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• Can any postfix guru assist me determine how emails are still being sent via my server from unauthorized sources?

  - by Dave

  Hi all, I'm getting a little concerned as I run a small server hosting a number of websites and manage the email for a few dozen people. Just recently though I've had a couple of notifications from spamcop alerting me that spam has been sent from my server, and when I have a look over the logs from time to time I can indeed see that there are many repeated attempts of mail being sent from my server. Most of the time it gets knocked back from the destination servers but sometimes its getting through. Unfortunately I'm not linux or postfix expert, I can get by but had though I had my machine locked down quite securely, I don't allow relaying, when I check the online DNS/MX tools they tend to report my server as being OK so I'm not sure where to take it now and hoping someone might be able to throw me a few pointers. I get lots of entries like this in my MAIL.INFO log Jan 2 08:39:34 Debian-50-lenny-64-LAMP postfix/qmgr[15993]: 66B88257C12F: from=<>, size=3116, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 2 08:39:34 Debian-50-lenny-64-LAMP postfix/qmgr[15993]: 614C2257C1BC: from=<[email protected]>, size=2490, nrcpt=3 (queue active) and Jan 7 16:09:37 Debian-50-lenny-64-LAMP postfix/error[6471]: 0A316257C204: to=<[email protected]>, relay=none, delay=384387, delays=384384/3/0/0.01, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: host mx.fakemx.net[46.4.35.23] refused to talk to me: 421 mx.fakemx.net Service Unavailable) Jan 7 16:09:37 Debian-50-lenny-64-LAMP postfix/error[6470]: 5848C257C20D: to=<[email protected]>, relay=none, delay=384373, delays=384370/3/0/0.01, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: host mx.fakemx.net[46.4.35.23] refused to talk to me: 421 mx.fakemx.net Service Unavailable) then there tends to be connection timeouts, so from what I see even though I had relaying disabled.. something is getting by and trying to send.. So if you can help that will be greatly appreciated, and any further logging/config info I can supply. Thanks

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• Using functions in models to dynamically fill fields on object creation in Django

  - by danspants

  Within Django, can a function local to a model be called on object creation to dynamically fill a field? class someModel(models.Model): id = models.FloatField(primary_key=True, default=generate_id()) def generate_id(self): newId=time.time() return newId So far I haven't had any luck with getting it to work or with locating documentation that covers it.

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• Understanding VS2010 C# parallel profiling results

  - by Haggai

  I have a program with many independent computations so I decided to parallelize it. I use Parallel.For/Each. The results were okay for a dual-core machine - CPU utilization of about 80%-90% most of the time. However, with a dual Xeon machine (i.e. 8 cores) I get only about 30%-40% CPU utilization, although the program spends quite a lot of time (sometimes more than 10 seconds) on the parallel sections, and I see it employs about 20-30 more threads in those sections compared to serial sections. Each thread takes more than 1 second to complete, so I see no reason for them to work in parallel - unless there is a synchronization problem. I used the built-in profiler of VS2010, and the results are strange. Even though I use locks only in one place, the profiler reports that about 85% of the program's time is spent on synchronization (also 5-7% sleep, 5-7% execution, under 1% IO). The locked code is only a cache (a dictionary) get/add: bool esn_found; lock (lock_load_esn) esn_found = cache.TryGetValue(st, out esn); if(!esn_found) { esn = pData.esa_inv_idx.esa[term_idx]; esn.populate(pData.esa_inv_idx.datafile); lock (lock_load_esn) { if (!cache.ContainsKey(st)) cache.Add(st, esn); } } lock_load_esn is a static member of the class of type Object. esn.populate reads from a file using a separate StreamReader for each thread. However, when I press the Synchronization button to see what causes the most delay, I see that the profiler reports lines which are function entrance lines, and doesn't report the locked sections themselves. It doesn't even report the function that contains the above code (reminder - the only lock in the program) as part of the blocking profile with noise level 2%. With noise level at 0% it reports all the functions of the program, which I don't understand why they count as blocking synchronizations. So my question is - what is going on here? How can it be that 85% of the time is spent on synchronization? How do I find out what really is the problem with the parallel sections of my program? Thanks.

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• Internet Explorer 8 Loses Cookies

  - by Mikeon

  I'm running Windows 7 for some time now and use Internet Explorer 8 as my main browser. What I've noticed is that it "loses" cookies A LOT! I mean it! Typical situation: I log in into a side checking the remember me checkbox. I reboot the computer/restart the browser, go to the site, get logged in automatically - I'm happy. From time to time however, I'm asked for the credentials. Normal situation you would say. So would I if it didn't happen few times a week. Come on! On Internet Explorer 7 I didn't notice this as much. Cookies were lost once a quarter or so. Note that i was using IE7Pro with my IE - dunno however if it has anything to do with my current problem. Anyway I wonder if this behavior is "normal" or is it only me? more info for people that suggest it may be normal - cookie expiring and stuff. When it happens I loose all auth cookies - gmail, bloglines and whatnot!

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• Urgent : GPS timeout in android

  - by Farha Ansari

  Hi, In blackberry, we use a timeout to get the location, so that if it doesnt retun location in that much time period, we get to know. But in Android, there is no concept of timeout, can anyone please tell the alternative, that we can find out that after this much time there is no location update from GPS. Thanks

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• install zenoss on ubuntu, raise No valid ZENHOME error

  - by bxshi

  I've added an user with name zenoss, and set export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss in ~/.bashrc under /home/zenoss, and when using echo $ZENHOME, it could show /usr/local/zenoss When install zenoss, I switched to zenoss and then run install.sh under zenoss-4.2.0/inst, when it tries to run Tests, the error occured. ------------------------------------------------------- T E S T S ------------------------------------------------------- Running org.zenoss.utils.ZenPacksTest Tests run: 3, Failures: 0, Errors: 3, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 0.045 sec <<< FAILURE! Running org.zenoss.utils.ZenossTest Tests run: 3, Failures: 0, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 0.71 sec Results : Tests in error: testGetZenPack(org.zenoss.utils.ZenPacksTest): No valid ZENHOME could be found. testGetPackPath(org.zenoss.utils.ZenPacksTest): No valid ZENHOME could be found. testGetAllPacks(org.zenoss.utils.ZenPacksTest): No valid ZENHOME could be found. Tests run: 6, Failures: 0, Errors: 3, Skipped: 0 [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] Reactor Summary: [INFO] [INFO] Zenoss Core ....................................... SUCCESS [27.643s] [INFO] Zenoss Core Utilities ............................. FAILURE [12.742s] [INFO] Zenoss Jython Distribution ........................ SKIPPED [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] BUILD FAILURE [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] Total time: 40.586s [INFO] Finished at: Wed Sep 26 15:39:24 CST 2012 [INFO] Final Memory: 16M/60M [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ERROR] Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin:2.8:test (default-test) on project utils: There are test failures. [ERROR] [ERROR] Please refer to /home/zenoss/zenoss-4.2.0/inst/build/java/java/zenoss-utils/target/surefire-reports for the individual test results.

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• HT create a new vector in data frame that takes correlation of existing vectors

  - by Milktrader

  I have a time series of two indexes, with each row representing the closing price on the same day. I'd like to go to row 30 and lookback over the last 30 'days' and calculate the pearson correlation. And then store that value in a new vector. Then, repeat the calculation for the entire time series. It is a trivial task in Excel, so I'm convinced it can be done in R. I don't know the method to use though.

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• Turn off monitor (energy saving) while in text console mode (in Linux)

  - by Denilson Sá

  How to configure Linux text console to automatically turn of the monitor after some time? And by "text console" I mean that thing that you get on ctrl+alt+F[1-6], which is what you get whenever X11 is not running. And, no, I'm not using any framebuffer console (it's a plain, good and old 80x25 text-mode). Many years ago, I was using Slackware Linux, and it used to boot up in text-mode. Then you would manually run startx after the login. Anyway, the main login "screen" was the plain text-mode console, and I remember that the monitor used to turn off (energy saving mode, indicated by a blinking LED) after some time. Now I'm using Gentoo, and I have a similar setup. The machine boots up in text-mode, and only rarely I need to run startx. I say this because this is mostly my personal Linux server, and there is no need to keep X11 running all the time. (which means: I don't want to use GDM/KDM or any other graphical login screen) But now, in this Gentoo text-mode console, the screen goes black after a while, but the monitor does not enter any energy-saving mode (the LED is always lit). Yes, I've waited long enough to verify this. Thus, my question is: how can I configure my current system to behave like the old one? In other words, how to make the text console trigger energy-saving mode of the monitor? (maybe I should (cross-)post this question to http://unix.stackexchange.com/ )

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• RDP or SSH connection trough Windows 2008 server VPN hang after a while

  - by xt4fs

  I have been experiencing a very strange issue with our VPN setup on Windows Server 2008. That server is running as a Xen Virtual Machine. We use it for two purposes, permit our mobile workers to connect to another server hosted somewhere else that only allow that ip, and use it to RDP or ssh to many other virtual machine on the same server. The server has no performance issue and still a load of memory free. All other virtual machine has no problem whatsoever. Many of those virtual machine have public IP (web servers) and all their firewall are set to allow only ssh connection or RDP connection from their local interface. When I am connecting directly with either ssh or RDP to one of the other virtual machine everything run without any issues. However, when I am doing so through the VPN after some time the connection just hang, it usually continue after some time (5 or 10 minutes). It seems as more there is network usage more often it happen to a point where it is completely unusable. The worst thing I can do to hang it faster is to actually ping the vpn client IP from the local network, after some time the latency increase until it hang. This happen even if I do RDP to the local ip of the VPN server trough the VPN. The server report no problem and if I disconnect to the vpn and reconnect right away everything is alright. There is nothing wrong in the VPN server log. I have taught at the beginning that it could have been an issue with the Host server so I try to RDP,ssh directly to the guest and I have experience no issue while doing this, so it really seems to be a problem with the VPN server on Windows server 2008. Another very weird thing is it does not seems to be of any issue if you only do Internet (NAT) without trying to connect to any local ips.

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• Is it a good way to close a thread?

  - by Roman

  I have a short version of the question: I start a thread like that: counter.start();, where counter is a thread. At the point when I want to stop the thread I do that: counter.interrupt() In my thread I periodically do this check: Thread.interrupted(). If it gives true I return from the thread and, as a consequence, it stops. And here are some details, if needed: If you need more details, they are here. From the invent dispatch thread I start a counter thread in this way: public static void start() { SwingUtilities.invokeLater(new Runnable() { public void run() { showGUI(); counter.start(); } }); } where the thread is defined like that: public static Thread counter = new Thread() { public void run() { for (int i=4; i>0; i=i-1) { updateGUI(i,label); try {Thread.sleep(1000);} catch(InterruptedException e) {}; } // The time for the partner selection is over. SwingUtilities.invokeLater(new Runnable() { public void run() { frame.remove(partnerSelectionPanel); frame.add(selectionFinishedPanel); frame.invalidate(); frame.validate(); } }); } }; The thread performs countdown in the "first" window (it shows home much time left). If time limit is over, the thread close the "first" window and generate a new one. I want to modify my thread in the following way: public static Thread counter = new Thread() { public void run() { for (int i=4; i>0; i=i-1) { if (!Thread.interrupted()) { updateGUI(i,label); } else { return; } try {Thread.sleep(1000);} catch(InterruptedException e) {}; } // The time for the partner selection is over. if (!Thread.interrupted()) { SwingUtilities.invokeLater(new Runnable() { public void run() { frame.remove(partnerSelectionPanel); frame.add(selectionFinishedPanel); frame.invalidate(); frame.validate(); } }); } else { return; } } };

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• IBM MQ Messages getting reposted

  - by Anand

  hi I am posting messages to an MQ and reading them into my application For some reason randomly some messages are getting reposted. The fist time they are corrupted but the second time they are fine. How can I handle this ? I want to ensure that a message gets posted only once.

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• Create Embedded Resources problem

  - by Night Walker

  I am trying to add an Embedded Resource I am doing it like it is written in following tutorial http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/e2c9s1d7%28VS.80%29.aspx But I cant the Persistence property from Linked at compile time To Embedded in .resx It always gray at Linked at compile time . Any idea why i have this problem ? Thanks .

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• Sharepoint Wikis

  - by Keng

  Ok, I've seen a few posts that mention a few other posts about not using SP wikis because they suck. Since we are looking at doing our wiki in SP, I need to know why we shouldn't do it for a group of 6 automation-developers to document the steps in various automated processes and the changes that have to be made from time to time. Thanks.

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• Is Nant dead?

  - by nandos

  Looking at the Nant and Nantcontrib repositories at Sourceforge I noticed that the last release of Nant is from December 7th 2007 and the latest release of Nantcontrib is from October 15th 2006! So, is it looks like the development of these tools has stalled for a while. Is anyone still working on those tools? Is it smart to invest my time into getting proficient on Nant, or should I just invest the time into MSBUILD?

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• PC freezes after repeated clicking noises

  - by Péter Török

  I have an oldish PC (Athlon XP 2200, WinXP). Every time I switch it on, I hear a loud "click" first of all, and when it is shut down, again a click is the last sound I hear. Lately it started to behave erratically: it started to click loudly in the middle of a session. First only once in a while, then repeatedly for several seconds in a row, and finally it froze completely. We were not doing anything particular during these times, usually just browsing the web. This has already happened twice in a few week's time period. We typically use it only in the evenings, so when the freeze happened, I just decided it is time for the bed. When it was started up the next day, everything looked fine. Any hints on what could be the culprit? Could it be caused by an ageing heat fan, or dust that has accumulated inside the case? We are backing up all the data stored on it, and then will open the case to look inside, but I thought it would be good to get some background info first of all.

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• Testing for disk write

  - by Montecristo

  I'm writing an application for storing lots of images (size <5MB) on an ext3 filesystem, this is what I have for now. After some searching here on serverfault I have decided for a structure of directories like this: 000/000/000000001.jpg ... 236/519/236519107.jpg This structure will allow me to save up to 1'000'000'000 images as I'll store a max of 1'000 images in each leaf. I've created it, from a theoretical point of view seems ok to me (though I've no experience on this), but I want to find out what will happen when there will be directories full of files in there. A question about creating this structure: is it better to create it all in one go (takes approx 50 minutes on my pc) or should I create directories as they are needed? From a developer point of view I think the first option is better (no extra waiting time for the user), but from a sysadmin point of view, is this ok? I've thought I could do as if the filesystem is already under the running application, I'll make a script that will save images as fast as it can, monitoring things as follows: how much time does it take for an image to be saved when there is no or little space used? how does this change when the space starts to be used up? how much time does it take for an image to be read from a random leaf? Does this change a lot when there are lots of files? Does launching this command sync; echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches has any sense at all? Is this the only thing I have to do to have a clean start if I want to start over again with my tests? Do you have any suggestions or corrections?

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• Apache taking up a lot of CPU while running request-tracker4

  - by bhowmik

  I am trying out a request-tracker installation on an EC2 micro instance. The specs for the micro instance are as follows 1) Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, 613MB RAM, 8GB Hard Drive 2) Running request-tracker 4.0.4 from the repository, perl 5.14.2, Apache2, MySQL5 3) Request-tracker4.0.4 running with mod_perl2 and Worker mpm 4) Apache configured with Worker MPM. Config snippet given below Timeout 150 KeepAlive On MaxKeepAliveRequests 60 KeepAliveTimeout 2 <IfModule mpm_worker_module> StartServers 2 MinSpareThreads 25 MaxSpareThreads 75 ThreadLimit 64 ThreadsPerChild 25 MaxClients 150 MaxRequestsPerChild 0 </IfModule> Now when I start Apache2 it works fine for some time and after a while the CPU load shoots up to 99% or more. Usually it is one or more Apache processes doing this. I've tried a to modify the worker module configuration without any luck. The log files for both Apache2 and request-tracker4 are set to log debug messages and don't show anything to indicate what could be causing this. The system gets a maximum of 5 users at any given time and usually (90% of the time) it is just 2. I've just installed it and we only have 20 tickets in the database. I don't think its the memory thats causing the issue since the server isn't swapping or even close to it and I hardly see the memory usage go up. Would appreciate any pointers on how to go about troubleshooting this. In case it helps I've also tried this out a similar installation on a small instance (Identical settings except RAM bumped upto 1.7GB) and I still see the issue.

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• difference between Convert.ToInt32 and (int)

  - by balalakshmi

  the following syntax throws an compile time error like Cannot convert type 'string' to 'int' string name=(Session["name1"].ToString()); int i = (int)name; whereas the code below compiles and executes successfully string name=(Session["name1"].ToString()); int i = Convert.ToInt32(name); I would like to know 1) why the compile time error occurs in first code 2) what's the difference between the 2 code snippets

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• Trying to write a loop that uses an OutputStream to write to a text file.

  - by Steve McLain

  I'm not a java programmer, I'm a VB programmer. I am doing this as part of an assignment, however, I'm not asking for help on something assignment related. I'd like to figure out how to get the OutputStreamWriter to work properly in this instance. I just want to capture the values I'm generating and place them into a text document. The file is generated, but only one entry exists, not the 40 I'm expecting. I could do this in a heartbeat with VB, but java feels very strange to me right now. Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Steve Here's the code: public static void main(String[] args){ long start, end; double result,difference; try {//OutputStream code assistance from http://tutorials.jenkov.com/java-io/outputstreamwriter.html OutputStream outputStream = new FileOutputStream("c:\\Temp\\output1.txt"); Writer out = new OutputStreamWriter(outputStream); for(int n=1; n<=20; n++){ //Calculate the Time for n^2. start = System.nanoTime(); //Add code to call method to calculate n^2 result = mN2(n); end = System.nanoTime(); difference = (end - start); //Output results to a file out.write("N^2 End time: " + end + " Difference: " + difference + "\n"); out.close(); } } catch (IOException e){ } try { OutputStream outputStream = new FileOutputStream("c:\\Temp\\output1.txt"); Writer out = new OutputStreamWriter(outputStream); for(int n=1; n<=20; n++){ //Calculate the Time for 2^n. start = System.nanoTime(); //Add code to call method to calculate 2^n result = m2N(n); end = System.nanoTime(); difference = (end - start); //Output results to a file out.write("N^2 End time: " + end + " Difference: " + difference + "\n"); out.close(); } } catch (IOException e){ } } //Calculate N^2 public static double mN2(double n) { n = n*n; return n; } //Calculate 2N public static double m2N (double n) { n = 2*n; return n; }

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• Timestamp issue with localtime and mktime

  - by egiakoum1984

  Please see the code below: #include <iostream> #include <stdlib.h> #include <time.h> using namespace std; int main(void) { time_t current_time = 1270715952; cout << "Subscriber current timestamp:" << current_time << endl; tm* currentTm = localtime(&current_time); char tmp_str[256]; //2010-04-08T11:39:12 snprintf(tmp_str, sizeof(tmp_str), "%04d%02d%02d%02d%02d%02d.000", currentTm->tm_year+1900, currentTm->tm_mon+1, currentTm->tm_mday, currentTm->tm_hour, currentTm->tm_min, currentTm->tm_sec); cout << "Subscriber current date:" << tmp_str << endl; tm tmpDateScheduleFrom, tmpDateScheduleTo; memset(&tmpDateScheduleFrom, 0, sizeof(tm)); memset(&tmpDateScheduleTo, 0, sizeof(tm)); //2010-04-08T11:00 tmpDateScheduleFrom.tm_sec = 0; tmpDateScheduleFrom.tm_min = 0; tmpDateScheduleFrom.tm_hour = 11; tmpDateScheduleFrom.tm_mday = 8; tmpDateScheduleFrom.tm_mon = 3; tmpDateScheduleFrom.tm_year = 110; //2010-04-08T12:00 tmpDateScheduleTo.tm_sec = 0; tmpDateScheduleTo.tm_min = 0; tmpDateScheduleTo.tm_hour = 12; tmpDateScheduleTo.tm_mday = 8; tmpDateScheduleTo.tm_mon = 3; tmpDateScheduleTo.tm_year = 110; time_t localFrom = mktime(&tmpDateScheduleFrom); time_t localTo = mktime(&tmpDateScheduleTo); cout << "Subscriber current timestamp:" << current_time << endl; cout << "Subscriber localFrom:" << localFrom << endl; cout << "Subscriber localTo:" << localTo << endl; return 0; } The results are the following: Subscriber current timestamp:1270715952 Subscriber current date:20100408113912.000 Subscriber current timestamp:1270715952 Subscriber localFrom:1270717200 Subscriber localTo:1270720800 Why the current subscriber timestamp (subscriber date and time: 2010-04-08T11:39:12) is not between the range localFrom (timestamp of date/time: 2010-04-08T11:00:00) and LocalTo (timestamp of date/time: 2010-04-08T12:00:00)?

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• Is there something like List<String, Int32, Int32> (multidimensional generic list)

  - by Alex

  I need something similar to List<String, Int32, Int32>. List only supports one type at a time, and Dictionary only two at a time. Is there a clean way to do something like the above (a multidimensional generic list/collection)?

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• Unable to specify parameters to cvlc in a script

  - by VxJasonxV

  I'm creating a script that issues a few curl commands in order to access a time-protected mms stream link, then set up a relay using cvlc (vlc's command line interface) for my own use on an unencumbered player. The curl aspect of this is working, as I can run as a browser and curl side by side and get the same access url. (It's time locked meaning the stream will work forever, but you have to connect quickly or the URL will time out.) The very end of the script prints the command I will run, which is then followed up by "exec $CMD". When I echo $CMD I get: cvlc --sout '#standard{access=http,mux=asf,dst=0.0.0.0:58194}' mms://[...] Manually Copy/Pasting this command in, verbatim, works perfectly fine, but as part of a script, the cvlc execution output says: [0x9743d0] main interface error: no suitable interface module [0x962120] main libvlc error: interface "globalhotkeys,none" initialization failed [0x9743d0] dummy interface: using the dummy interface module... [0xb16e30] stream_out_standard stream out error: no mux specified or found by extension [0xb16ad0] main stream output error: stream chain failed for `standard{mux="",access="",dst="'#standard{access=http,mux=asf,dst=0.0.0.0:58194}'"}' [0xb11cd0] main input error: cannot start stream output instance, aborting [0xb11f70] signals interface error: Caught Interrupt signal, exiting... Why is --sout behaving one way in a script (non-interactive shell?) vs. another way in the foreground (interactive shell) ?

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• Middleware with generic communication media layer

  - by Tom

  Greetings all, I'm trying to implement middleware (driver) for an embedded device with generic communication media layer. Not sure what is the best way to do it so I'm seeking an advice from more experienced stackoverflow users:). Basically we've got devices around the country communicating with our servers (or a pda/laptop in used in field). Usual form of communication is over TCP/IP, but could be also using usb, RF dongle, IR, etc. The plan is to have object corresponding with each of these devices, handling the proprietary protocol on one side and requests/responses from other internal systems on the other. The thing is how create something generic in between the media and the handling objects. I had a play around with the TCP dispatcher using boost.asio but trying to create something generic seems like a nightmare :). Anybody tried to do something like that? What is the best way how to do it? Example: Device connects to our Linux server. New middleware instance is created (on the server) which announces itself to one of the running services (details are not important). The service is responsible for making sure that device's time is synchronized. So it asks the middleware what is the device's time, driver translates it to device language (protocol) and sends the message, device responses and driver again translates it for the service. This might seem as a bit overkill for such a simple request but imagine there are more complex requests which the driver must translate, also there are several versions of the device which use different protocol, etc. but would use the same time sync service. The goal is to abstract the devices through the drivers to be able to use the same service to communicate with them. Another example: we find out that the remote communications with the device are down. So we send somebody out with PDA, he connects to the device using USB cable. Starts up the application which has the same functionality as the timesync service. Again middleware instance is created (on the PDA) to translate communication between application and the device this time only using USB/serial media not TCP/IP as in previous example. I hope it makes more sense now :) Cheers, Tom

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• Terminate subprocess in Windows, access denied

  - by Jesse Aldridge

  - import time import subprocess from os.path import expanduser chrome_path = expanduser('~\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe') proc = subprocess.Popen(chrome_path) time.sleep(4) proc.terminate() Output: WindowsError: [Error 5] Access is denied How can I kill the Chrome process?

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• Function Point Analysis -- a seriously over-estimating technique?

  - by kizzx2

  I know questions about FPA has been asked numerous times before, but this time I'm taking a more analytical angle at it, backed up with data. 1. First, some data This question is based on a tutorial. He had a "Sample Count" section where he demonstrated it step by step. You can see some screenshots of his sample application here. In the end, he calculated the unadjusted FP to be 99. There is another article on InformIT with industry data on typical hour/FP. It ranges from 2 hours/FP to 27.4 hours/FP. Let's try to stick with 2 for the moment (since SO readers are probably the more efficient crowd :p). 2. Reality check!? Now just check out the screenshots again. Do a little math here 99 * 2 = 198 hours 198 hours / 40 hours per week = 5 weeks Seriously? That sample application is going to take 5 weeks to implement? Is it just my feeling that it wouldn't take any decent programmer longer than one week to have it completed? Now let's try estimating the cost of the project. We'll use New York's minimum wage at the moment (Wikipedia), which is $7.25 198 * 7.25 = $1435.5 From what I could see from the screenshots, this application is a small excel-improvement app. I could have bought MS Office Pro for 200 bucks which gives me greater interoperability (.xls files) and flexibility (spreadsheets). (For the record, that same Web site has another article discussing productivity. It seems like they typically use 4.2 hours/FP, which gives us even more shocking stats: 99 * 4.2 = 415 hours = 10 weeks = almost 3 whopping months! 415 hours * $7.25 = $3000 zomg (That's even assuming that all our poor coders get the minimum wage!) 3. Am I missing something here? Right now, I could come up with several possible explanation: FPA is really only suited for bigger projects (1000+ FPs) so it becomes extremely inaccurate at smaller scale. The hours/FP metric fluctuates abruptly from team to team, project to project. For a small project like this, we could have used something like 0.5 hour/FP or something. (Now this kind of makes the whole estimation thing pointless, unless my firm does the same type of projects for several years with the same team, not really common.) From my experience with several software metrics, Function Point is really not a lightweight metric. If the hour/FP thing fluctuates so much, then what's the point, maybe I could have gone with User Story Points which is a lot faster to get and arguably almost as uncertain. What would be the FP experts' answers to this?

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