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  • apt-get upgrade E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

    - by user292425
    When I typed apt-get install upgrade, I got error: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Setting up linux-netizen (1.0.1-1) ... chrome: no process found dpkg: error processing linux-netizen (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: linux-netizen E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) So I tried some method to fix it: sudo apt-get install -f and sudo apt-get install --configure -a But all methods are not working. Please help me....

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  • My site will not process Credit Cards [closed]

    - by user654389
    Authorized.net was processing my credit card purchases until the end of Feb. As of 3/1/2011 they no longer will process electronic cigarette transactions. Processing network told us we would have a seamless transition over to a processor called EPN. Now we can not process and credit card orders at all. I have been told it's an SSL concern (EPN says no) I have been told it's an issue between Authorized.net and EPN again I am told no. Might site worked and functioned fine until the "seamless" transition took place. Please help me out here. Thanks Dave

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  • Heartbeat won't successfully start up resources from a cold boot when a failed node is present

    - by Matthew
    I currently have two ubuntu servers running Heartbeat and DRBD. The servers are directory connected with a 1000Mbps crossover cable on eth1 and have access to an IP camera LAN on eth0. Now, let's say that one node is down and the remaining functional node is booting after having been shut down. The node that is still functioning won't start up heartbeat and provide access to the drbd resource from a cold boot. I have to manually restart heartbeat by sudo service heartbeat restart to get everything up and running. How can I get it to start fine from a cold start, when only one server is present? Here is the ha.cf: debug /var/log/ha-debug logfile /var/log/ha-log logfacility none keepalive 2 deadtime 10 warntime 7 initdead 60 ucast eth1 192.168.2.2 ucast eth0 10.1.10.201 node EMserver1 node EMserver2 respawn hacluster /usr/lib/heartbeat/ipfail ping 10.1.10.22 10.1.10.21 10.1.10.11 auto_failback off Some material from the syslog: harc[4604]: 2012/11/27_13:54:49 info: Running /etc/ha.d//rc.d/status status mach_down[4632]: 2012/11/27_13:54:49 info: /usr/share/heartbeat/mach_down: nice_failback: foreign resources acquired mach_down[4632]: 2012/11/27_13:54:49 info: mach_down takeover complete for node emserver2. Nov 27 13:54:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Initial resource acquisition complete (T_RESOURCES(us)) Nov 27 13:54:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: mach_down takeover complete. IPaddr[4679]: 2012/11/27_13:54:49 INFO: Resource is stopped Nov 27 13:54:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4605]: info: Local Resource acquisition completed. harc[4713]: 2012/11/27_13:54:49 info: Running /etc/ha.d//rc.d/ip-request-resp ip-request-resp ip-request-resp[4713]: 2012/11/27_13:54:49 received ip-request-resp IPaddr::10.1.10.254 OK yes ResourceManager[4732]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 info: Acquiring resource group: emserver1 IPaddr::10.1.10.254 drbddisk::r0 Filesystem::/dev/drbd1::/shr::ext4 nfs-kernel-server IPaddr[4759]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: Resource is stopped ResourceManager[4732]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/IPaddr 10.1.10.254 start IPaddr[4816]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: Using calculated nic for 10.1.10.254: eth0 IPaddr[4816]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: Using calculated netmask for 10.1.10.254: 255.255.255.0 IPaddr[4816]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: eval ifconfig eth0:0 10.1.10.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.1.10.255 IPaddr[4804]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: Success ResourceManager[4732]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/drbddisk r0 start Filesystem[4965]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: Resource is stopped ResourceManager[4732]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/Filesystem /dev/drbd1 /shr ext4 start Filesystem[5039]: 2012/11/27_13:54:50 INFO: Running start for /dev/drbd1 on /shr Filesystem[5033]: 2012/11/27_13:54:51 INFO: Success ResourceManager[4732]: 2012/11/27_13:54:51 info: Running /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start Nov 27 13:55:00 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Local Resource acquisition completed. (none) Nov 27 13:55:00 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: local resource transition completed. Nov 27 13:57:46 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Heartbeat shutdown in progress. (4586) Nov 27 13:57:46 EMserver1 heartbeat: [5286]: info: Giving up all HA resources. ResourceManager[5301]: 2012/11/27_13:57:46 info: Releasing resource group: emserver1 IPaddr::10.1.10.254 drbddisk::r0 Filesystem::/dev/drbd1::/shr::ext4 nfs-kernel-server ResourceManager[5301]: 2012/11/27_13:57:46 info: Running /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop ResourceManager[5301]: 2012/11/27_13:57:46 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/Filesystem /dev/drbd1 /shr ext4 stop Filesystem[5372]: 2012/11/27_13:57:46 INFO: Running stop for /dev/drbd1 on /shr Filesystem[5372]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 INFO: Trying to unmount /shr Filesystem[5372]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 INFO: unmounted /shr successfully Filesystem[5366]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 INFO: Success ResourceManager[5301]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/drbddisk r0 stop ResourceManager[5301]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/IPaddr 10.1.10.254 stop IPaddr[5509]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 INFO: ifconfig eth0:0 down IPaddr[5497]: 2012/11/27_13:57:47 INFO: Success Nov 27 13:57:47 EMserver1 heartbeat: [5286]: info: All HA resources relinquished. Nov 27 13:57:48 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing /usr/lib/heartbeat/ipfail process group 4603 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBFIFO process 4589 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBWRITE process 4590 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBREAD process 4591 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBWRITE process 4592 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBREAD process 4593 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBWRITE process 4594 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBREAD process 4595 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBWRITE process 4596 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBREAD process 4597 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBWRITE process 4598 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: killing HBREAD process 4599 with signal 15 Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4589 exited. 11 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4596 exited. 10 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4598 exited. 9 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4590 exited. 8 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4595 exited. 7 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4591 exited. 6 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4592 exited. 5 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4593 exited. 4 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4597 exited. 3 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4594 exited. 2 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: Core process 4599 exited. 1 remaining Nov 27 13:57:49 EMserver1 heartbeat: [4586]: info: emserver1 Heartbeat shutdown complete. Here is some more from the log ResourceManager[2576]: 2012/11/28_16:32:42 info: Acquiring resource group: emserver1 IPaddr::10.1.10.254 drbddisk::r0 Filesystem::/dev/drbd1::/shr::ext4 nfs-kernel-server IPaddr[2602]: 2012/11/28_16:32:42 INFO: Running OK Filesystem[2653]: 2012/11/28_16:32:43 INFO: Running OK Nov 28 16:32:52 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: WARN: node emserver2: is dead Nov 28 16:32:52 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Dead node emserver2 gave up resources. Nov 28 16:32:52 EMserver1 ipfail: [1807]: info: Status update: Node emserver2 now has status dead Nov 28 16:32:52 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Link emserver2:eth1 dead. Nov 28 16:32:53 EMserver1 ipfail: [1807]: info: NS: We are still alive! Nov 28 16:32:53 EMserver1 ipfail: [1807]: info: Link Status update: Link emserver2/eth1 now has status dead Nov 28 16:32:55 EMserver1 ipfail: [1807]: info: Asking other side for ping node count. Nov 28 16:32:55 EMserver1 ipfail: [1807]: info: Checking remote count of ping nodes. Nov 28 16:32:57 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Heartbeat shutdown in progress. (1695) Nov 28 16:32:57 EMserver1 heartbeat: [2734]: info: Giving up all HA resources. ResourceManager[2751]: 2012/11/28_16:32:57 info: Releasing resource group: emserver1 IPaddr::10.1.10.254 drbddisk::r0 Filesystem::/dev/drbd1::/shr::ext4 nfs-kernel-server ResourceManager[2751]: 2012/11/28_16:32:57 info: Running /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop ResourceManager[2751]: 2012/11/28_16:32:57 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/Filesystem /dev/drbd1 /shr ext4 stop Filesystem[2829]: 2012/11/28_16:32:57 INFO: Running stop for /dev/drbd1 on /shr Filesystem[2829]: 2012/11/28_16:32:57 INFO: Trying to unmount /shr Filesystem[2829]: 2012/11/28_16:32:58 INFO: unmounted /shr successfully Filesystem[2823]: 2012/11/28_16:32:58 INFO: Success ResourceManager[2751]: 2012/11/28_16:32:58 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/drbddisk r0 stop ResourceManager[2751]: 2012/11/28_16:32:58 info: Running /etc/ha.d/resource.d/IPaddr 10.1.10.254 stop IPaddr[2971]: 2012/11/28_16:32:58 INFO: ifconfig eth0:0 down IPaddr[2958]: 2012/11/28_16:32:58 INFO: Success Nov 28 16:32:58 EMserver1 heartbeat: [2734]: info: All HA resources relinquished. Nov 28 16:32:59 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing /usr/lib/heartbeat/ipfail process group 1807 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBFIFO process 1777 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBWRITE process 1778 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBREAD process 1779 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBWRITE process 1780 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBREAD process 1781 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBWRITE process 1782 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBREAD process 1783 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBWRITE process 1784 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBREAD process 1785 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBWRITE process 1786 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: killing HBREAD process 1787 with signal 15 Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1778 exited. 11 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1779 exited. 10 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1780 exited. 9 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1781 exited. 8 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1782 exited. 7 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1783 exited. 6 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1784 exited. 5 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1785 exited. 4 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1786 exited. 3 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1787 exited. 2 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: Core process 1777 exited. 1 remaining Nov 28 16:33:01 EMserver1 heartbeat: [1695]: info: emserver1 Heartbeat shutdown complete. If I restarted heartbeat at this point... the resources heartbeat controls would start up fine.... please help!

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  • Apache error: could not make child process 25105 exit, attempting to continue anyway

    - by Temnovit
    Hello! I have a web server based on Ubuntu Server 9.10 with this software: apache 2 PHP 5.3 MySQL 5 Python 2.5 Few of my websites are PHP based, few use python/django through mod_wsgi. For month or so, every day my apache server stops responding until I manually restart it. Error logs show: [Fri Mar 05 17:06:47 2010] [error] could not make child process 25059 exit, attempting to continue anyway [Fri Mar 05 17:06:47 2010] [error] could not make child process 25061 exit, attempting to continue anyway [Fri Mar 05 17:06:47 2010] [error] could not make child process 24930 exit, attempting to continue anyway [Fri Mar 05 17:06:47 2010] [error] could not make child process 25084 exit, attempting to continue anyway [Fri Mar 05 17:06:47 2010] [error] could not make child process 25105 exit, attempting to continue anyway and so on. I tried to google this problem but it seems, that I can't find a solution there. How can I determine the cause of this error and how do I fix it? Thank you for your help. UPDATE Updating mod-wsgi to version 3.1 didn't solve the problem Updating PHP to 5.3 also didn't solve it Here is a list of all installed modules: core mod_log_config mod_logio prefork http_core mod_so mod_alias mod_auth_basic mod_authn_file mod_authz_default mod_authz_groupfile mod_authz_host mod_authz_user mod_autoindex mod_cgi mod_deflate mod_dir mod_env mod_mime mod_negotiation mod_php5 mod_rewrite mod_setenvif mod_status mod_wsgi Here's how my virtual host with wsgi looks: <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName example.net DocumentRoot /var/www/example.net #wcgi script that serves all the thing WSGIScriptAlias / /var/www/example.net/index.wsgi WSGIDaemonProcess example user=wsgideamonuser group=root processes=1 threads=10 WSGIProcessGroup example Alias /static /var/www/example.net/static #serving admin files Alias /media/ /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/django/contrib/admin/media/ <Location "/static"> SetHandler None </Location> <Location "/media"> SetHandler None </Location> ErrorLog /var/www/example.net/error.log </VirtualHost> Error log now contains two types of errors fallowed one by another: [error] child process 9486 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [error] could not make child process 9106 exit, attempting to continue anyway

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  • What exactly is a Deamon ? ( how to run a root command from apache binded script that uses www-data user )?

    - by user224235
    I am trying to run this command from WSGI script service httpd restart The problem is this command can only be run by root and apache uses the www-data user. it has been said the solution is to use a Deamon Process i suppose the idea is to send the command to a file that will be executed by a script that is considered "root" user.. its difficult to understand why they would call this a Deamon Process and try to scare me. Perhaps it should have been called : proxy process when i got the idea that this was a proxy process.. i thought about adding a line to /var/spool/cron/root that way the cron would execute the command for me. but of course this means i have to get the system time and then add 1 second to it and then add it to that line so cron would execute the command for me as root but my script demands an output instantly. so i suppose i need to create a DEAMON PROCESS that works like the cron. in other words it is a bash file that will execute the command in a plain file.. but will this DEAMON PROCESS be running a while command 24/7 every second ? would that not waste resources ? it only needs to activate itself to check for a command to execute when there is a command to be executed. i mean in PHP and other programming languages.. running a while statement when there is nothing to be executed could waste resources of the server.. so why should a deamon process constantly be listening for anything. i only want it to listen and execute when it is needed. i do not need a process that is constantly listening.

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  • Simplest way to respawn configured number of instances of a specific process.

    - by Zwei Steinen
    So we have an app. which we wan to run multiple instance of it in linux. The number should be configurable. We also want that whenever one of the instance disappears, a new one is booted up. I was looking into C based programs, shell script, python script etc. but I was wondering what would be the most simple, easiest way to do it. Are there any tools out there? Can one simply use some linux built-in functionality? Linux distribution is Red Hat.

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  • Making Agile and DevOps methodology compatible with PCI requirements

    - by kenchew
    Would like to hear from those working in a PCI compliance environment and is practicing agile development and devops methodology, how you maintain compliance with PCI requirements. Specifically, what do you do to address: separation of duties between development/test and production alignment of continuous integration / deployment and change control alignment of agile stories to requirement documentation

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  • SVN post commit stucks while starting process

    - by Oded
    Hi, I've built a script in VS that receives the 2 arguments sent by post-commit hook. The script runs SVN LOG to retrieve data about the revision (author, date, files). When I run the solution from VS with constant vars for the arguments, it runs perfectly. When I execute the exe file, also runs perfectly. When I implement the hook script, it fails where it should read from the process. process.Start(); process.WaitForExit(); str = process.StandardOutput.ReadToEnd(); process.WaitForExit(); if (!process.HasExited) { try { process.Kill(); } catch (Exception e3) { // process is terminated } // Write Errors } Thanks. EDIT: The commit window stucks and never completes the commit. I write the code in C#.... there is no errors shown...

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  • Execute multiple command lines with the same process using C#

    - by rima
    Hi according to my last question here I try to write a sql Editor or some thing like this,in this way I try to connect to CMD from C# and execute my command. now my problem is for example I connect to SQLPLUS after that I cant get SQLPLUS command,and the other resource I review don't satisfy me.Please help me how after I connected to Sqlplus ,I can a live my process to run my sql command? right now I use this code: //Create process System.Diagnostics.Process pProcess = new System.Diagnostics.Process(); //strCommand is path and file name of command to run pProcess.StartInfo.FileName = strCommand; //strCommandParameters are parameters to pass to program pProcess.StartInfo.Arguments = strCommandParameters; pProcess.StartInfo.UseShellExecute = false; //Set output of program to be written to process output stream pProcess.StartInfo.RedirectStandardOutput = true; //Optional pProcess.StartInfo.WorkingDirectory = strWorkingDirectory; //Start the process pProcess.Start(); //Get program output string strOutput = pProcess.StandardOutput.ReadToEnd(); //Wait for process to finish pProcess.WaitForExit(); but i customize it.I separate the initialize, i mean i just create process object one time,but I still have problem. to run the second command I use these codes for second time calling: pProcess.StartInfo.FileName = strCommand; //strCommandParameters are parameters to pass to program pProcess.StartInfo.Arguments = strCommandParameters; //Start the process pProcess.Start(); //Get program output string strOutput = pProcess.StandardOutput.ReadToEnd(); //Wait for process to finish pProcess.WaitForExit(); Thanks in advance

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  • Is there a simple Load Balancer app for development environment on Windows?

    - by djangofan
    Does there exist a simple Load Balancer app for development on Windows? I am running a pair of JBoss 5.x instances in a cluster on a single machine. Normally , this configuration is load balanced by a nice hardware load balancer but I am wondering if there is a simple piece of software to enable load balancing in my Eclipse dev environment. Basically, for example, I want a load balancer running on port 11111 that round-robins between the 2 clustered JBoss instances on ssl ports 8443 and 8543 . (or http port if thats not possible) I know that Glassfish has a built-in load balancer but I can't use Glassfish. One idea I have is to try to setup a separate instance of Tomcat with the "balancer" web app. Im trying that now... not sure if it will work... and its a complicated setup and I wish there was something really easy.

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  • Python Process won't call atexit

    - by Brian M. Hunt
    I'm trying to use atexit in a Process, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work. Here's some example code: import time import atexit import logging import multiprocessing logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG) class W(multiprocessing.Process): def run(self): logging.debug("%s Started" % self.name) @atexit.register def log_terminate(): # ever called? logging.debug("%s Terminated!" % self.name) while True: time.sleep(10) @atexit.register def log_exit(): logging.debug("Main process terminated") logging.debug("Main process started") a = W() b = W() a.start() b.start() time.sleep(1) a.terminate() b.terminate() The output of this code is: DEBUG:root:Main process started DEBUG:root:W-1 Started DEBUG:root:W-2 Started DEBUG:root:Main process terminated I would expect that the W.run.log_terminate() would be called when a.terminate() and b.terminate() are called, and the output to be something likeso (emphasis added)!: DEBUG:root:Main process started DEBUG:root:W-1 Started DEBUG:root:W-2 Started DEBUG:root:W-1 Terminated! DEBUG:root:W-2 Terminated! DEBUG:root:Main process terminated Why isn't this working, and is there a better way to log a message (from the Process context) when a Process is terminated? Thank you for your input - it's much appreciated.

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  • process tree

    - by Robert
    I'm looking for an easy way to find the process tree (as shown by tools like Process Explorer), in C# or other .Net language. It would also be useful to find the command-line arguments of another process (the StartInfo on System.Diagnostics.Process seems invalid for process other than the current process). I think these things can only be done by invoking the win32 api, but I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Thanks! Robert

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  • For web development which is more important - CPU and Graphics card OR Ram and SSD Harddrive?

    - by adam
    Buying a laptop is always hard work and questions about specific models dont age well on forums. A popular dilema (especially with apple macbooks) is whether to spend more for a faster cpu and graphics card but settle for standard ram and hd OR drop down and spend the savings on more ram and a faster harddrive such as a ssd. Im wondering for web development i.e. ide, unit tests, photoshop work and some user testing screen capturing now and again what would provide better performance. ( No games, music production or spielberg standard video editing.) For examples sake the current apple lineup for their 15inch macbookpros. 2.66 cpu i7 4gb ram 5400rpm drive 4gig ram vs 2.4 cpu i5 8gb ram 124gb sdd roughly the same price.

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