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  • ntbackup with two backup plans?

    - by feklee
    Is it possible to use ntbackup.exe (Windows XP SP3, 32) with two incremental backup plans? An example: "My Documents": every day, incrementally to D:\My_Documents.bkf Drive C: every month, incrementally to D:\All.bkf As far as I understand it, ntbackup.exe marks files as having been backed up in the file system. Thus, two incremental backup plans would interfere in a bad way. So, I assume that the answer to my question is: No But maybe I'm wrong...

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  • Backup data to remote dedicated server

    - by Alex Bagnolini
    My company already has a "local" backup strategy, but is willing to also backup data on our remote dedicated server as an additional "plus". Some info: Both machines are Windows Server (client is 2003, server is 2008) Administrator rights on both machines Valid SSL Certificate available FTP/IIS Server available and in use Required cryptation during transfer & storage Free space is not a problem Which software (both client and server side) you advice us to take?

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  • rsnapshot backup TO remote server

    - by Zulakis
    I just bought 100GB of "Cloud"-Space at Strato's HiDrive for remote server backups. They offer the following services: sftp,webdav,smb/cifs,rsync,scp Now i want to do a remote backup to my Backup-Space using rsnapshot. All the examples I found were only for backing up FROM remote servers to local machine, but not for backing up TO remote servers. How can I do incremental backups using rsnapshot using one of the protocols above?

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  • flat-rate backup service for Windows Server

    - by Colin Pickard
    Hi, Does anyone know if there is a decent flat-rate backup service which supports Windows Server? I've investigated the following: Backblaze - no WS support, sales say they have a "no server" policy JungleDisk - not flat rate Mozy - no WS on regular edition, no flat-rate on Pro edition Dropbox - no flat rate Carbonite - technically flat rate, but throttles uploads to modem speeds EDIT: Very similar question: Is there a decent flat-rate online backup solution for Linux machines?

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  • Backup Software that Prompts when Changes are made

    - by Noah
    Here is what I want to do. Hit backup and backup all my files to a jump drive. Take files on the road with me and edit them on the jumpdrive with my netbook. Come back to my computer and hit restore and have the files uploaded back to my computer, but I want to be prompted what files have changed and if I want to replace or keep the old file. Thanks in advance!

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  • How can I set up a dual-site Storage Daemon in Bacula (mirror the backup)

    - by Andy
    On site A, I have sucessfully set up a bacula director on one host, several File Daemons on the hosts I want to backup, and finally one Storage Daemon where the backup actually is stored. If disaster struck the building Site A, I want a second Storage Daemon on another site, Site B. The Filesets, Director etc would be the same, except the jobs will be stored on the other Storage Daemon as well. Are there any best practises on this?

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  • Automatic backup software?

    - by Mehrdad
    Every backup software I've seen (even the ones that claim "continuous" protection) only backs up files periodically -- say, every 5 minutes. What I'm looking for is true continuous backup software, i.e. software that can transparently back up files immediately before they are written to, so that I can be certain I have all the versions of a file that ever existed. Is there any software that does this?

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  • SBS 2008 Script to connect - disconnect backup disk?

    - by Ed Fries
    I want to be able to leave multiple external drives connected to an SBS 2008 server and select which drive is used as a target for the backup without physically connecting/disconnecting the drive. Windows doesn't support this and my testing confirms that if 2 drives are connected there is little to no rotation between the target drives, the backup will run to the last drive it used if it is connected. Anyone have a script that will disconnect and reconnect a physical drive? Thanks!

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  • Building a backup server

    - by user8181
    One of my older motherboards broke and I'm planning to use the remaining power supply, hard drive and case to build a backup server. I want to buy a new motherboard and CPU that can be used 24x7 and wont break down in a few months. So the question is, do you have any recommendations on any reliable motherboards and CPU for a backup server? Processing power is not a huge issue.

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  • Use Dropbox as Offsite Enterprise Backup

    - by chris
    For my small company, I'm using Tomahawk Backup as the enterprise offshore solution, as it covers files, databases and Exchange (brick level). The problem is the price... it costs more than 10x the price of Dropbox (and others) for the same space (120GB), and doesn't have de-duplication. So I'm wondering: assuming there is no problem with backing up files only (ie copying the exchange store file and the db files to the Dropbox folder), would Dropbox be suitable as the offsite backup solution? Thanks

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  • SQL Server Backup File Significantly Smaller After Table Recreation

    - by userx
    We run automated weekly backups of our SQL Server. The database in question is configured for Simple Recovery. We backup using Full, not differential. Recently, we had to re-create one of our tables with data in it (making 2 varchar fields a couple characters longer). This required running a script which created a new table, copied the data over, and then dropped the old. This worked correctly. Oddly though, our weekly backup files now SHRANK by over 75%! The tables don't have large indexes. All data was copied over correctly (and verified). I've verified that we are doing full and not incremental backups. The new files restore just fine. I can't seem to figure out why the backup files would have shrank so much? I've also noticed that they get about 10 MB larger every week, even though less than that amount of data is being added. I'm guessing that I'm simply not understanding something. Any insight would be appreciated.

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  • Windows 7 home backup solution, with offsite provision

    - by Richard E
    I am looking for a home backup solution for my single Windows 7 (Home Premium) PC. I have about 500GB of data to backup. I would like to spend less than GBP 300 on the solution. I don't see the need to backup the whole PC, rather specific folder branches (iTunes, photos, documents, Outlook files, user folders such as desktop, favorites etc). I would like a solution that enables me to maintain backups in two separate physical locations (e.g. home and work). To facilitate this I am imagining a storage unit with slots for two removable drives, along with three separate drives. At any one time two of the drives will be being backed up to in the storage unit. The third will be located at my work. Periodically I will take one of the drives into work and leave it there, then bring the drive that was there back home, and plug it into the storage unit. It will then be backed up along with the other drive that was left in the storage unit. This approach should cover scenarios such as virus attack and fire or theft from one location. Thoughts and comments on the sanity of this approach please...

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  • Windows 7 home backup solution, with offsite provision

    - by Richard E
    I am looking for a home backup solution for my single Windows 7 (Home Premium) PC. I have about 500GB of data to backup. I would like to spend less than GBP 300 on the solution. I don't see the need to backup the whole PC, rather specific folder branches (iTunes, photos, documents, Outlook files, user folders such as desktop, favorites etc). I would like a solution that enables me to maintain backups in two separate physical locations (e.g. home and work). To facilitate this I am imagining a storage unit with slots for two removable drives, along with three separate drives. At any one time two of the drives will be being backed up to in the storage unit. The third will be located at my work. Periodically I will take one of the drives into work and leave it there, then bring the drive that was there back home, and plug it into the storage unit. It will then be backed up along with the other drive that was left in the storage unit. This approach should cover scenarios such as virus attack and fire or theft from one location. Thoughts and comments on the sanity of this approach please...

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  • New hard drive for backup? [closed]

    - by glaeven
    I have come to realize that I need another external drive to use with my MacBook Pro. I currently have a 1TB WD MyBook Essential that I have been using for about a year and a half. I have it currently partitioned into two drives, one for backup (I named it Leonov) and one for movies, TV shows and other large files I don't need very often (I call that side Discovery One). I use Time Machine for backups since it is completely automated and I can restore from it without much trouble (I have had to at least three times now). As of now, Leonov is full enough that every backup deletes an old one and Discovery One is approaching it's limits. I would like to get a new drive and move one of the sides to it. What are some reliable, external (~1TB) drives for under or around $100? Would it be easier to move the movies (et al.) or the backups to the new drive? I also feel like I should say that all of my important documents (for school and the like, just not my music) are also synced to Dropbox as another form of backup and access.

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  • SQL Server Backup modes, and a huge log file

    - by Matt Dawdy
    Okay, I'm not a server administrator, a network guy, or a DBA. I'm merely a programmer helping out a small company. They have IT guy who isn't MS centric (most stuff is on Mac) and he and I are trying to figure out a solution here. We've got 1 main database. We run nightly full backups. I know they are full backups because I can take the latest file, or any of the daily backups, and go to a completely new machine and "restore" the backup to an empty database and our app runs perfectly fine off of this backup. The backups have grown from 60 MB to 250MB over 4 months. When running, then log file is 1.7 GB, and the data file is only 200-300 MB. Yes, recovery model is set to full. So, my question, after all of that, if we are keeping daily backups, and we don't have the need / aren't smart enough to roll the DB back to a certain time, if I change the recovery mode to simple, am I really losing anything? And, if I do change it to simple, will it completely dump the log file or at least reduce it way the hell down? And, will that make our database run faster? I know that it'll make my life easier when I copy a relatively recent backup to my local machine to do development and testing...

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  • Backup Exec 10 - Network connection to the remote agent has been lost

    - by jherlitz
    Okay, so I have 4 remote offices, all running off of a 3mb ethernet connection. Two sites are part of a WAN and 2 sites are using 3mb connections over a site to site tunnel. I am using Backup Exec 2010, I have the remote agent installed on all the remote servers. For the past few weeks now, on the two sites running over the site to site tunnel have been failing with the following error message now. "The network connection to the Backup Exec Remote Agent has been lost. Check for network errors" We used to be on a DSL connection site to site tunnel, now we changed to the 3mb ethernet connection using site to site tunnel. I have to find out, has it been failing ever since we changed, or just recently. Backup exec support is telling me it is a network issue. My communication or connection to the server is solid, we don't have any issues, or outages. So I am baffled on why this continues to fail. And why just those two sites.. Any advice?

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  • Sync, share and backup policy using NAS

    - by Cue
    Trying to come up with a way to keep in sync while sharing and keeping a backup of my music/photos and movies. Currently I have an iMac in Greece and a MBP with me in the UK. As a result I've ended up with 2 iPhoto and iTunes libraries not to mention Documents scattered here and there, user settings etc. I also like to have a backup in case of a drive failure or the need to clean install. It seems that iPhoto and iTunes don't work really well with networked libraries. The way I think about it is to have a NAS where I keep my iTunes and iPhoto library but also rsync daily to my MBP to have a local copy. That way my files are shared across the network as well as act like a backup. In addition I get to have my files wherever I take my MBP but also have the ability to clean install. The tricky part comes from keeping in sync the iMac which is miles away. Again I'm considering a mirror setup (NAS, rsync to the iMac) as well as an rsync between the two NAS. It pretty much resembles the way Dropbox works, sans the requirement to go through their servers but I'm no "superuser" and don't really know if it is even feasible to have such a setup. Looks like there are so many things that can go wrong.

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  • Help with Backup Scheme for B.E 12.5

    - by Jemartin
    I'm in process of implementing a new backup scheme. I would say that I'm kind of new to it. So here my question. I'm currently using Backup Exec 12.5 on Windows Server 2008 w/Hyper-V, and IBM Adic Scalar 24. I currently backup our mail server, SQL DB, Board Server Linux Red Hat, Ftp, etc. To a Near-line which is local on our SAN I have the daily's go there as well as full. I would like to start weekly full to tape on a Saturday it takes about 2-3 days to complete the entire full to tape due to backing up from our Co-Lo as well. I have read up on the Father/son rotation but here's my issue with that I dont use tapes everyday only on the weekly full to tape will I be using them. So if there is 4 weeks in a month would I rotate in this order ( Month June WK1 =7tapes , June WK2=7 tapes, June WK3=7tapes June Wk4=7tapes with WK4 being the last tape for the month of June I would use that as a Month tape. For the month of July Wk1= June's WK1 tapes, July WK2= June's WK2 tapes July WK4 = Junes Wk4 tape for a month or would I use a set of new tapes for the last week in July. All tapes are being taking off site as well.

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  • Backing up server and multiple clients

    - by inquam
    I'm running a Amahi server. It's basically a Fedora14 x64 installation. I'm looking for a good solution to backup my 200GB system drive on the server to an external USB/eSATA drive every night. I looked into using dd but since other things might be running on the server at the same time it didn't feel quite safe. I would like the backups to be incremental so the following backups after the initial one would be quite fast. The backup should also be bootable or prehaps be able to produce a bootable disk after booting from a CD or something. I would also like the server to be able to do similar backups of my clients running Ubuntu, Windows 7 x64, Windows 7 Starter, OSX Lion, Windows XP and so on. So no applications backing up only shared folders or something like that. My guess is a client daemon would have to exist that would lock the system to allow backup of a Windows system drive that can otherwise be quite cranky. Booting up a CD in a crashed client and connecting to the server restoring the latest backup and being up running is my ideal goal. Is there anything out there that would fit these needs?

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  • Maintenance window and recovery for a large database

    - by NYSystemsAnalyst
    One of our teams is developing a database that will be somewhat large (~500GB) and grow from there (I know 500 Gigs may seem small to many of you, but it will be one of the larger databases in our shop). One of the issues they are grappling with is backing up and restoring the database. Basically, the database will have several "data" tables and one table used for storing images / documents. We need to accomplish the following: Be able to quickly backup and restore only the data tables (sans images) to our test server for debugging and testing purposes. In the event of a catastrophic database failure, restore the data tables only to get most of the application up and running ASAP. Then, restore the images table when possible. Backup the database within the allotted nightly time window (a few hours). My questions are: Is it possible to accomplish the first two goals while still having the images stored in the same database? If so, would we use filegroups, filestream, or something else? How do other shops backup their databases in a reasonable time window while maintaining high availability? Do you replicate to a second server and backup from there?

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  • [rails] user's account backup and restore

    - by Cédric
    Hi everyone, I am currently working on a project and i would like my users to be able to backup/restore theirs accounts. I am looking for a rails plugin/gem that would easily do that, ie : current_user.backup() = backup_file current_user.restore(backup_file) = database import/replace I don't know if my question is very clear, but i would like to backup every user's related object (posts, comments, etc) and to be able to restore them from a backup file. Thanks per advance, Cédric.

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  • Windows data backups with alternating removable drives?

    - by luke
    0 vote down star I have a removable disk drive (RD1000 from Dell), and I am looking for backup software that will allow me to backup every night, and every morning switch to the alternate disk. There is only one directory structure to back up, what I want is two copies, one which I will take home with me every night, one which will be backing up every night, and when I get in in the morning, I will switch them. So for instance I have disk "a" and disk "b". On Monday night I want to go home with disk "a" and leave disk "b" in the drive, so that a scheduled back up will be written to it. On Tuesday morning I will come in and swap disks, and I will take "b" home that night, leaving "a" for the backup. And so on for the remainder of the week. FOSS software preferred, Freeware acceptable, paid software as a last-ditch effort. Oh, btw I'm stuck with Windows 2000 Thanks in advance.

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  • Optimistic non-locking copy of InnoDB .frm files

    - by jothir
    MySQL Enterprise Backup(MEB) does hot backup of innodb data and log files. Till MEB 3.6.1, the user backs up the only innodb tables in a 3 step process: STEP 1. Take backup using --only-innodb option STEP 2. Temporarily make the table read only by executing “FLUSH TABLES WITH READ LOCK” MEB 3.7.0 has an enhancement to innodb file copying. The .frm files gets copied along with the hot backup done for innodb files. I would like to make the blog a little interactive by explaining the feature as answers: 1. What are these .frm files? The files containing the metadata, such as the table definition, of a MySQL table. For backups, the full set of .frm files are always required along with the backup data, to be able to restore tables that are altered or dropped after the backup. 2. Can the .frm files not be copied by MEB itself? --only-innodb-with-frm is the new option introduced in MEB 3.7.1 to do a copy of .frm files without locking the tables during backup operation itself. This is to reduce the pain of manually copying the .frm files. The option is intended for backups where you can ensure that no ALTER TABLE, CREATE TABLE, DROP TABLE, or other DDL statements modify the .frm files for InnoDB tables during the backup operation. 3. How is data consistency ensured? MEB does validation of the .frm files after copying by comparing with the server directory to see if the timestamps of any of the .frm files is greater than the saved system time (check .frm time).  This change in timestamp of the .frm files will show if a table is altered during the process of backup. The total number of frm files in the server directory is also verified against the copied contents. If the number of .frm files is less compared to server directory, it shows that table/tables have been dropped during the process of backup. If the number of .frm files is more compared to server directory, it shows that new table/tables have been created during backup operation. 4. How does MEB handle data inconsistency? MEB copies the .frm files through several iterations,  does the validation and throws a WARNING if there is any inconsistency found in .frm files at the end of backup operation. This means the user is warned of some DDL operations that had occurred during backup operation, and has to manually copy the .frm files or do a backup again. 5. What is the option and explain its usage? The option introduced is --only-innodb-with-frm which does optimistic copy of .frm files without locking. This can be used when the user wants to backup only innodb tables along with .frm files. The option can take one of the 2 values: all | related. --only-innodb-with-frm=all does copy of all .frm files of all innodb tables. --only-innodb-with-frm=related works in conjunction with --include option.This is to allow partial backup of .frm files corresponding to the tables specified in --include. Let me show the usage with example output: ./mysqlbackup -uroot --backup-dir=/logs/backupWithFrmAll --only-innodb-with-frm=all backup MySQL Enterprise Backup version 3.7.1 [2012/06/05] Copyright (c) 2003, 2012, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All Rights Reserved. INFO: Starting with following command line ... ./mysqlbackup -uroot --backup-dir=/logs/backupWithFrmAll        --only-innodb-with-frm=all backup INFO: Got some server configuration information from running server. IMPORTANT: Please check that mysqlbackup run completes successfully.            At the end of a successful 'backup' run mysqlbackup            prints "mysqlbackup completed OK!". --------------------------------------------------------------------                       Server Repository Options: --------------------------------------------------------------------  datadir                          =  /mysql/trydb/  innodb_data_home_dir             =    innodb_data_file_path            =  ibdata1:10M:autoextend  innodb_log_group_home_dir        =  /mysql/trydb/  innodb_log_files_in_group        =  2  innodb_log_file_size             =  5242880 --------------------------------------------------------------------                       Backup Config Options: --------------------------------------------------------------------  datadir                          =  /logs/backupWithFrmAll/datadir  innodb_data_home_dir             =  /logs/backupWithFrmAll/datadir  innodb_data_file_path            =  ibdata1:10M:autoextend  innodb_log_group_home_dir        =  /logs/backupWithFrmAll/datadir  innodb_log_files_in_group        =  2  innodb_log_file_size             =  5242880 mysqlbackup: INFO: Unique generated backup id for this is 13451979804504860 mysqlbackup: INFO: Uses posix_fadvise() for performance optimization. mysqlbackup: INFO: System tablespace file format is Antelope. mysqlbackup: INFO: Found checkpoint at lsn 1656792. mysqlbackup: INFO: Starting log scan from lsn 1656320. 120817 15:36:22 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying log... 120817 15:36:22 mysqlbackup: INFO: Log copied, lsn 1656792.          We wait 1 second before starting copying the data files... 120817 15:36:23 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying /mysql/trydb/ibdata1 (Antelope file format). 120817 15:36:23 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying /mysql/trydb/innodb1/table2.ibd (Antelope file format). 120817 15:36:23 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying /mysql/trydb/innodb1/table3.ibd (Antelope file format). 120817 15:36:23 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying /mysql/trydb/innodb1/table1.ibd (Antelope file format). mysqlbackup: INFO: Opening backup source directory '/mysql/trydb/' 120817 15:36:23 mysqlbackup: INFO: Starting to backup .frm files in the subdirectories of /mysql/trydb/ mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying innodb data and logs during final stage ... mysqlbackup: INFO: A copied database page was modified at 1656792.          (This is the highest lsn found on page)          Scanned log up to lsn 1656792.          Was able to parse the log up to lsn 1656792.          Maximum page number for a log record 0 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying non-innodb files took 2.000 seconds 120817 15:36:25 mysqlbackup: INFO: Full backup completed! mysqlbackup: INFO: Backup created in directory '/logs/backupWithFrmAll' -------------------------------------------------------------   Parameters Summary          -------------------------------------------------------------   Start LSN                  : 1656320   End LSN                    : 1656792 ------------------------------------------------------------- mysqlbackup completed OK! bash$ ls /logs/backupWithFrmAll/datadir/innodb1/ table1.frm  table1.ibd  table2.frm  table2.ibd  table3.frm  table3.ibd Here the backup directory contains all the .frm files of all the innodb tables. ./mysqlbackup -uroot --backup-dir=/logs/backupWithFrm --include="innodb1.table3.*" --only-innodb-with-frm=related backup MySQL Enterprise Backup version 3.7.1 [2012/06/05] Copyright (c) 2003, 2012, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All Rights Reserved. INFO: Starting with following command line ... ./mysqlbackup -uroot --backup-dir=/logs/backup371frm        --include=innodb1.table3.* --only-innodb-with-frm=related backup INFO: Got some server configuration information from running server. IMPORTANT: Please check that mysqlbackup run completes successfully.            At the end of a successful 'backup' run mysqlbackup            prints "mysqlbackup completed OK!". --------------------------------------------------------------------                       Server Repository Options: --------------------------------------------------------------------  datadir                          = /mysql/trydb/  innodb_data_home_dir             =    innodb_data_file_path            =  ibdata1:10M:autoextend  innodb_log_group_home_dir        =  /mysql/trydb  innodb_log_files_in_group        =  2  innodb_log_file_size             =  5242880 --------------------------------------------------------------------                       Backup Config Options: --------------------------------------------------------------------  datadir                          =  /logs/backupWithFrm/datadir  innodb_data_home_dir             =  /logs/backupWithFrm/datadir  innodb_data_file_path            =  ibdata1:10M:autoextend  innodb_log_group_home_dir        =  /logs/backupWithFrm/datadir  innodb_log_files_in_group        =  2  innodb_log_file_size             =  5242880 mysqlbackup: INFO: Unique generated backup id for this is 13451973458118162 mysqlbackup: INFO: Uses posix_fadvise() for performance optimization. mysqlbackup: INFO: The --include option specified: innodb1.table3.* mysqlbackup: INFO: System tablespace file format is Antelope. mysqlbackup: INFO: Found checkpoint at lsn 1656792. mysqlbackup: INFO: Starting log scan from lsn 1656320. 120817 15:25:47 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying log... 120817 15:25:47 mysqlbackup: INFO: Log copied, lsn 1656792.          We wait 1 second before starting copying the data files... 120817 15:25:48 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying /mysql/trydbibdata1 (Antelope file format). 120817 15:25:49 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying /mysql/trydbinnodb1/table3.ibd (Antelope file format). mysqlbackup: INFO: Opening backup source directory '/mysql/trydb' 120817 15:25:49 mysqlbackup: INFO: Starting to backup .frm files in the subdirectories of /mysql/trydb mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying innodb data and logs during final stage ... mysqlbackup: INFO: A copied database page was modified at 1656792.          (This is the highest lsn found on page)          Scanned log up to lsn 1656792.          Was able to parse the log up to lsn 1656792.          Maximum page number for a log record 0 mysqlbackup: INFO: Copying non-innodb files took 2.000 seconds 120817 15:25:51 mysqlbackup: INFO: Full backup completed! mysqlbackup: INFO: Backup created in directory '/logs/backupWithFrm' -------------------------------------------------------------   Parameters Summary          -------------------------------------------------------------   Start LSN                  : 1656320   End LSN                    : 1656792 ------------------------------------------------------------- mysqlbackup completed OK! bash$ ls /logs/backupWithFrm/datadir/innodb1/ table3.frm table3.ibd Thus the backup directory contains only the .frm file matching the innodb table name specified in --include option. In a nutshell, we present our great new option --only-innodb-with-frm which is a true hot InnoDB-only backup with .frm files, but with an additional check, if any DDL happened during the backup. If a DDL has happened, the DBA can decide if to repeat the backup, or to live with the potential inconsistency. This is the ideal solution for users that have all their "real" data in InnoDB and seldom change their schemas. You may also like: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-enterprise-backup/3.7/en/backup-partial-options.html   STEP 3. Manually copy the .frm files of innodb tables to the destination directory where backup is stored.

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  • Best choice for a personal "online backup" in Europe

    - by marc_s
    I'm looking for an online backup solution for personal use - besides all the usual requirements (like not too expensive, since it's for personal use), I'd like to add two requirements to it: data center should be in Europe (I don't want my personal data stored in the US, when the next crazed president comes along and wants to confiscate and rifle through everybody's files.....) the online backup store should be accessible through a drive letter in cmd.exe So far, I've looked at a few services, but none have totally convinced me: Dropbox is looking ok, but they insist on creating a silly "My Dropbox" directory in my data path - and there's no way I can choose that name. Sorry - "My everything" is for dummies - I don't like that, I like to name my files and folders according to my liking LiveDrive is OK, too - they offer European storage, drive letter and all - but those drive letters are only available in the Windows Explorer - and not on the cmd.exe command line :-( and since I do 99% of my work on the command line, this is a major drawback..... Any other services I haven't looked at worth checking out? Marc

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