]+|(([^\s()<]+|(([^\s()<]+)))))(?:(([^\s()<]+|(([^\s()<]+))))|[^\s`!()[]{};:'\".,<?«»“”‘’])) Whilst this works in most cases, I found it does not match "google.com". It does match "google.comm" and "google.co.uk", so this must be a small oversight. The trouble is, I literally hate regex. It's the bane of my life. I just want to try and tweak this one more time to allow for "google.com" - can anyone throw me a pointer? I (think) it's something to do with this part of the code: +[.][a-z]{2,4}/?) ?

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  • Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit does not detect 4Gb ram

    - by David
    I have recently installed 4Gb of ram for an existing 12.04 32bit Ubuntu. It's not being recognised, only 3.2Gb is showing, See: administrator@Root2:~$ free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 3355256 1251112 2104144 0 48664 391972 -/+ buffers/cache: 810476 2544780 System is PAE capable, See: administrator@Root2:~$ grep --color=always -i PAE /proc/cpuinfo flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dts flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dts The system us fully patched and tried to run manual PAE upgrade, See: administrator@Root2:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae [sudo] password for administrator: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done linux-generic-pae is already the newest version. linux-headers-generic-pae is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: language-pack-zh-hans language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-zh-hans language-pack-kde-en-base kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-zhcn language-pack-zh-hans-base firefox-locale-zh-hans language-pack-kde-zh-hans-base Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. I am not sure what else to try to recognise the full physical memory installed other than loading 64bit. Any thoughts? Thanks! output of uname -r administrator@Root2:~$ uname -r 3.2.0-24-generic-pae

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  • How to resolve the "Failed to download repository" error?

    - by jojo
    I've tried to update but then I got this error Here's the error information in that box: W:GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <[email protected]>, W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/hud/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found, W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/hud/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. And my Internet connection is working fine. After trying $ sudo apt-get install ppa-purge Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done ppa-purge is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: language-pack-zh-hans language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-zh-hans language-pack-kde-en-base kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-zhcn language-pack-zh-hans-base firefox-locale-zh-hans language-pack-kde-zh-hans-base Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. $ sudo ppa-purge ppa:unity-team/hud Updating packages lists W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <[email protected]> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/hud/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/hud/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Warning: apt-get update failed for some reason PPA to be removed: unity-team hud Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: unity-team hud I've tried $ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192 Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.v6Ucus0B10 --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192 gpg: requesting key 3E5C1192 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: key 3E5C1192: "Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <[email protected]>" not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 And then started the same procedure but of no use.

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  • How do I get a Canon MG, MP and MX series USB printer working?

    - by Old-linux-fan
    Printer MP6150 driver installed itself upon plugging in the printer. Printer is recognized (lsusb shows it) but does not mount. If the printer is recognized, the driver must be working (or?), but something is blocking the system from mounting the printer. Tried the usual things: power of printer, restart Ubuntu etc. Listed below result of lsusb and fstab: hans@kontor-linux:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04a9:174a Canon, Inc. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1058:1001 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. External Hard Disk [Elements] Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser hans@kontor-linux:~$ sudo cat /etc/fstab [sudo] password for hans: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=eaf3b38d-1c81-4de9-98d4-3834d674ff6e / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=93a667d3-6132-45b5-ad51-1f8a46c5b437 none swap sw 0 0 Here is what I have tried: Tried the HK link again, but no luck so far. However, I connected the printer wirelessly to router on other xp box. Installing the driver from ppa:michael-gruz/canon doesn't work, but the driver is installed

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  • Canon MG6100 series USB Printer not mounting

    - by user35201
    Printer MP6150 driver installed itself upon plugging in the printer. Printer is recognized (lsusb shows it) but does not mount. If the printer is recognized, the driver must be working (or?), but something is blocking the system from mounting the printer. Tried the usual things: power of printer, restart Ubuntu etc. Listed below result of lsusb and fstab: hans@kontor-linux:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04a9:174a Canon, Inc. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1058:1001 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. External Hard Disk [Elements] Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser hans@kontor-linux:~$ sudo cat /etc/fstab [sudo] password for hans: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=eaf3b38d-1c81-4de9-98d4-3834d674ff6e / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=93a667d3-6132-45b5-ad51-1f8a46c5b437 none swap sw 0 0

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  • Canon MG6100 series USB printer receives job but doesn't physically print

    - by Old-linux-fan
    Printer MP6150 driver installed itself upon plugging in the printer. Printer is recognized (lsusb shows it) but does not mount. If the printer is recognized, the driver must be working (or?), but something is blocking the system from mounting the printer. Tried the usual things: power of printer, restart Ubuntu etc. Listed below result of lsusb and fstab: hans@kontor-linux:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04a9:174a Canon, Inc. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1058:1001 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. External Hard Disk [Elements] Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser hans@kontor-linux:~$ sudo cat /etc/fstab [sudo] password for hans: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=eaf3b38d-1c81-4de9-98d4-3834d674ff6e / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=93a667d3-6132-45b5-ad51-1f8a46c5b437 none swap sw 0 0

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  • How do I install Sublime Text 2?

    - by Michael Gruber
    I installed Sublime Text 2 on 12.04 as per this tutorial. However I don't have adequate permissions when launching the program from the Unity launcher. For example I cannot install packages, or if I add a folder to the sidebar when I close Sublime and reopen, the folder is no longer listed. If I run sudo sublime in the terminal all changes remain after closing. I've tried chown-ing the Sublime Text 2 folder in usr/lib sudo chown -R mylogin:mylogin /usr/lib/"Sublime Text 2" but this seemed to have no effect.

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  • What types of programming require practical category theory?

    - by Alexander Gruber
    Category theory has applications in theoretical computer science and obviously is central to abstract mathematics. I have heard that it also has direct practical applications in programming and software development. What type of programming is practical category theory necessary for? What do programmers use category theory to accomplish? Please note my use of "necessary" and "require" in this post. I realize that in some sense most programmers will benefit from having experience in different types of theories, but I am looking for direct applications where the usage of category theory is essential, i.e. if you didn't know category theory, you probably couldn't do it. Also, I'd like to clarify that by "what type of programming," I am hoping less for a broad answer like "functional programming," and more for specific applications like "writing bank software" or "making operating systems."

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  • Understanding how to inject object dependencies

    - by Hans
    I have an object that loads an instance of another object in a method. $survey = new survey; $question = new question($survey); $question-load($question_id); class question { public function __construct(&$survey) { $this-survey = $survey; } public function load ($id) { // now a question is loaded // want to load the survey that this question is in $this->survey->load($this->get('survey_id')); // ** survey_id is a field in the questions table // now $this->survey object has all the info about the survey this question is in } private function get($name) { // returns $name, if isset() from array that load() sets } } This is frying my brain, though, because it seems like $survey should come into $response already being a complete object. But, how do I do that, if I don't know what survey_id to load until I'm in the object? I am revamping a site and the most complex part is littered with this issue. TIA - Hans.

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  • AIA - Server Topologien und Deployment

    - by Hans Viehmann
    Es gibt ein neues White Paper, in dem die verschiedenen Varianten von AIA Topologien ausführlich beschrieben sind. Die unterschiedlichen Möglichkeiten ergeben sich vor allem aus dem Betrieb mehrerer AIA Instanzen parallel (z.B. Aufteilung in Dev/Test/Prod, Aufteilung zur Lastverteilung, Zuordnung zu unterschiedlichen Geografien, ...). Weitere Variationsmöglichkeiten bietet die Verteilung der unterschiedlichen Bestandteile des DB-Schemas (AIA Metadaten, Cross-Referencing Daten, AIA Lifecycle Repository, JMS Schema, etc.). Und schließlich können auch verschiedene Topologien der SOA Laufzeitumgebung, wie beispielsweise SOA Cluster, unterstützt werden. Diese Varianten mit ihren typischen Einsatzfeldern werden in dem Dokument ebenso beschrieben, wie deren Umsetzung mit Hilfe des Installers.In einem zweiten Teil befasst sich das White Paper mit dem Deployment der AIA Artefakte in diese Topologien, und zwar insbesondere mit dem Tool-Support durch die "Project Lifecycle Workbench" und dem "AIA Installation Driver". Erstere ist eine neue Komponente in AIA 11gR1, die in der Lage ist, am Ende des Entwicklungszyklus Deployment Pläne zu generieren, während der ebenfalls neue "AIA Installation Driver" dann die Artefakte dann in die Zielumgebung überträgt.Das White Paper ist noch nicht auf oracle.com verfügbar und ist leider so umfangreich, dass es nicht auf auf blogs.oracle.com hochgeladen werden kann. Bei Interesse verschicke ich es aber gern per Mail.

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  • Vermeidung von SOA Anti-Patterns mittels AIA

    - by Hans Viehmann
    Gerade ist mir ein White Paper des Enterprise Architecture Teams in die Hände gefallen, das sich mit SOA Anti-Patterns befasst. Es ist zwar kein AIA Paper im eigentlichen Sinne, aber mit AIA hat man natürlich eine gute Unterstützung darin, die dort beschriebenen Fehler zu vermeiden. Das White Paper behandelt Themen wie: Vermeidung von SOA Silos SOA Reifegrad und Projekt-Management Ausuferndes Service Portfolio Umgang mit Referenz-Architekturen EAI 2.0 - Punkt-zu-Punkt Integration auf offenen Standards Ein Link auf das Dokument ist unten angefügt - viel Vergnügen bei der Lektüre ... Oracle White Paper: SOA Anti-Patterns.

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  • AIA und die "IT Strategies from Oracle"

    - by Hans Viehmann
    Die Oracle Application Integration Architecture lässt sich gut nutzen, um eine SOA Initiative zügig zu starten. Naturgemäß berücksichtigt sie aber nicht alle Aspekte einer IT Strategie. Zu diesem Thema gibt es nun seit einigen Wochen eine umfassende Bibliothek von Handbüchern ("Practitioner's Guides") und Referenz-Architekturen, in denen die Erfahrung aus zahlreichen Projekten zusammengefasst ist.Hier ist beispielsweise ein IT Governance Framework beschrieben, das auch die wesentlichen Aspekte der SOA GovernanceSOA Portfolio GovernanceService Lifecycle GovernanceSOA Solution Lifecycle GovernanceSOA Vitality GovernanceSOA Organization Governancenäher beschreibt.In den Handbüchern sind zahlreiche wertvolle Hinweise und best practices enthalten; ich denke, es lohnt sich, einen Blick hinein zu werfen.Die gesamte Bibliothek findet sich unter http://www.oracle.com/goto/itstrategies; eine Übersicht über die verschiedenen Aspekte ist in dem Bild unten zusammengefasst.View image

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  • AIA Artefakte im Oracle Enterprise Repository

    - by Hans Viehmann
    Das Oracle Enterprise Repository (OER) ist die zentrale Stelle zur Verwaltung von SOA Artefakten aller Art, mit dem Ziel, den gesamten Lebenszyklus dieser Artefakte zu begleiten. Es ist wesentliche Grundlage für deren Wiederverwendung, für die Ermittlung von Abhängigkeiten, wie auch für die Bestimmung des Wertes dieser Artefakte, was wiederum für den Nutzen der SOA Implementierung von Bedeutung ist. In AIA 11g wird die aktuelle Version des OER unterstützt und wird zusätzlich ergänzt durch die Project Lifecycle Workbench, in der die funktionale Spezifikation, die Aufteilung der Prozesse, oder beispielsweise die Generierung des Deployment Plans erfolgt.Für die Bereitstellung der Artefakte des Foundation Pack 11g gibt es inzwischen ein zugehöriges AIA Solution Pack für OER, mit dem die entsprechenden Strukturen, sowie die Bestandteile des Foundation Packs 11g, also EBOs, EBMs, EBSs, usw. unabhängig von einer AIA Installation direkt importiert werden können. Das Pack steht auch auf support.oracle.com bereit und kann hier heruntergeladen werden.

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  • Toshiba Satellite C850, Wlan, rtl8188ce not working

    - by Hans
    I installed Ubunto 12.04 onto a brand new Toshiba Satellite C850 64 bit laptop. Wlan does not work, Tries to connect, gives up after some time. $Windows7 works 100%. There appears to be a problem with the driver. The actual hardware is a rtl8188ce chip. The firmware & driver loaded by Ubunto is for the rtl8192ce chip. How can I get and install a driver and firmware for Ubunto 12.04 and rtl8188ce?

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  • AIA Release 3.1 verfügbar

    - by Hans Viehmann
    Nachdem das Foundation Pack 11g inzwischen eine Weile auf dem Markt ist, wurden jetzt auch die darauf aufsetzenden Process Integration Packs (PIPs) freigegeben. In diesem Zuge wurden neben den bestehenden 16 PIPs auch drei neue Integrationen vorgestellt:Oracle Design-to-Release Integration Pack for Agile Product Lifecycle Management for Process and Oracle Process ManufacturingOracle Clinical Trial Payments Integration Pack for Siebel ClinicalOracle Serialization and Tracking Integration Pack for Oracle Pedigree and Serialization Manager and Oracle E-Business SuiteLetztere sind speziell für den Healthcare/Life Sciences Markt gedacht.Zur Freigabe gibt es nicht nur eine entsprechende Pressemeldung (hier), sondern auch einen öffentlichen Launch-Webcast am 23. Februar unter dem Titel "Tackling the Challenges of Application Integration". Leider ist er mehr für amerikanische Zuhörer gedacht und findet um 10:00h PDT statt. Wer aber sein abendliches Fernsehprogramm eintauschen möchte, findet hier die nötigen Details und die Möglichkeit zur Registrierung.

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  • AIA Foundation Pack 11gR1 verfügbar!

    - by Hans Viehmann
    Nach der Ankündigung des AIA Foundation Pack 11gR1 am Rande der "Collaborate 2010" in Las Vegas (s. Press Release hier), steht jetzt auch die Software auf edelivery.oracle.com zum Download bereit.In der Pressemeldung sind neben einer Zusammenfasssung der neuen Funktionalitäten auch eine Reihe von Links auf aktuelle Infos enthalten - es lohnt sich also, einen Blick darauf zu werfen ...

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  • Totem streams only certain video from iphone

    - by Hans Schmidt
    I recently installed a plug-in for Totem movie player. This allows the app to receive and play AirPlay-streamed video from iphone to totem player: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/airplay-video-playback-comes-to-totem Actually this works fine with youtube videos. But when it comes to other apps in iPhone (such as Digital TV App) the streaming does not work. In the app I can choose Totem Player, but Totem Player itself stays empty, i.e. nothing will be streamed. As mentioned choosing Totem Player for youtube video works fine. Do you guys have any idea what makes the difference that it works only for youtube?

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  • Folder missing in external hard drive

    - by Hans
    I have been backing up my folders, I am using Seagate Expansion portable Drive. I had created a folder called "|o|o" in the root folder of the portable drive... I copied my latest folders into "|o|o" folder to re-install ubuntu. When I open the portable drive the folder |o|o is not visible, when I ctrl+a and check properties the space used is 122GB, however when I click on the drive to view properties of the drive used space is 260GB. It looks as if the folder is there in the portable drive but I cannot access it... I have tried to view all the hidden files and "|o|o" is still not there. I am using 12.04.Can you please help me to retrieve this folder.

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  • ubuntu 10.10: Totem streams only certain video from iphone

    - by Hans Schmidt
    I recently installed a plug-in for Totem movie player. This allows the app to receive and play AirPlay-streamed video from iphone to totem player: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/airplay-video-playback-comes-to-totem Actually this works fine with youtube videos. But when it comes to other apps in iPhone (such as Digital TV App) the streaming does not work. In the app I can choose Totem Player, but Totem Player itself stays empty, i.e. nothing will be streamed. As mentioned choosing Totem Player for youtube video works fine. Do you guys have any idea what makes the difference that it works only for youtube?

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  • OpenGL Shading Program Object Memory Requirement

    - by Hans Wurst
    gDEbugger states that OpenGL's program objects only occupy an insignificant amount of memory. How much is this actually? I don't know if the stuff I looked up in mesa is actually that I was looking for but it requires 16KB [Edit: false, confusing struct names, less than 1KB immediate, some further behind pointers] per program object. Not quite insignificant. So is it recommended to create a unique program object for each object of the scene? Or to share a single program object and set the scene's object's custom variables just before its draw call?

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  • programm and user data from an old hdd to a new installation on ssd

    - by hans wurst
    i tried everything since days, now i ask. i got a ubuntu system on my old hdd, wich is connectet via usb to this system and a sdd is build in my notebook. at the moment i am running a ubuntusystem from an usb stick. it have tried to clone my disk(cahnge uiid, etc), to transport the data via deja dup and much more. the result was nothing or strange things. my idea is to copy the important data form the old system to the new(home and whatever), but it is not allowed to do this. somebody her who know a tool wich can do this, or got an an other idea.

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  • What makes for the ideal project? [closed]

    - by Hans Westerbeek
    I try to be careful when accepting assignments, to avoid mutual disappointment. So, I started to come up with a list of things that I consider ingredients for The Ideal Project: (in no particular order) What did I miss? What did I get wrong? Team size < 6 persons to avoid having too many meetings Team members must be dedicated to the project Gut-feeling-estimate (made by developers) of running period does not exceed 4 months. Projects longer than that tend to become open-ended, and are therefore not projects. Has a Product Owner who has mandate and is well-respected at their own company and who has a real interest in the long-term success of the project. Has no technical involvement from people that are not on the team. (yes that's you, Mr Architect That Doesn't Code) All the usual about quiet working conditions Exciting subject matter. Content management is just not as cool as controlling robots :)

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  • Understanding OOP Principles in passing around objects/values

    - by Hans
    I'm not quite grokking a couple of things in OOP and I'm going to use a fictional understanding of SO to see if I can get help understand. So, on this page we have a question. You can comment on the question. There are also answers. You can comment on the answers. Question - comment - comment - comment Answer -comment Answer -comment -comment -comment Answer -comment -comment So, I'm imagining a very high level understanding of this type of system (in PHP, not .Net as I am not yet familiar with .Net) would be like: $question = new Question; $question->load($this_question_id); // from the URL probably echo $question->getTitle(); To load the answers, I imagine it's something like this ("A"): $answers = new Answers; $answers->loadFromQuestion($question->getID()); // or $answers->loadFromQuestion($this_question_id); while($answer = $answers->getAnswer()) { echo $answer->showFormatted(); } Or, would you do ("B"): $answers->setQuestion($question); // inject the whole obj, so we have access to all the data and public methods in $question $answers->loadFromQuestion(); // the ID would be found via $this->question->getID() instead of from the argument passed in while($answer = $answers->getAnswer()) { echo $answer->showFormatted(); } I guess my problem is, I don't know when or if I should be passing in an entire object, and when I should just be passing in a value. Passing in the entire object gives me a lot of flexibility, but it's more memory and subject to change, I'd guess (like a property or method rename). If "A" style is better, why not just use a function? OOP seems pointless here. Thanks, Hans

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