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  • Debug the StackOverFlow exception

    - by BDotA
    When I run my C# program it throws an Stack Overflow exception in one of the methods on a DLL that I have a reference to it in my solution. but no debugging info is available to me because it says it is an stack overflow exception and no info is available. what are the next debugging steps that I should follow to understand what is going on and why ? thanks Edit: here is the code that stops at: static public Collection SortCollection(Collection oCollection, string sPropertyName, string sKeyPropertyName) { return SortCollection(oCollection, sPropertyName, sKeyPropertyName); }

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  • Core Data - insertNewObjectForEntityForName debug

    - by Snow Crash
    I'm trying to figure out why insertNewObjectForEntityForName is not working. I assume it's something to do with my data model but can't be sure. Xcode does not report any errors nor does it crash. All I get is the first log statement output to the console. NSLog(@"Get here..."); Task *task = (Task *)[NSEntityDescription insertNewObjectForEntityForName:@"Task" inManagedObjectContext:insertionContext]; NSLog(@"but never get here..."); Any suggestions as to how I can work out what the problem is?

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  • How to debug ConcurrentModificationException?

    - by Dani
    I encountered ConcurrentModificationException and by looking at it I can't see the reason why it's happening; the area throwing the exception and all the places modifying the collection are surrounded by synchronized (this.locks.get(id)) { ... } // locks is a HashMap<String, Object>; I tried to catch the the pesky thread but all I could nail (by setting a breakpoint in the exception) is that the throwing thread owns the monitor while the other thread (there are two threads in the program) sleeps. How should I proceed? What do you usually do when you encounter similar threading issues?

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  • My HTML5 web app crashes and I have no clue how to debug

    - by Shouvik
    Hi All, I have written a word game using HTML5 canvas tag and a little bit of audio. I developed the application on the chrome web browser on a linux system. Recently during the testing phase it was tried on safari 5.0.3 on Mac and the webpage froze. Not just the canvas element, but interactive element on the page froze. I have at some times experienced this problem on google chrome when I was developing but since the console did not throw any error before this happened, I did not give it much credence. Now as per requirements I am supposed to support both chrome and safari but this dismal performance on safari has left me shocked and I cannot see what error can be thrown which might lead to such a situation. Worse yet the CPU usage on using this application peaks to 70-80percent on my 2yr old macbook running ubuntu... I can only but pity the person who uses mac to operate this app, which undoubtedly is a heavier OS. Could someone help me out with a place I can start with to find out what exactly is causing this issue. I have run profiles on this webapp on google chromes console and noticed that in the heap spanshot value increases steadily with the playing of the game, specifically (root) value which jumps up by 900 counts. Any help would be very appreciated! Thanks EDIT: I don't know if this helps, but I have noticed that even on refreshing the page after the app becomes unresponsive the page reloads and I am still not able to interact with the page elements but the tab scroll bar continues to work and I can see my application window completely. So to summaries the tab stops accepting any sort of user interaction inside the page. Edit2: Nop. It doesn't work still... The app crashes on double click on the canvas element. The console is not throwing any errors either! =/ I have noticed this problem is isolated only to safari!

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  • Editing code in Visual Studio 2008 in debug mode

    - by user279521
    I am curious to know if there is a way to edit code in VS 2008 right when it has hit a breakpoint and I am walking thru the code... can I modify the code (such as the value in a variable or if my stepthrough line is about to hit an if statement ... can I modify the if statement....etc)? So far, I have to stop running VS, modify the code, then hit F5 and wait till the breakpoint is hit again.

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  • How to debug ctypes call of c++ dll?

    - by aF
    Hello, in my python project I call a c++ dll using ctypes library. That c++ dll consists on a wrapper dll that calls methods of a c# com interop dll. Sometimes I have a COM exception. I like to see what it corresponds exactlly but I don't know how to do it? How can I attach the c++ debugger to this situation? Thanks in advance

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  • Error while debug (role redirection)

    - by Chris White
    What is wrong with my role redirection, protected void Login1_LoggedIn(object sender, EventArgs e) { { if (Roles.IsUserInRole(Login1.UserName, "Aemy")) Response.Redirect("~/Admin/Home.aspx"); else if (Roles.IsUserInRole(Login1.UserName, "User")) Response.Redirect("~/Welcome/User1.aspx"); } } Error : The name 'Roles' does not exist in the current context

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  • Problem with bluetooth on android 2.1 (samsung spica i5700) where pairing works but connection does

    - by user319634
    I have a Samsung Spica i5700 which I already have updated to Android 2.1. I am using the phone with an application called Run.GPS (http://www.rungps.net). This application logs data such as GPS position, route, speed, bearing etc. It can also log heartrate provided the user has a Zephyr HxM bluetooth heart rate monitor ("HxM"), which I do have. I can pair the HxM to the phone through the standard bluetooth utility. I'm prompted for the PIN, which I enter and the device is shown as 'Paired but not connected'. In the Run.GPS application itself, I click on 'Connect Heartrate Monitor'. This times out after about 30 seconds and the error message is 'Could not connect to heartrate monitor. Please try other settings'. I used a friend's HTC Windows Mobile as a control device to see if the HxM works there. It does. The Run.GPS application automatically sets the baud rate (initially to 9600 IIRC, though the connection also worked with higher baud rates) and it is possible to choose between various COM ports as well as a .Net COM port. I did some testing on my Spica Android, to try to find out why the bluetooth connection doesn't work. Below are some log files that I connected over adb when I clicked on 'Connect to Heartrate Monitor' in the Run.GPS application. I would be interested in any tips (including if I'm posting to the wrong forum here ;-)) - whether or not it's possible to experiment with the baud rate in Android etc. I still don't know if the problem is with the Run.GPS application (I've posted already on the development forum there) or with Android 2.1. I checked out another application - Endomondo - which is also a sport tracking application which supports heartrate monitor only with the HxM. There, what looked like exactly the same error occurred - I clicked on 'Connect Zephyr HxM'. For a few seconds I was shown the 'Connecting...' status, but then it timed out into 'Not Connected'. I'm thus tending towards looking at Android for the problem. Here's the output of adb logcat while trying to connect ./adb logcat | grep Run.GPS D/WYNEX> (11551): Excute :: Run.GPS Trainer UV, (null) E/Run.GPS (11997): Cannot connect to BT device E/Run.GPS (11997): java.io.IOException: Service discovery failed E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket$SdpHelper.doSdp(BluetoothSocket.java:374) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.bluetooth.BluetoothSocket.connect(BluetoothSocket.java:184) E/Run.GPS (11997): at ju.a(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at qk.j(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at fs.c(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at le.a(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at s.b(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at pb.a(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at as.a(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at am.b(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at gf.onTouchEvent(Unknown Source) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.view.View.dispatchTouchEvent(View.java:3709) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchTouchEvent(ViewGroup.java:884) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchTouchEvent(ViewGroup.java:884) E/Run.GPS (11997): at com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow$DecorView.superDispatchTouchEvent(PhoneWindow.java:1665) E/Run.GPS (11997): at com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow.superDispatchTouchEvent(PhoneWindow.java:1107) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.app.Activity.dispatchTouchEvent(Activity.java:2061) E/Run.GPS (11997): at com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow$DecorView.dispatchTouchEvent(PhoneWindow.java:1649) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.view.ViewRoot.handleMessage(ViewRoot.java:1694) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:99) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123) E/Run.GPS (11997): at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:4363) E/Run.GPS (11997): at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method) E/Run.GPS (11997): at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:521) E/Run.GPS (11997): at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:860) E/Run.GPS (11997): at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:618) E/Run.GPS (11997): at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method) E/Run.GPS (11997): Cannot connect to BT device E/Run.GPS (11997): java.io.IOException: Service discovery failed Here's the output of dmesg while trying to connect the heartrate monitor <4>[74726.239833] select 11691 (.serviceModeApp), adj 15, size 3205, to kill <4>[74726.240741] select 11739 (com.wssnps), adj 15, size 3207, to kill <4>[74726.246870] select 11750 (id.partnersetup), adj 15, size 3219, to kill <4>[74726.253390] select 11857 (p.bluetoothicon), adj 15, size 3299, to kill <4>[74726.259879] select 13131 (ndroid.settings), adj 15, size 4586, to kill <4>[74726.266372] send sigkill to 13131 (ndroid.settings), adj 15, size 4586 <7>[74733.945097] [BT] GPIO_BT_WAKE = 1 <7>[74733.945121] [BT] wake_lock(bt_wake_lock) <7>[74733.951799] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 1 <7>[74733.951822] [BT] wake_lock timeout = 5 sec <7>[74735.890196] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 0 <7>[74736.150987] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 1 <7>[74736.151009] [BT] wake_lock timeout = 5 sec <7>[74737.490185] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 0 <7>[74740.073913] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 1 <7>[74740.073948] [BT] wake_lock timeout = 5 sec <7>[74741.315336] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 0 <7>[74743.249747] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 1 <7>[74743.249768] [BT] wake_lock timeout = 5 sec <7>[74744.865099] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 0 <7>[74745.154487] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 1 <7>[74745.154509] [BT] wake_lock timeout = 5 sec <7>[74748.852534] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 0 <7>[74749.156256] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 1 <7>[74749.156278] [BT] wake_lock timeout = 5 sec <7>[74750.490018] [BT] GPIO_BT_HOST_WAKE = 0 <4>[74754.230424] select 11691 (.serviceModeApp), adj 15, size 3191, to kill <4>[74754.231326] select 11739 (com.wssnps), adj 15, size 3193, to kill <4>[74754.237473] select 11750 (id.partnersetup), adj 15, size 3205, to kill <4>[74754.243950] select 11857 (p.bluetoothicon), adj 15, size 3283, to kill <4>[74754.250452] select 13140 (com.svox.pico), adj 15, size 3465, to kill <4>[74754.256787] send sigkill to 13140 (com.svox.pico), adj 15, size 3465

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  • Need Java https proxy which can be enhanced to emulate production https proxy behaviour

    - by Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
    I have a production environment which require access through a proxy server. Occasionally said server returns blank responses badly confusing the Metro web service library causing all kinds of interesting RuntimeExceptions. I believe the proxy is Squid. In order to handle these better, I would like to set up a similar scenario here with a local proxy under my control causing all kinds of interesting failures. A quick survey strongly indicated I was not asking right. So, the question is, is there a simple, open source HTTPS/HTTP whatever proxy written in Java suitable for this purpose?

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  • Debugging: Attach to Process for Console App running inside cmd.exe

    - by Chris
    How do you "Attach to Process..." for a console application thats running from a CMD window and not launched by F5? The reason I ask is because the application takes command line arguments and I want to have a genuine experience. I've even attaching to CMD.exe, but no luck, or setting a break-point using Console.ReadKey() with also no luck. I'm kind of at a loss here. Is this possible?

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  • How to view Session Variables in Visual Studio 2008 Debugger?

    - by davemackey
    Usually using Visual Studio's debugger is a breeze. Scanning through Locals quickly shows the values of variables, etc. However, I'm at a loss how to find out the values contained in session state variables? Can anyone give me a hand? Lets say I put a breakpoint right after: Session("first_name") = "Rob Roy" How do I view the value contained in Session("first_name") from locals?

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  • how to print map value in gdb

    - by Davit Siradeghyan
    Hi all I have a std::map< std::string, std::string cont; I want to see cont[ "some_key" ] in gdb. When I'm trying p cont[ "some_ket" ] I'm getting this message: One of the arguments you tried to pass to operator[] could not be converted to what the function wants. I'm using GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.3.0.0-1.162.el4rh). Thanks

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  • Visual Studio project using the Quality Center API remains in memory

    - by Traveling Tech Guy
    Hi, Currently developing a connector DLL to HP's Quality Center. I'm using their (insert expelative) COM API to connect to the server. An Interop wrapper gets created automatically by VStudio. My solution has 2 projects: the DLL and a tester application - essentially a form with buttons that call functions in the DLL. Everything works well - I can create defects, update them and delete them. When I close the main form, the application stops nicely. But when I call a function that returns a list of all available projects (to fill a combo box), if I close the main form, VStudio still shows the solution as running and I have to stop it. I've managed to pinpoint a single function in my code that when I call, the solution remains "hung" and if I don't, it closes well. It's a call to a property in the TDC object get_VisibleProjects that returns a List (not the .Net one, but a type in the COM library) - I just iterate over it and return a proper list (that I later use to fill the combo box): public List<string> GetAvailableProjects() { List<string> projects = new List<string>(); foreach (string project in this.tdc.get_VisibleProjects(qcDomain)) { projects.Add(project); } return projects; } My assumption is that something gets retained in memory. If I run the EXE outside of VStudio it closes - but who knows what gets left behind in memory? My question is - how do I get rid of whatever calling this property returns? Shouldn't the GC handle this? Do I need to delve into pointers? Things I've tried: getting the list into a variable and setting it to null at the end of the function Adding a destructor to the class and nulling the tdc object Stepping through the tester function application all the way out, whne the form closes and the Main function ends - it closes, but VStudio still shows I'm running. Thanks for your assistance!

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  • maps, iterators, and complex structs - STL errors

    - by Austin Hyde
    So, I have two structs: struct coordinate { float x; float y; } struct person { int id; coordinate location; } and a function operating on coordinates: float distance(const coordinate& c1, const coordinate& c2); In my main method, I have the following code: map<int,person> people; // populate people map<int,map<float,int> > distance_map; map<int,person>::iterator it1,it2; for (it1=people.begin(); it1!=people.end(); ++it1) { for (it2=people.begin(); it2!=people.end(); ++it2) { float d = distance(it1->second.location,it2->second.location); distance_map[it1->first][d] = it2->first; } } However, I get the following error upon build: stl_iterator_base_types.h: In instantiation of ‘std::iterator_traits<coordinate>’: stl_iterator_base_types.h:129: error: no type named ‘iterator_category’ in ‘struct coordinate’ stl_iterator_base_types.h:130: error: no type named ‘value_type’ in ‘struct coordinate’ stl_iterator_base_types.h:131: error: no type named ‘difference_type’ in ‘struct coordinate’ stl_iterator_base_types.h:132: error: no type named ‘pointer’ in ‘struct coordinate’ stl_iterator_base_types.h:133: error: no type named ‘reference’ in ‘struct coordinate’ And it blames it on the line: float d = distance(it1->second.location,it2->second.location); Why does the STL complain about my code?

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  • how to print std::map value in gdb

    - by Davit Siradeghyan
    Hi all I have a std::map< std::string, std::string cont; I want to see cont[ "some_key" ] in gdb. When I'm trying p cont[ "some_ket" ] I'm getting this message: One of the arguments you tried to pass to operator[] could not be converted to what the function wants. I'm using GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.3.0.0-1.162.el4rh). Thanks

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  • Why "menus" unit is finalized too early?

    - by Harriv
    I tested my application with FastMM and FullDebugMode turned on, since I had some shutdown problems. After solving bunch of my own problems FastMM started to complain about calling virtual method on a freed object in TPopupList. I tried to move the menus unit as early as possible in uses so that it would be finalized last, but it didn't help. Is this real problem, a bug in vcl or false alarm from FastMM? Here's the full report from FastMM: FastMM has detected an attempt to call a virtual method on a freed object. An access violation will now be raised in order to abort the current operation. Freed object class: TPopupList Virtual method: Offset +16 Virtual method address: 4714E4 The allocation number was: 220 The object was allocated by thread 0x1CC0, and the stack trace (return addresses) at the time was: 403216 [sys\system.pas][System][System.@GetMem][2654] 404A4F [sys\system.pas][System][System.TObject.NewInstance][8807] 404E16 [sys\system.pas][System][System.@ClassCreate][9472] 404A84 [sys\system.pas][System][System.TObject.Create][8822] 7F2602 [Menus.pas][Menus][Menus.Menus][4223] 40570F [sys\system.pas][System][System.InitUnits][11397] 405777 [sys\system.pas][System][System.@StartExe][11462] 40844F [SysInit.pas][SysInit][SysInit.@InitExe][663] 7F6368 [PCCSServer.dpr][PCCSServer][PCCSServer.PCCSServer][148] 7C90DCBA [ZwSetInformationThread] 7C817077 [Unknown function at RegisterWaitForInputIdle] The object was subsequently freed by thread 0x1CC0, and the stack trace (return addresses) at the time was: 403232 [sys\system.pas][System][System.@FreeMem][2699] 404A6D [sys\system.pas][System][System.TObject.FreeInstance][8813] 404E61 [sys\system.pas][System][System.@ClassDestroy][9513] 428D15 [common\Classes.pas][Classes][Classes.TList.Destroy][2914] 404AB3 [sys\system.pas][System][System.TObject.Free][8832] 472091 [Menus.pas][Menus][Menus.Finalization][4228] 4056A7 [sys\system.pas][System][System.FinalizeUnits][11256] 4056BF [sys\system.pas][System][System.FinalizeUnits][11261] 7C9032A8 [RtlConvertUlongToLargeInteger] 7C90327A [RtlConvertUlongToLargeInteger] 7C92AA0F [Unknown function at towlower] The current thread ID is 0x1CC0, and the stack trace (return addresses) leading to this error is: 4714B8 [Menus.pas][Menus][Menus.TPopupList.MainWndProc][3779] 435BB2 [common\Classes.pas][Classes][Classes.StdWndProc][11583] 7E418734 [Unknown function at GetDC] 7E418816 [Unknown function at GetDC] 7E428EA0 [Unknown function at DefWindowProcW] 7E428EEC [Unknown function at DefWindowProcW] 7C90E473 [KiUserCallbackDispatcher] 7E42B1A8 [DestroyWindow] 47CE31 [Controls.pas][Controls][Controls.TWinControl.DestroyWindowHandle][6857] 493BE4 [Forms.pas][Forms][Forms.TCustomForm.DestroyWindowHandle][4564] 4906D9 [Forms.pas][Forms][Forms.TCustomForm.Destroy][2929] Current memory dump of 256 bytes starting at pointer address 7FF9CFF0: 2C FE 82 00 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 C4 A3 2D 0C 00 00 00 00 B1 D0 F9 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 16 32 40 00 9D 5B 40 00 C8 5B 40 00 CE 82 40 00 3C 40 91 7C B0 B1 94 7C 0A 77 92 7C 84 77 92 7C 7C F0 96 7C 94 B3 94 7C 84 77 92 7C C0 1C 00 00 32 32 40 00 12 5B 40 00 EF 69 40 00 BA 20 47 00 A7 56 40 00 BF 56 40 00 A8 32 90 7C 7A 32 90 7C 0F AA 92 7C 0A 77 92 7C 84 77 92 7C C0 1C 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 35 65 59 2C FE 82 00 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 38 CA 9A A6 80 80 80 80 80 80 00 00 00 00 51 D1 F9 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C1 00 00 00 16 32 40 00 9D 5B 40 00 C8 5B 40 00 CE 82 40 00 3C 40 91 7C B0 B1 94 7C 0A 77 92 7C 84 77 92 7C 7C F0 96 7C 94 B3 94 7C 84 77 92 7C , þ ‚ . € € € € € € € € € € € € € € € € Ä £ - . . . . . ± Ð ù . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . À . . . . 2 @ . [ @ . È [ @ . Î ‚ @ . < @ ‘ | ° ± ” | . w ’ | „ w ’ | | ð – | ” ³ ” | „ w ’ | À . . . 2 2 @ . . [ @ . ï i @ . º G . § V @ . ¿ V @ . ¨ 2 | z 2 | . ª ’ | . w ’ | „ w ’ | À . . . . . . . . . . . Ç 5 e Y , þ ‚ . € € € € € € € € € € 8 Ê š ¦ € € € € € € . . . . Q Ñ ù . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Á . . . . 2 @ . [ @ . È [ @ . Î ‚ @ . < @ ‘ | ° ± ” | . w ’ | „ w ’ | | ð – | ” ³ ” | „ w ’ | I'm using Delphi 2007 and FastMM 4.97.

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  • Debugging MinGW program with gdb on Windows, not terminating at assert failure

    - by devil
    How do I set up gdb on window so that it does not allow a program with assertion failure to terminate? I intend to check the stack trace and variables in the program. For example, running this test.cpp program compiled with MinGW 'g++ -g test.cpp -o test' in gdb: #include <cassert> int main(int argc, char ** argv) { assert(1==2); return 0; } Gives: $ gdb test.exe GNU gdb 6.8 Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-mingw32"... (gdb) r Starting program: f:\code/test.exe [New thread 4616.0x1200] Error: dll starting at 0x77030000 not found. Error: dll starting at 0x75f80000 not found. Error: dll starting at 0x77030000 not found. Error: dll starting at 0x76f30000 not found. Assertion failed: 1==2, file test.cpp, line 2 This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information. Program exited with code 03. (gdb) I would like to be able to stop the program from terminating immediately, like how Visual Studio's debugger and gdb on Linux does it. I have done a search and found some stuff on trapping signals but I can't seem to find a good post on how to set up gdb to do this.

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  • XCode 3.2 - make emulator to open in iPhone mode

    - by Dmitry Khalatov
    I've installed XCode 3.2 on top of Snow Leopard 10.6.2. When trying to "build and run" an application created from XCode template, the emulator is always opened in iPad mode. When choosing "iPhone" from the emulator menu, it changes its look but next time it is opened as iPad again. How to cause the emulator to run in iPhone mode ?

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  • xdebug for PHP 5.2 on Windows 7 64bit

    - by Jonathan Day
    Hi all, Previous posters have linked to http://fusionxlan.com/PHPx64.php to install 64-bit capable versions of xdebug. I need PHP 5.2 compatibility for Magento, and fusionxlan has disappeared and archive.org doesn't have a copy. Does anyone have a copy of the fusionxlan download or dll that they can share? Thanks, JD

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  • unable to connect to ASP.Net development server issue

    - by George2
    Hello everyone, I am debugging codeplex simple project = http://www.codeplex.com/sl2videoplayer. I am using VSTS 2008 + C# + Windows Vista x86 Enterprise. I have not modified any code of this codeplex project, and just press F5 to run VideoPlayerWeb project. The current issue I met with is error message -- "Unable to connect to ASP.Net Development Server". Here is my screen snapshots when clicking F5. Any ideas what is wrong? http://i42.tinypic.com/15xs6jd.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/2d8rf3t.jpg thanks in advance, George

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