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• Is Joel Test really a good gauging tool?

  - by henry

  I just learned about Joel Test. I have been computer programmer for 22 years, but somehow never heard about it before. I consider my best job so far to be this small investment managing company with 30 employees and only 3 people in IT department. I am no longer with them but I had being working there for 5 years – my longest streak with any given…

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• Applicability of the Joel Test to web development companies

  - by dreftymac

  QUESTION: How can you re-write the questions of the Joel test to apply to web developers? 1. Do you use source control? (source control for all aspects of your app, including configuration, database and user-based settings?) 2. Can you make a build in one step? (can you deploy a site from staging to prod in 1 step?) ... 10. Do you…

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• Bare minimum on the Joel Test

  - by Fung

  From the Joel Test, of the 12, which do you think are the absolute must-haves to at least have a decently running software department/company? I realise there is no absolutely right answer. I'm just trying to get opinions of others out there. My own organization only manages a measly 5 of 12. If you check listings on Careers 2.0, most companies…

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• Should the Joel Test be essential for every software company? [closed]

  - by Mahbubur R Aaman

  Joel Test has 12 steps for better code. They are: Do you use source control? Can you make a build in one step? Do you make daily builds? Do you have a bug database? Do you fix bugs before writing new code? Do you have an up-to-date schedule? Do you have a spec? Do programmers have quiet working conditions? Do you use the best tools money can…

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• Is the Joel Test really a good gauging tool?

  - by henry

  I just learned about the Joel Test. I have been computer programmer for 22 years, but somehow I never heard about it before. I consider my best job so far to be this small investment managing company with 30 employees and only three people in the IT department. I am no longer with them, but I had being working there for five years – my…

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• Can an agile shop really score 12 on the Joel Test?

  - by Simon

  I really like the Joel test, use it myself, and encourage my staff and interviewees to consider it carefully. However I don't think I can ever score more than 9 because a few points seem to contradict the Agile Manifesto, XP and TDD, which are the bedrocks of my world. Specifically: the questions about schedule, specs, testers and…

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• Why did StackExchange fail & Joel take VC money?

  - by JakiT

  Why did StackExchange fail & Joel take VC money?

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• Can an agile shop every really score 12 on the Joel Test?

  - by Simon

  I really like the Joel test, use it myself, and encourage my staff and interviewees to consider it carefully. However I don't think I can ever score more than 9 because a few points seem to contradict the Agile Manifesto, XP and TDD, which are the bedrocks of my world. Specifically the questions about schedule, specs, testers and…

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• Wanted, Joel Spolsky Clone... slighty used acceptable

  - by SetiSeeker

  Hi All, First of all I have been playing with where to post my question(stackoverflow, meta.stackoverflow or here). So if this is the wrong place, my apologies to all. I love Joel Spolsky's website, Joel on Software. I love the way it mixes developer knowledge, with business knowledge and various other bits of info about,…

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• Was Joel right about XML being slow?

  - by Will

  A long time ago Joel explained how various every-day coding things were slow, and this led to XML as a data store being slow: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000319.html Are those every-day coding things - strcat and malloc - still slow in a std::string and dlmalloc world? What else has changed in modern…

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• Joel Spolsky Retires From Blogging in 3 Days

  - by andyleonard

  No it's not 1 Apr. Joel Spolsky ( Blog - @spolsky ) announced recently he is retiring from blogging 17 Mar 2010 . Reading Joel on Software always makes me think. Mr. Spolsky pioneered a writing style. Along the way he empowered developers, encouraging them to speak up about the manifold misconceptions of our trade. I…

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• How Microsoft Lost the API War - by Joel Spolsky

  - by TechTwaddle

  Came across another gem of an article by Joel Spolsky. It's a pretty old article written in June of 2004, has lot of tidbits and I really enjoyed reading it, so much in fact that I read it twice! So hit the link below and give it a read if you haven't already, How Microsoft Lost the API War - Joel Spolsky…

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• Anti-Joel Test

  - by Vaibhav Garg

  The Joel Test is a measure of how a team performs with regards to the best practices in coding. What questions, given a 'yes' answer, would subtract from the the Joel test score? (Assuming you don't simply negate the current questions on the 'Joel Test', ie: "Do you have no source control?") For example: …

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• Workflow for academic research projects, one-step builds, and the Joel Test

  - by Steve

  Working alone on academic research sometimes breeds bad habits. With no one else reading my code, I would write a lot of throw-away code, and I would lose track of intermediate results which, weeks or months later, I wish I had retained. My recent attempts to make my personal workflow conform to the Joel Test…

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• How would you answer Joel's sample programming questions?

  - by Khorkrak

  I recently interviewed a candidate for a new position here. I wish though that I'd read Joel's Guerrilla Guide to Interviewing prior to that interview - naturally I happened upon it the night afterwards :P http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/GuerrillaInterviewing3.html So I tried answering the easy…

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• Should maven generate jaxb java code or just use java code from source control?

  - by Peter Turner

  We're trying to plan how to mash together a build server for our shiny new java backend. We use a lot of jaxb XSD code generation and I was getting into a heated argument with whoever cared that the build server should delete jaxb created structures that were checked in generate the code from XSD's…

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• Can someone clarify what this Joel On Software quote means: (functional programs have no side effect

  - by Bob

  I was reading Joel On Software today and ran across this quote: Without understanding functional programming, you can't invent MapReduce, the algorithm that makes Google so massively scalable. The terms Map and Reduce come from Lisp and functional programming. MapReduce is, in…

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• Great Silverlight User Group meeting last night - Thanks Joel!

  - by Dave Campbell

  Last night's Silverlight User Group meeting in Phoenix went really well. We had about 15 in attendance, and everyone seemed engaged with Joel Neubeck's great Windows Phone 7 presentation. When it was over, we gave away a couple copies of Windows 7 Ultimate, one copy of the Expression Suite,…

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• Can an agile shop every really score 12 on the Joel Test? [closed]

  - by Simon

  Possible Duplicate: Can an agile shop every really score 12 on the Joel Test? I really like the Joel test, use it myself, and encourage my staff and interviewees to consider it carefully. However I don't think I can ever score more than 9 because a few points seem to contradict the…

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• how to hire the best programmers ?

  - by sh00

  I am going to apply Joel's method: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000073.html I'm curious if is there anybody that used this method of hiring for long periods of time. Any comment could be useful. Thanks.

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• Does anyone work for a company with a zero Joel Test Score?

  - by DVK

  I have seen mentions on SO of companies with low Joel Test Scores. Does anyone work (in a software developer role) for a company with a zero Joel Test Score? This excludes cases where you're the owner of the company :-) If so, what are your reasons for continuing to work for that…

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• beginning oop php question: do constructors take the place of getter?

  - by Joel

  I'm working through this tutorial: http://www.killerphp.com/tutorials/object-oriented-php/php-objects-page-3.php At first he has you create a setter and getter method in the class: <?php class person{ var $name; function set_name($new_name){ …

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• Can someone clarify what this Joel On Software quote means?

  - by Bob

  I was reading Joel On Software today and ran across this quote: Without understanding functional programming, you can't invent MapReduce, the algorithm that makes Google so massively scalable. The terms Map and Reduce come from Lisp and functional…

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• how to get 12 for joel test working in a small team of 3-4 on php website?

  - by keisimone

  Hi i read this inspired, i am asking for specific help to achieve a 12 for my current project. i am working in a team of 3-4 on a php project that is based on cakephp. i only have a dedicated server running on linux which i intend to have the website live…

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• What software did Joel use to get this type of drawing?

  - by overtherainbow

  Hello I have no graphic skills and would like to create drawings that look like this, ie. it gives the impression that it was hand-drawn rather than done with a computer. Do you know what Windows application lets users create drawings like this? PhotoShop +…

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