Are file access times not properly maintained in Mac OS X?
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I'm trying to determine how file access times are maintained by default in Mac OS X, as I'm trying to diagnose some odd behaviour I'm seeing in a new MBP Unibody (running Snow Leopard, 10.6.2):
The symptoms (drilling down to the specific behaviour that seems to be causing the issue):
- mutt is unable to switch to mailboxes which have recently received new mail
- mail is delivered by procmail, which updates the mtime of the mbox folder it is updating, but does not alter the atime (this is how new mail detection works: by comparing atime to mtime)
- however, both the mtime and atime of the mbox file is getting updated
Through testing, it does not appear that atimes
can be set separately in the filesystem:
: [ether@tequila ~]$; touch test
: [ether@tequila ~]$; touch -m -t 200801010000 test2
: [ether@tequila ~]$; touch -a -t 200801010000 test3
: [ether@tequila ~]$; ls -l test*
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:42 test
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Jan 1 2008 test2
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:43 test3
: [ether@tequila ~]$; ls -lu test*
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:42 test
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:43 test2
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:43 test3
The test2 file is created with an old mtime
, and the atime
is set to now (as it is a new file), which is correct. However, test3 is created with an old atime
, but is not set properly on the file. To be sure this is not just behaviour seen with new files, let's modify an old file:
: [ether@tequila ~]$; touch -a -t 200801010000 test
: [ether@tequila ~]$; ls -l test
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:42 test
: [ether@tequila ~]$; ls -lu test
-rw------- 1 ether staff 0 Dec 30 11:45 test
So it would seem that atimes cannot be set explicitly (it is always reset to "now" when either mtime
or atime
modifications are submitted).
Is this something inherent to the filesystem itself, is it something that can be changed, or am I totally crazy and looking in the wrong place?
PS. the output of mount
is:
: [ether@tequila ~]$; mount
/dev/disk0s2 on / (hfs, local, journaled)
devfs on /dev (devfs, local, nobrowse)
map -hosts on /net (autofs, nosuid, automounted, nobrowse)
map auto_home on /home (autofs, automounted, nobrowse)
...and Disk Utility says that the drive is of type "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)".
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