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  • Hard drive write speed - finding a lighter antivirus?

    - by Shingetsu
    I recently have been getting a lot of system lag here (for example, the mouse and the display in general take about 15 seconds to react in the worst cases). After a lot of monitoring the resources, I found that the problem mainly happens when too much Disk I/O is being done. Three culprits have been identified: My browser had the highest write I/O with 35,000,000 I/O Write Bytes. Steam had the highest read I/O (when IDLE!!!) with 106,000,000 I/O Read Bytes. My antivirus (in both cases I will soon mention) was the runner up in both cases with: 30,000,000ish write and 80,000,000ish read. The first AV I had was Avast! which I had liked on my previous system. After noticing it taking so much I/O I switched to Panda (supposing it wouldn't use TOO much during idle phase). However it only used a bit less I/O. Just a lot less memory and cpu and somewhat more network. My browser at the moment is Maxthon 3 (which I like a lot). Before this I was running chrome which had similar data and much higher cpu when running in the background was enabled. I'm not going to be running steam all the time and there aren't many alternatives to it. I like my browser very much, but I AM willing to switch if there's an obvious problem (I'm in programming, however I'm not a very good sysadmin, especially not when it comes to windows). Finally, my system almost stops lagging when I turn off the antivirus (and preferably steam) (some remains but once in every 5-6 hours for a few seconds so it isn't a big problem). My question (has a few parts): Is it possible to configure steam to lower it's I/O usage? (and maybe network while we're at it?) Which antivirus (very preferably free) uses lowest I/O while idle (I leave PC alone during active scans so that isn't a problem). Is there an obvious problem with my current browser and, if so, is there a way to fix it or should I switch and, if so, to what? (P.S. I've been on FFox for some time too). Info on system: Windows 7 (32 bit T_T, I am getting a new one in a few months but I want to keep using system during that time though). Hard Drive (main) is a Raid0. (Also have an external 1TB one which contains steam (and steam alone). As such it doesn't get used by much anything other than steam and isn't a very large problem. However steam still uses some I/O of registry) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU [email protected] RAM: 6GB (3.25GB usable) (this and CPU have little effect as shown in next section) Additional info: Memory usage during problematic times: 44% CPU usage during problematic times: 35% Page File: main drive: system managed. 1TB drive: none. The current system I'm using is about 6 years old and is mainly a place holder while I await the new one in a few months. Final words: this is my 1st post on Super User (this question wouldn't feel right on Stack Overflow where I usually stay). If it doesn't have it's place here please tell me. If anything is wrong with it, same. Edit Technically I'm looking for a live thread detection program with minimal IO usage. I already have good active scan capability: Kaspersky (the free scanner uses the paid database) and MalwareBytes. Edit 2 Noticed another one, it seems that windows media player has been using stuff even when off! Turning it off and restarting now. If the problem is fixed I'll tell you guys. The reason I didn't notice it before was because I didn't have resource manager in front of me at the MOMENT of the problem. Now I did and it was at the very top of the list!

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  • Free antivirus solutions for Windows

    - by kristof
    What free antivirus solutions would you recommend? What are the limitations? What are the dangers of using free versions as opposed to paid solutions? E.g. are they less reliable? As mentioned by Tony, most of the free solutions are limited to personal use so the question will mainly focus on solutions for personal use. See if your antivirus of choice is already listed. Chances are it is. If you spot an answer that mentions one you already use, vote that up if you think it's a good solution. If you know of a feature or drawback not listed, or can include experiences in dealing with it, please edit the answer accordingly. If you know of any that can also be used at work please point this out. This covers all Windows platforms from XP, Vista and Windows 7. If you see an existing entry that needs an update or to add your testimonial, please do.

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  • Getting rid of a trojan. SVCHOST question

    - by MasterPeter
    My antivirus keeps notifying me of a trojan. svchost.exe keeps creating some 'drivers' (.sys files in the drivers directory under system32 of my Windows XP installation) each of which is marked as Bubnix.AB trojan. The antivirus fails to remove many of the files as they are immediately used by svchost (I presume). How do I find out which service is the culprit? Why can't the antivirus effectively rid me of this plague? Also, how many svchost processes is it normal to have running at any one time? I am using Win XP SP3, and ESET NOD32 antivirus.

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  • Boot time virus scan from USB drive

    - by Tomas Sedovic
    I want to check for viruses on a computer that I suspect may be infected with malware. Its users are running an antivirus, but there's always the risk that something slips past and the way I see it, once the system is infected the antivirus is useless because the malware can hide itself from the AV. I think the best way to go (besides clean reinstall of the OS) would be to have an antivirus running at a boot time from a CD or a USB key. That way, the malware is just lying on the disk and cannot do any of its hide-and-seek stuff (provided the AV comes from an uninfected PC and all that). So, I'm looking for something that: Runs at boot time (off USB key or CD-ROM) Does not touch or require the local OS Discovers malware fairly well (like, Avast, AVG, Norton, whatever -- I think the're all the same anyway) Can handle Windows filesystems (FAT 32, NTFS, WinFS ;-) ) Comes from some sort of trusted source (no Windows Antivirus 2009) I know that this is no silver bullet (nothing is, really*), but I do have a feeling it's more likely to help than doing the scan* within the infected system.

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  • Free Antivirus solution for Windows

    - by Veejay
    I have a few Windows Vista and XP machines. Can you suggest me a free antivirus and Internet Security solution for them. I searched the internet and got a few options, but if you have used some free AV solutions, please share. I do not want to use Microsoft Security Essentials or Avira.

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  • http, https and ftp is not working but smtp and imap is working

    - by Unicron
    hi all, yesterday on a computer of a friend a strange thing happened. after booting the ports fo http, https and ftp are closed but e-mail is still working. in the control panel the windows firewall seems active even if he tries to deactivate it. i have a suspision that it is the faul of norton internet security 2010, we have tried to uninstall it, but the uninstallation did not work. when using the removal tool from symantec it just goes to 23% and then it crashes. the process ccSvcHst.exe is still running. how can i safeley remove the rest of norton internet security? thanks in advance [edit] norton internet security 2010 is sucesfully removed, but still no connectivity

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  • HTTP, HTTPS and FTP is not working but SMTP and IMAP are working.

    - by nWorx
    Yesterday on a computer of a friend a strange thing happened. after booting the ports fo http, https and ftp are closed but e-mail is still working. in the control panel the windows firewall seems active even if he tries to deactivate it. I have a suspision that it is the faul of norton internet security 2010, we have tried to uninstall it, but the uninstallation did not work. when using the removal tool from symantec it just goes to 23% and then it crashes. the process ccSvcHst.exe is still running. How can I safely remove the rest of Norton Internet Security? Edit: Norton Internet Security 2010 is sucesfully removed, but still no connectivity...

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  • Should I upgrade to Symantec Endpoint Protection? [closed]

    - by Alex C.
    I'm the IT manager at an animal shelter in Upstate New York. We have a Windows network with about 50 desktops running Windows XP Pro. We used to use CA eTrust Antivirus, but that product didn't work too well (too many infections got through). About six months ago, we switched to using Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition ver. 10.1.8.8000. If anything, the Symantec product is even worse. The last six weeks in particular have been very bad -- we've had about seven or eight PCs get hit with those malware infections that masquerade as antivirus software. In most of those cases, Symantec didn't even flag the malware at all. So... what gives with the Symantec Antivirus? As far as I can tell, it's installed correctly and downloading updated definitions nightly. I can upgrade to Symantec Endpoint Protection for $220 (we get non-profit pricing), but I don't want to do it if it's not going to be significantly better. Any advice? Should I switch to something else entirely? Thanks!

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  • How do I find information about a particular trojan? "W32/Smalltroj.XVGT", as reported by Norman

    - by Lasse V. Karlsen
    I tried checking the Norman antivirus page, Virus-descriptions, but sadly it seems Norman has intentionally obfuscated their search results (I tried clicking on W, and it seems they just list viruses with a W somewhere in the description, instead of more typical, all viruses with a name starting with a W.) Is there a common virus-list somewhere, or is it as I suspect, every antivirus manufacturer is free to come up with their own identification tags for each virus? Several "vshost32.exe" files, related to Microsoft Visual Studio 2008, has been quarantined on our server today, probably related to a test-deployment of some internal software. Some developer machines that have grabbed that latest version of our program has also had the same files quarantined. Now, these files should not have been deployed in the first case, so I'll be looking into that, but whenever any developer now builds a program locally and attempts to debug, the same file is placed in the build output directory, and promptly quarantined. Does anyone have any clues as to how I can go about verifying this before I pointedly ask the antivirus software to go take a hike on this particular virus? Edit: I've copied one of the quarantined files manually to a machine over the network that doesn't have antivirus installed, and compared the file on that machine with a local copy (on that machine) of the vshost32.exe template file, and they're bit-for-bit identical. I guess this is a false positive. I still would like to know if it would be possible for me to verify this in any other way though, since next time such a trojan might be reported in a compiled file that we won't have a pristine copy of.

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  • Should I upgrade to Symantec Endpoint Protection?

    - by Alex C.
    I'm the IT manager at an animal shelter in Upstate New York. We have a Windows network with about 50 desktops running Windows XP Pro. We used to use CA eTrust Antivirus, but that product didn't work too well (too many infections got through). About six months ago, we switched to using Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition ver. 10.1.8.8000. If anything, the Symantec product is even worse. The last six weeks in particular have been very bad -- we've had about seven or eight PCs get hit with those malware infections that masquerade as antivirus software. In most of those cases, Symantec didn't even flag the malware at all. So... what gives with the Symantec Antivirus? As far as I can tell, it's installed correctly and downloading updated definitions nightly. I can upgrade to Symantec Endpoint Protection for $220 (we get non-profit pricing), but I don't want to do it if it's not going to be significantly better. Any advice? Should I switch to something else entirely? Thanks!

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  • How do I scan my windows partition for viruses from Ubuntu?

    - by Alvar
    I think I might have a virus on my windows partition and I want to scan it Ubuntu. Is this possible? I would like a program that is free. clamAV I tried clamAV but I couldn't find a setting for scaning my other partition that I have windows on, it scaned my Ubuntu disk and that was fine. Antivirus Within Windows I can't use my Windows partition since the virus make my laptop freeze every time I log in. And I don't want it to spread or make more damage than it might have done already.

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  • What are the technial and programming requirements for writing a stealth keylogger?

    - by user970533
    I'm planning to write/code one such stealth keylogger that would bypass detection by a certain antivirus. (I don't want to name the vendor as I know how good Google queries are against StackExchange websites). I don't want to just download any keylogger from internet and try to encode it to evade detection. Writing code myself I would have the ability to make changes as I go; obscuration on both high-level and low-level language. I like control too. It seems naive but is it true that keyloggers are a thing of the past, probably because of how effective AV's have become in detecting such programs? I want some nice points on how can one easily write a robust, effective key logger preferably for a Windows environment?

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  • Problem in my terminal related clamav

    - by Hejar Hejar
    Recently I decided to use Avast Antivirus. I uninstalled clamav and installed Avast. Now whenever I use my terminal I get the following errors.: 5 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/1,250 kB of archives. After this operation, 5,120 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y (Reading database ... dpkg: warning: files list file for package `clamav-daemon' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. dpkg: warning: files list file for package `python-pyclamav' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. dpkg: warning: files list file for package `clamav-base' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. dpkg: warning: files list file for package `clamav-freshclam' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. dpkg: warning: files list file for package `libclamav6' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. dpkg: warning: files list file for package `python-clamav' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. (Reading database ... 554940 files and directories currently installed.) Please help. Thank you

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  • "Windows cannot find" file when opening Excel spreadsheet

    - by DanH
    For all of my Excel spreadsheets when I attempt to open them (by double-clicking in explorer) I get the message "Windows cannot find C:...". The files are there, and are valid zip files as seen by 7-Zip. There are no apparent lock files in the directories. I did just install Norton-360 over the weekend (replacing Kasperski), but the Norton log shows no events related to Excel. However, while installing Norton I did reboot with some Excel files open. Presumably something is hosed in my Excel configuration but I don't know what. Update (Before actually posting) -- I found an article that suggested turning off Advanced Option "Ignore other applications that use DDE", then doing excel.exe /unregister followed by excel.exe /register. I tried this but I suspect that the two Excel calls were ignored (Excel opened, but no obvious change). With that option off the spreadsheets load OK, but not with it on. And, curiously, spreadsheets load OK with the option on or off if I open Excel first and then open the spreadsheet in it. Does anyone have any idea what effect leaving that option off will have? Update 2 -- I tried running the "repair" option. It said it corrected a couple of config things (without saying what they were), but I still get a failure if I double-click an Excel file with the "Ignore other applications..." option checked. Update 3 -- I managed to fix this problem, but failed at the time to come back and say what I did, and now I can't remember for sure. But I think it had something to do with "Options"/"Save" and some of the values there. Something to do with AutoRecover, perhaps. (Possibly there was a file in recovery and I had to specify "Disable AutoRecover for this workbook" to let bring-up get past it. Or perhaps the AutoRecover file location was hosed.) Anyway, if it happens to someone else, and you find the fix, post it below and I'll mark it answered.

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  • Is there any special way to force GoBack to work with Windows Vista and 7?

    - by dfree
    Norton/Roxio's GoBack doesn't work with Vista/7 for reasons unknown. I have tried several alternatives (Norton Ghost, RollbackRX, Norton Save and Restore), none of which offer the same functionality as GoBack. Not only does GoBack not eat up all your hard drive space while creating a legitimate fail safe for any pc problems, it also allows you to see ACTIVELY EXACTLY WHAT PROCESS ARE BEING EXECUTED ON YOUR COMPUTER. This feature (called Advanced Disk Drive Restore) also allows you to troubleshoot problems and determine causes for things in about half a second by seeing what is happening on your machine. It's how I learned everything I know about computers. GoBack also features something called Safe Try Mode where you can put it in SafeTry and then mess up the whole computer and when you come out of it, your computer will be exactly how it was before. Amazing for people who like to tinker without risking their machine stability. It also helps for that accidentally erased paper or whatever you may have erased. I believe GoBack installs a type44 partition around the drive, which loads prior to windows to allow this functionality. If you're going to recommend another program, please don't (unless it does all of the above). I've tried all the competition and nothing is as good. I just want my GoBack to work with 7 :) Any ideas of crazy ways to make this work?

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  • unable to copy file to folder, permission denied without explanation

    - by ValekHalfHeart
    Recently Norton Internet security deleted ml.exe (an assembler I use to program in masm32) off of my computer, thinking that one of the programs I had written with it was a virus (it was most certainly not). Fortunately, I had a copy of ml.exe backed up in an external hard drive, and tried to copy it over to my computer. The old ml.exe was located in C:\masm32\bin, so I tried to copy the new one to that location. After disabling Norton (which had opened the folder and preventing me from accessing it), I am still unable to copy the new file to C:\masm32\bin. When I tried, Windows announced that I would need Administrator permission to copy the file. Since I'm an admin, I figured this wouldn't be a problem although it was unexpected, as I have never had to provide administrator permission to access this folder before. However, instead of prompting me to enter my password, Windows simply refuses to copy the file: I repeat, I was not asked to provide a password. It simply says that I do not have permission. Does anyone know what's happening and how to fix it? Is Norton still causing problems, or it something else?

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  • Norton Ghost EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available.

    - by Breck Carter
    After about 15 minutes, a Norton Ghost 14 backup fails with Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. The source computer is a P4 laptop running Windows XP SP3. The target computer is a Core2 Quad desktop running Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit. It does not help to disable Norton 360 on the source computer or Norton Antivirus 2008 on the target computer. The Event Viewer consistently shows the same two VSS-related errors after Norton Ghost starts but before it fails. It makes no difference if the VSS service is started or stopped. The VSS errors do not appear elsewhere in the event log, only after Ghost starts. The MSS event messages, however, are quite common, appearing throughout the log, and they may have nothing to do with the problem. Here is the Norton Ghost error display... -Errors exist. --Unable to write to file. ---Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. ---Unable to set file size. ----Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. ----Unable to write to file. -----Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. -----Unable to set file size. ------Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. Here are the source computer events, with the final error at the top and the "Ghost Starting" message at the bottom: ===== Event Type: Error Event Source: Norton Ghost Event Category: High Priority Event ID: 100 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:40:26 AM User: N/A Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Error EC8F17B7: Cannot create recovery points for job: Drive Backup of (C:\) (3). Error E7D1001F: Unable to write to file. Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. Error E7D10046: Unable to set file size. Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. Error E7D1001F: Unable to write to file. Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. Error E7D10046: Unable to set file size. Error EBAB03F1: The specified network name is no longer available. Details: 0xEBAB0005 Source: Norton Ghost ===== Event Type: Information Event Source: MSSQL$SQLEXPRESS Event Category: Server Event ID: 3421 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:34:06 AM User: NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Recovery completed for database ReportServer$SQLEXPRESSTempDB (database ID 6) in 1 second(s) (analysis 205 ms, redo 0 ms, undo 376 ms.) This is an informational message only. No user action is required. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 5d 0d 00 00 0a 00 00 00 ]....... 0008: 15 00 00 00 50 00 41 00 ....P.A. 0010: 56 00 49 00 4c 00 49 00 V.I.L.I. 0018: 4f 00 4e 00 32 00 5c 00 O.N.2.\. 0020: 53 00 51 00 4c 00 45 00 S.Q.L.E. 0028: 58 00 50 00 52 00 45 00 X.P.R.E. 0030: 53 00 53 00 00 00 18 00 S.S..... 0038: 00 00 52 00 65 00 70 00 ..R.e.p. 0040: 6f 00 72 00 74 00 53 00 o.r.t.S. 0048: 65 00 72 00 76 00 65 00 e.r.v.e. 0050: 72 00 24 00 53 00 51 00 r.$.S.Q. 0058: 4c 00 45 00 58 00 50 00 L.E.X.P. 0060: 52 00 45 00 53 00 53 00 R.E.S.S. 0068: 00 00 .. ===== Event Type: Information Event Source: MSSQL$SQLEXPRESS Event Category: Server Event ID: 17137 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:34:02 AM User: NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Starting up database 'ReportServer$SQLEXPRESSTempDB'. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: f1 42 00 00 0a 00 00 00 ñB...... 0008: 15 00 00 00 50 00 41 00 ....P.A. 0010: 56 00 49 00 4c 00 49 00 V.I.L.I. 0018: 4f 00 4e 00 32 00 5c 00 O.N.2.\. 0020: 53 00 51 00 4c 00 45 00 S.Q.L.E. 0028: 58 00 50 00 52 00 45 00 X.P.R.E. 0030: 53 00 53 00 00 00 18 00 S.S..... 0038: 00 00 52 00 65 00 70 00 ..R.e.p. 0040: 6f 00 72 00 74 00 53 00 o.r.t.S. 0048: 65 00 72 00 76 00 65 00 e.r.v.e. 0050: 72 00 24 00 53 00 51 00 r.$.S.Q. 0058: 4c 00 45 00 58 00 50 00 L.E.X.P. 0060: 52 00 45 00 53 00 53 00 R.E.S.S. 0068: 00 00 .. ===== Event Type: Error Event Source: VSS Event Category: None Event ID: 5013 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:28:32 AM User: N/A Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Shadow Copy writer ContentIndexingService called routine RegQueryValueExW which failed with status 0x80070002 (converted to 0x800423f4). For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 57 53 48 43 4f 4d 4e 43 WSHCOMNC 0008: 32 32 39 32 00 00 00 00 2292.... 0010: 57 53 48 43 49 43 00 00 WSHCIC.. 0018: 32 38 37 00 00 00 00 00 287..... ===== Event Type: Error Event Source: VSS Event Category: None Event ID: 5013 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:28:32 AM User: N/A Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Shadow Copy writer ContentIndexingService called routine RegQueryValueExW which failed with status 0x80070002 (converted to 0x800423f4). For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 57 53 48 43 4f 4d 4e 43 WSHCOMNC 0008: 32 32 39 32 00 00 00 00 2292.... 0010: 57 53 48 43 49 43 00 00 WSHCIC.. 0018: 32 38 37 00 00 00 00 00 287..... ===== Event Type: Error Event Source: VSS Event Category: None Event ID: 12302 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:28:32 AM User: N/A Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Volume Shadow Copy Service error: An internal inconsistency was detected in trying to contact shadow copy service writers. Please check to see that the Event Service and Volume Shadow Copy Service are operating properly. For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 42 55 45 43 58 4d 4c 43 BUECXMLC 0008: 33 36 33 37 00 00 00 00 3637.... 0010: 42 55 45 43 58 4d 4c 43 BUECXMLC 0018: 33 36 30 37 00 00 00 00 3607.... ===== Event Type: Information Event Source: Norton Ghost Event Category: High Priority Event ID: 100 Date: 11/09/2009 Time: 9:27:57 AM User: N/A Computer: PAVILION2 Description: Info 6C8F1F63: The drive-based backup job, Drive Backup of (C:\) (3), has been started manually. Details: Source: Norton Ghost

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  • Install Nod32 antivirus silently?

    - by IT Tech
    Hi guys/gals, I was hoping that I could find someone on here that may know if it is possible to install Nod32 on a client PC silently. We have some software that will copy the MSI to the remote PC and run it with any specified parameters. The software needs you to import the license key file and tell it where the server is. Is there any way that these details can be pre specified so the user doesn't have to have any interaction on the remote computer. Many thanks in advance.

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  • Windows 7 security and Avast antivirus turned off by themself

    - by Simon Verbeke
    I was just browsing around when at once I got messages that UAC, windows defender, Avast, etc. got turned off, without me doing anything. Then my PC turned by itself. I'm now running virus scans and I checked my eventlogs, but found nothing yet. Windows Update also failed to install a new definition after I rebooted. Any idea what this could've been? EDIT: Forgot to mention that everything was turned on again after rebooting. I have since the reboot got nothing abnormal.

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  • Les développeurs détestent-ils les antivirus ? Un programmeur manifeste sa haine envers ces solutions de sécurité

    Les développeurs détestent-ils les antivirus ? Un programmeur manifeste sa haine envers ces solutions de sécurité « Je déteste les antivirus ». C'est par ces mots que Alex Yumashev, un développeur .NET révèle dans un billet de blog pourquoi il déteste les antivirus. Ces logiciels dont la mission principale est l'identification, la neutralisation et la suppression des programmes malveillants sont quelques fois des sources de problèmes pour les développeurs lors des tests ou de l'utilisation de leurs applications qui sont identifiées comme des menaces. Ymashev explique que malgré la signature de son application avec un certificat de confiance Verisign, malgré qu'elle ait été ...

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  • Trojan Horse Generic.15.apnz Virus Impossible to get rid of?!

    - by DaveDev
    Hi Guys I'm new to this forum so I'm unsure whether this is the right place for a question like this. I have a Trojan Horse infection that lives in memory and seems to be impossible to get rid of. I've tried a vew AntiVirus products (Norton, Windows Essentials & AVG Free) all to no avail & I've recently tried a few bootable antivirus solutions I found here: http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/ Kaspersky Rescue Disk 2008 (failed - it wouldn't even load the UI, is there a newer one out there?) F Secure Rescue Disk (Updates & Scanner ran, found 10 infections, said it was going to delete or repair them, but didn't get rid of them) Avira found a load of infections but it froze when I tried to interact with the UI after the scan. Every time I run these I'll load Windows after & run AVG, and it still finds Trojan Horse Generic.15.apnz (in Services.exe) & Trojan Horse Generic.16.ARSU (in svchost.exe) Is anyone familiar with a virus like this? Can anyone suggest how to approach a solution? Thanks Dave

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