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  • VMWare Workstation 6.5.5 on Ubuntu 10.04 Install Freezes

    - by Android Eve
    I am trying to install VMWare Workstation 6.5.5 (64-bit) on Ubuntu 10.04 (64-bit), but at about 2/3 of the progress bar, it freezes where it says: Installing VMWare Player 2.5.5 Configuring... Interestingly, it is so frozen, that even after I hit cancel, it is still stuck. CPU consumption is at 0% and the command with which I launched the installer is: sudo sh VMware-Workstation-6.5.5-328052.x86_64.bundle Anyone has seen this before? Any idea why this is happening and how to solve this?

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  • Should I run Ubuntu 64bit on a laptop with 2GB of RAM?

    - by nhanb
    I'm using an Asus K43E laptop with: - Intel Core i3 Sandy Bridge 2.1GHz - 2GB DDR3 - Onboard graphics On the Ubuntu download page, the 32bit version is marked as "recommended", but the community documentation page suggests otherwise: Unless you have specific reasons to choose 32-bit, we recommend 64-bit to utilise the full capacity of your hardware. I use my laptop mostly for Eclipse, apart from regular office applications, then does it make any difference when choosing between 32bit and 64bit?

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  • VMWare Workstation 6.5.5 Install Freezes

    - by Android Eve
    I am trying to install VMWare Workstation 6.5.5 (64-bit) on Ubuntu 10.04 (64-bit), but at about 2/3 of the progress bar, it freezes where it says: Installing VMWare Player 2.5.5 Configuring... Interestingly, it is so frozen, that even after I hit cancel, it is still stuck. CPU consumption is at 0% and the command with which I launched the installer is: sudo sh VMware-Workstation-6.5.5-328052.x86_64.bundle Anyone has seen this before? Any idea why this is happening and how to solve this?

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  • subneting .. is 192.168.0.1/24 different than 192.168.0.1/25

    - by SM
    So i am trying to understand subnetting. I understand that you can take 192.168.0.0/24 domain and break it up in 2 subnets. 192.168.0.0/25 and 192.168.0.128/25 .. so what if i need to create 2 more subnets inside both of those above subnets. What if i need to create 2 subnets, which have 2 more subnets inside them and each of those 2 subnets have 2 hosts. As per my calculation, this would be something like. top 2 subnets: 192.168.0.0/25 and 192.168.0.128/25 subnets of 192.168.0.0/25: 192.168.0.0/26 - 192.168.0.128/26 subnets of 192.168.0.128/25: 192.168.0.128/26 - 192.168.0.192/26 hosts of 192.168.0.0/25: 192.168.0.1/25 - 192.168.0.2/25 hosts of 192.168.0.128/25: 192.168.0.129/25 - 192.168.0.130/25 hosts of 192.168.0.0/26: 192.168.0.1/26 - 192.168.0.2/26 hosts of 192.168.0.128/26: 192.168.0.129/26 - 192.168.0.130/26 hosts of 192.168.0.128/26: 192.168.0.129/26 - 192.168.0.130/26 hosts of 192.168.0.192/26: 192.168.0.193/26 - 192.168.0.194/26 The above doesnt seem right, i am moving down like a tree, however the subnet mask and IPs are being repeated, i am just add 1 to /x and making the ips from there. Can anyone please tell me if this is correct The scenario i am trying to understand is similar to this, however i just want to add hosts on each level as well. http://www.ciscotrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/the_mathematical_relationship_between_network_block_sizes.jpg

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  • How expensive to run PC 24/7 or how to figure out how to determine it?

    - by jasondavis
    I realize this question is difficult to answer as it would be different based on users location, what there PC is doing and what hardware it consist of, along with other factors but I am hoping someone could give me a very rough estimate. I have always ran many PC's in my home 24/7 and I am just now looking at it from a money/cost of electric point of view. 1) I live in Central Florida. Can anyone guesstomate/estimate the avaerage monthly or daily cost of running your average PC? Intel quad core processor, 1 SSD drive for OS and programs and 4-5 1-2 TB hard drives in a RAID setup for data. 750watt PSU. What would your guess be? 2) Also is there an accurate way to figure this out (non-super technical and confusing to a non-math person please) Also I have seen those kill-a-watt devices, do they figure this kind of stuff out for you? 3) Does a larger PSU make your PC consume more power? Thanks for any help, you can most likely tell I am somewhat lost about this!

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  • VMware ESXi VMI Paravirtualization vs 64-bit OS

    - by netvope
    VMware ESXi 4 supports VMI paravirtualization for 32-bit OS but not for 64-bit OS. For performance consideration, is it better to use a 32-bit Ubuntu Server guest without paravirtualization or a 64-bit one with VMI paravirtualization? Hardware: Core 2 Quad, 8 GB RAM Workload: Software development/testing, webserver, database

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  • Calculating rgb vals for BufferedImage

    - by Hamza Yerlikaya
    I am using following snippet to build a 32 bit integer to use with setRGB of BufferedImage (bit-or (bit-shift-left a 24) (bit-or (bit-shift-left r 16) (bit-or (bit-shift-left g 8) b))) after writing colors reading them back reveals wrong colors is there a fault in my logic?

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  • Flash Player Plugin on Firefox will not update on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit

    - by George
    I am running on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit, and my flash player plug-in for Firefox is outdated. I must update my plug-in to flash player 11, but I am not able. I have already installed Adobe Flash Player via Ubuntu Software center (As it prompted me to after trying to download from the Adobe site) Without the plug-in updated, videos can not be played from directly on a Facebook page, and I believe that it distorts the video player on Youtube. (Image of player can be seen at imgur.com/gYbFx)

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  • Ubuntu 64-bit 12.04 installation dvd boot problem blank screen

    - by user877329
    I get blank screen when trying to install UbuntuStudio 64-bit DVD (i tried to install from DVD not USB stick). When using nosplash and no quiet i see that it hangs when it tries to load the nouveau driver for my GeForce GT 630 so it looks like there is a problem with support for my graphics card. After installation, I tried to install the binary nvidia current driver from package manager, but then, i just get a text terminal after rebooting. Any solution?

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  • Referenced assemblies of a .NET Framework 2.0-based 32-bit application are loaded multiple times

    981266 ... Referenced assemblies of a .NET Framework 2.0-based 32-bit application are loaded multiple timesThis RSS feed provided by kbAlerz.com.Visit kbAlertz.com to subscribe. It's 100% free and you'll be able to recieve e-mail or RSS updates for the technologies you pick from the Microsoft Knowledge Base....Did you know that DotNetSlackers also publishes .net articles written by top known .net Authors? We already have over 80 articles in several categories including Silverlight. Take a look: here.

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  • SPC 300nc webcam doesn't work on 64-bit Ubuntu 11.10

    - by Felix Elnan
    It seems that this solution to webcam problems in Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't work in the 64 bit version. If i run the following command: "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype" all i get is: "ld.so: object '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored." and if i try: "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype" I get the same problem :( Does anyone have a solution?

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  • Linux on 8-bit

    - by nospam(at)example.com (Joerg Moellenkamp)
    This is nothing short of extremly cool from a technical perspective. The author has done it by writing an ARM emulator for an AVR controller and running Linux with this emulation : Linux on an 8-bit micro?.This is definitely not the fastest, but I think it may be the cheapest, slowest, simplest to hand assemble, lowest part count, and lowest-end Linux PC. The board is hand-soldered using wires, there is not even a requirement for a printed circuit board

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  • Debian, 6rd tunnel, and connection troubles

    - by Chris B
    Long story short I am having issues with IPv6 using a 6rd tunnel with my ISP, charter business. They offer a 6rd tunnel that I think I have properly set up, but the server doesn’t reply to every ipv6 request. When the server has the network interfaces idle with no traffic for about 10 minutes, then IPv6 stops accepting inbound connections. to re-allow it, I must go into the server, and make it do a outbound ipv6 connection (normally a ping) to start it back up. Whats weird though i that if I run iptraf when its not working, it still shows a inbound ipv6 packet… the server is just not replying, and I can’t figure out why. Also, if I try to access my server over IPv6 from a house about 1 mile away on the same ISP, it is never able to connect. it always times out, but again the iptraf shows a ipv6 inbound packet. Again, it just does not reply. To test if my server is accessible through IPv6 I always have to use my vzw 4g phone (they use IPv6) or ipv6proxy dot net. Here is all of the configuration information my ISP gives on there tunnel server: 6rd Prefix = 2602:100::/32 Border Relay Address = 68.114.165.1 6rd prefix length = 32 IPv4 mask length = 0 Here is my /etc/network/interfaces for ipv6 (used x's to block real addresses) auto charterv6 iface charterv6 inet6 v4tunnel address 2602:100:189f:xxxx::1 netmask 32 ttl 64 gateway ::68.114.165.1 endpoint 68.114.165.1 local 24.159.218.xxx up ip link set mtu 1280 dev charterv6 here is my iptables config filter :INPUT DROP [0:0] :fail2ban-ssh – [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :hold – [0:0] -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp —dport 22 -j fail2ban-ssh -A INPUT -m state —state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p tcp -m multiport -j ACCEPT —dports 80,443,25,465,110,995,143,993,587,465,22 -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp —dport 10000 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp —dport 5900:5910 -j ACCEPT -A fail2ban-ssh -j RETURN -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT COMMIT and last here is my ip6tables firewall config filter :INPUT DROP [1653:339023] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [60141:13757903] :hold – [0:0] -A INPUT -m state —state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p tcp -m multiport —dports 80,443,25,465,110,995,143,993,587,465,22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp —dport 10000 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp —dport 5900:5910 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT COMMIT So Summary: 1.iptraf always shows IPv6 traffic, so its always making it to the server 2.server stops replying on ipv6 after no traffic for awhile (10 minutesish) until a outbound connection is made, then the process repeats. 3.server is NEVER accessable vi same ISP (yet iptraf still shows ipv6 request) Notes: When I try to access it from the same ISP from across town, even with iptables and ip6tables allowing ALL inbound traffic, this is what iptraf shows. IPv6 (92 bytes) from 97.92.18.xxx to 24.159.218.xxx on eth0 ICMP dest unrch (port) (120 bytes) from 24.159.218.xxx to 97.92.18.xxx on eth1 its strange, like its trying to forward to LAN? (eth1 is LAN, eth0 is WAN) even with the IPv6 address being set in the hosts file to the servers domain name. With iptables set up normally with the above configurations it only says this: IPv6 (100 bytes) from 97.92.18.xxx to 24.159.218.xxx on eth0 Im REALLY stuck on this, and any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

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  • Jquery append input for 2 different input-sections

    - by Email
    Hi i use the following simple jquery script to append input. Source http://muiomuio.com/web-design/add-remove-items-with-jquery <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Add and Remove - jQuery tutorial</title> <script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> $(function() { var i = $('input').size() + 1; $('a.add').click(function() { $('<p><input type="text" value="input ' + i + '" name="input_field'+ i +'" /></p>').animate({ opacity: "show" }, "slow").appendTo('#inputs'); i++; }); $('a.remove').click(function() { if(i > 2) { $('input:last').animate({opacity:"hide"}, "slow").remove(); i--; } }); $('a.reset').click(function() { while(i > 2) { $('input:last').remove(); i--; } }); }); </script> </head> <body> <h1>Add / remove text fields from webform</h1> <a href="#" class="add"><img src="add.png" width="24" height="24" alt="add" title="add input" /></a> <a href="#" class="remove"><img src="remove.png" width="24" height="24" alt="remove input" /></a> <a href="#" class="reset"><img src="reset.png" width="24" height="24" alt="reset" /></a> <div id="inputs"> <p> <input type="text" value="input 1" name="input_field1"> </p> </div> </div> </body> </html> I know want to add more input fields so i add this html <div id="outputs"> <p> <input type="text" value="output 1" name="output_field1"> </p> how can i achieve that the var i = $('input').size() + 1; will be individually for every input section? EDITED: the full script is the following. copy and paste will get you a full clone of mine. Problem still exists <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Add and Remove - jQuery tutorial</title> <script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> $(function() { var i = $('input').size() + 1; $('a.add').click(function() { $('<p><input type="text" value="input ' + i + '" name="input_field'+ i +'" /></p>').animate({ opacity: "show" }, "slow").appendTo('#inputs'); i++; }); $('a.remove').click(function() { if(i > 2) { $('input:last').animate({opacity:"hide"}, "slow").remove(); i--; } }); $('a.reset').click(function() { while(i > 2) { $('input:last').remove(); i--; } }); $('a.add_o').click(function() { $('<p><input type="text" value="output ' + i + '" name="input_field'+ i +'" /></p>').animate({ opacity: "show" }, "slow").appendTo('#outputs'); i++; }); $('a.remove_o').click(function() { if(i > 2) { $('input:last').animate({opacity:"hide"}, "slow").remove(); i--; } }); $('a.reset_o').click(function() { while(i > 2) { $('input:last').remove(); i--; } }); }); </script> <style rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> h1 { font-family:"Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;} .hide {visibility:hidden;} img {border:none;} input { width:500px; height:20px; padding:10px; background:#f7f7f7; border:1px solid #f0f0f0; color:#333; font-size:20px; text-align:center; line-height:120px; margin:0; -moz-border-radius:5px; -webkit-border-radius:5px; } #inputs { width:520px; padding:0px 20px; border:1px solid #f0f0f0; -moz-border-radius:20px; -webkit-border-radius:20px; } </style> </head> <body> <h1>Add / remove text fields from webform</h1> <a href="#" class="add"><img src="http://muiomuio.com/tutorials/jquery/add-remove/add.png" width="24" height="24" alt="add" title="add input" /></a> <a href="#" class="remove"><img src="http://muiomuio.com/tutorials/jquery/add-remove/remove.png" width="24" height="24" alt="remove input" /></a> <a href="#" class="reset"><img src="http://muiomuio.com/tutorials/jquery/add-remove/reset.png" width="24" height="24" alt="reset" /></a> <div id="inputs"> <p> <input type="text" value="input 1" name="input_field1"> </p> </div> <a href="#" class="add_o"><img src="http://muiomuio.com/tutorials/jquery/add-remove/add.png" width="24" height="24" alt="add" title="add input" /></a> <a href="#" class="remove_o"><img src="http://muiomuio.com/tutorials/jquery/add-remove/remove.png" width="24" height="24" alt="remove input" /></a> <a href="#" class="reset_o"><img src="http://muiomuio.com/tutorials/jquery/add-remove/reset.png" width="24" height="24" alt="reset" /></a> <div id="outputs"> <p> <input type="text" value="output 1" name="output_field1"> </p> </div> </body> </html>

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  • Can Windows handle inheritance cross the 32-bit/64-bit boundary?

    - by TheBeardyMan
    Is it possible for a child process to inherit a handle from its parent process if one process is 32-bit and the other is 64-bit? HANDLE is a 64 bit type on Win64 and a 32 bit type on Win32, which suggests that even it were supposed to be possible in all cases, there would be some cases where it would fail: a 64-bit parent process, a 32-bit child process, and a handle that can't be represented in 32 bits. Or is naming the object the only way for a 32-bit process and a 64-bit process to get a handle for the same object?

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  • how to work with strings and integers as bit strings in python?

    - by Manuel
    Hello! I'm developing a Genetic Algorithm in python were chromosomes are composed of strings and integers. To apply the genetic operations, I want to convert these groups of integers and strings into bit strings. For example, if one chromosome is: ["Hello", 4, "anotherString"] I'd like it to become something like: 0100100100101001010011110011 (this is not actual translation). So... How can I do this? Chromosomes will contain the same amount of strings and integers, but this numbers can vary from one algorithm run to another. To be clear, what I want to obtain is the bit representation of each element in the chromosome concatenated. If you think this would not be the best way to apply genetic operators (such as mutation and simple crossover) just tell me! I'm open to new ideas. Thanks a lot! Manuel

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  • Targetting x86 vs AnyCPU when building for 64 bit window OSes

    - by Mr Roys
    I have an existing C# application written for .NET 2.0 and targetting AnyCPU at the moment. It currently references some third party .NET DLLs which I don't have the source for (and I'm not sure if they were built for x86, x64 or AnyCPU). If I want to run my application specifically on a 64 bit Windows OS, which platform should I target in order for my app to run without errors? My understanding at the moment is to target: x86: If at least one third party .NET dll is built for x86 or use p/Invoke to interface with Win32 DLLs. Application will run in 32 bit mode on both 32 bit and 64 bit OSes. x64: If all third party .NET dlls are already built for x64 or AnyCPU. Application will only run in 64 bit OSes. AnyCPU: If all third party .NET dlls are already built for AnyCPU. Application will run in 32 bit mode on 32 bit OSes and 64 bit on 64 bit OSes. Also, am I right to believe that while targetting AnyCPU will generate no errors when building a application referencing third party x86 .NET DLLs, the application will throw a runtime exception when it tries to load these DLLs when it runs on a 64 bit OS. Hence, as long as one of my third party DLLs is doing p/Invoke or are x86, I can only target x86 for this application?

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  • Optimizing Vector elements swaps using CUDA

    - by Orion Nebula
    Hi all, Since I am new to cuda .. I need your kind help I have this long vector, for each group of 24 elements, I need to do the following: for the first 12 elements, the even numbered elements are multiplied by -1, for the second 12 elements, the odd numbered elements are multiplied by -1 then the following swap takes place: Graph: because I don't yet have enough points, I couldn't post the image so here it is: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?e4b88fb666.png I have written this piece of code, and wonder if you could help me further optimize it to solve for divergence or bank conflicts .. //subvector is a multiple of 24, Mds and Nds are shared memory _shared_ double Mds[subVector]; _shared_ double Nds[subVector]; int tx = threadIdx.x; int tx_mod = tx ^ 0x0001; int basex = __umul24(blockDim.x, blockIdx.x); Mds[tx] = M.elements[basex + tx]; __syncthreads(); // flip the signs if (tx < (tx/24)*24 + 12) { //if < 12 and even if ((tx & 0x0001)==0) Mds[tx] = -Mds[tx]; } else if (tx < (tx/24)*24 + 24) { //if >12 and < 24 and odd if ((tx & 0x0001)==1) Mds[tx] = -Mds[tx]; } __syncthreads(); if (tx < (tx/24)*24 + 6) { //for the first 6 elements .. swap with last six in the 24elements group (see graph) Nds[tx] = Mds[tx_mod + 18]; Mds [tx_mod + 18] = Mds [tx]; Mds[tx] = Nds[tx]; } else if (tx < (tx/24)*24 + 12) { // for the second 6 elements .. swp with next adjacent group (see graph) Nds[tx] = Mds[tx_mod + 6]; Mds [tx_mod + 6] = Mds [tx]; Mds[tx] = Nds[tx]; } __syncthreads(); Thanks in advance ..

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  • How to install Canon MP610 printer on Ubuntu 12.04 x64

    - by Arkadius
    I installed Ubuntu 12.04 x64. Orginal Canon drivers are only for 32-bit version. How can I install this printer in 64-bit version ? Arkadius HERE IS SOLUTION I looked for solution some time and finally found it. First I try to do it by adding repository like it is written here: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/02/install-canon-printer-for-ubuntu-linux.html BUT it did NOT work. Printer was installed but every print JOB goes somewhere ( probably to /dev/null :) ) Also installing sudo apt-get install ia32-libs did NOT worked (it was already installed) Finally I found solution. NOTE I did NOT use orginal Canon drivers for 32-bit. I also removed drivers from repository: ppa:michael-gruz/canon I found solution almost at the end of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967725&page=10 Most important hint was found in Response #97 "Do NOT install any PPA" I did as follows: Removed all copies of my printer Removed Canon drivers from repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon sudo apt-get remove cnijfilter* Added new repository and installed CUPS for Canon: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:robbiew/cups-bjnp sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install cups-bjnp Installed Gutenprint: sudo apt-get install printer-driver-gutenprint Restarted CUPS: sudo restart cups Add myself to group lp: sudo usermod -G lp -a your_user_name Added printer usings steps from link above: Don't install any PPA for the drivers. Click the Cog up in the right-hand corner and select Printers. Turn on the printer and make sure it is connected. When the Printers windows appears, click +Add and wait a few minutes. Your printer should appear within the configuration wizard. Mine did and its an Canon MX330. Click the defaults and continue on. Cups should identify your printer. I saw a few other models in the list. I was able to successfully print a test page afterwards. I hope this will also help someone else. Arkadius .

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  • Is it OK to remove appmenu-gtk and install appmenu-gtk:i386?

    - by medigeek
    I wanted to eliminate some skype errors and by installing the appmenu-gtk:i386 package the errors were gone! $ skype /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 (skype:2841): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 (skype:2841): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 (skype:2841): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 (skype:2841): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load type module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so The change was easy: sudo apt-get install appmenu-gtk:i386 I haven't noticed any "weird" outcome (yet). The good thing was that it cleared the skype errors. But I have my doubts. Has anyone tried something similar? Removing appmenu-gtk and installing appmenu-gtk:i386 on a 64-bit system? Could it break any applications? Similar question: Resolving dependencies related to 32 bit libraries on 64 bit

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  • 64-bit Cisco VPN client (IPsec) ?

    - by mika
    Cisco VPN client (IPsec) does not support 64bit Windows. Worse, Cisco does not even plan to release a 64-bit version, instead they say that "For x64 (64-bit) Windows support, you must utilize Cisco's next-generation Cisco AnyConnect VPN Client." Cisco VPN Client Introduction Cisco VPN Client FAQ But SSL VPN licences cost extra. For example, most new ASA firewalls come with plenty of IPSec VPN licences but only a few SSL VPN licences. What alternatives do you have for 64-bit Windows? So far, I know two: 32-bit Cisco VPN Client on a virtual machine NCP Secure Entry Client on 64-bit Windows Any other suggestions or experiences? -mika-

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