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  • C# : Direct3D in a control, AND fullscreen on a secondary monitor - what's the best way ?

    - by Led
    I'm working on a C# application that needs to use Direct3D in a control in a windows form, AND (at the same time) fullscreen on a secondary monitor. Basically, I want a Windows Forms application on one screen with a user-interface to control the graphics, and I'd like to show preview-graphics in a small control, and full-blown superduper megafancy graphics fullscreen on a secondary monitor. What's the best way to approach this? (For example, I know XNA can render in a Windows Forms control, but is it possible to then add a fullscreen window on another monitor as well?)

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  • Programmatic resource monitoring per process in Linux

    - by tuxx
    Hi, I want to know if there is an efficient solution to monitor a process resource consumption (cpu, memory, network bandwidth) in Linux. I want to write a daemon in C++ that does this monitoring for some given PIDs. From what I know, the classic solution is to periodically read the information from /proc, but this doesn't seem the most efficient way (it involves many system calls). For example to monitor the memory usage every second for 50 processes, I have to open, read and close 50 files (that means 150 system calls) every second from /proc. Not to mention the parsing involved when reading these files. Another problem is the network bandwidth consumption: this cannot be easily computed for each process I want to monitor. The solution adopted by NetHogs involves a pretty high overhead in my opinion: it captures and analyzes every packet using libpcap, then for each packet the local port is determined and searched in /proc to find the corresponding process. Do you know if there are more efficient alternatives to these methods presented or any libraries that deal with this problems?

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  • Php miniserver downloader bandwidth

    - by snikolov
    $httpsock = @socket_create_listen("9090"); if (!$httpsock) { print "Socket creation failed!\n"; exit; } while (1) { $client = socket_accept($httpsock); $input = trim(socket_read ($client, 4096)); $input = explode(" ", $input); $input = $input[1]; $fileinfo = pathinfo($input); switch ($fileinfo['extension']) { default: $mime = "text/html"; } if ($input == "/") { $input = "index.html"; } $input = ".$input"; if (file_exists($input) && is_readable($input)) { echo "Serving $input\n"; $contents = file_get_contents($input); $output = "HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\nServer: APatchyServer\r\nConnection: close\r\nContent-Type: $mime\r\n\r\n$contents"; } else { //$contents = "The file you requested doesn't exist. Sorry!"; //$output = "HTTP/1.0 404 OBJECT NOT FOUND\r\nServer: BabyHTTP\r\nConnection: close\r\nContent-Type: text/html\r\n\r\n$contents"; $filename = "dada"; $file = fopen($filename, 'r'); $filesize = filesize($filename); $buffer = fread($file, $filesize); $send = array("Output"=$buffer,"filesize"=$filesize,"filename"=$filename); $file = $send['filename']; $filesize = $send['filesize']; $output = 'HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\n'; $output .= "Content-type: application/octet-stream\r\n"; $output .= 'Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="'.$file.'"\r\n'; $output .= "Content-Length:$filesize\r\n"; $output .= "Accept-Ranges: bytes\r\n"; $output .= "Cache-Control: private\n\n"; $output .= $send['Output']; $output .= "Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary"; $output .= "Connection: Keep-Alive\r\n"; } socket_write($client, $output); socket_close ($client); } socket_close ($httpsock); Hello i have create a code here to work as a webserver downloader the client can request files and download, i got it working at last however, i would like to know if the webserver can show much bandwidth the user request via sockets, perl has the same option as php but its more hardcore than php, i dont understand much about perl, i even saw that a miniwebserver can show much the client user pulls from the server would it be possible that you can assist me with this coding, i much aprreciate it thank you guys.

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  • How I can get information about the scrollbars of an Webbrowser control instance or the IE Webrowser?

    - by Salvador
    I need to get information about the scrollbars (position, size, visibility) of a Webbrowser control of an external application, I tried using the GetScrollBarInfo function from my previous question, but the function always return false, I checked this function with another applications and works fine , but not with the IE or the Webbrowser control. So how I can get information about the scrollbars of an Webbrowser control instance or the IE Webbrowser?

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  • C# Console Application: Preventing Control-C from being printed?

    - by Alan
    Hi. I have a console app, and I want to capture Control-C and shutdown gracefully. I have the following code: Console.CancelKeyPress += new ConsoleCancelEventHandler((o, e) => { Logger.Log("Control+C hit. Shutting down."); resetEvent.Set(); }); And the output windows shows: 6/16/2010 3:24:34 PM: Control+C hit. Shutting down. ^C Is there a way to prevent the control-c character ^C from appearing? It's not a huge deal, but for some reason Ill be fixated on it because I'm anal like that.

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  • PHP- Curl Download Bandwidth Limiting

    - by snikolov
    Hey guys, I have been trying to limit the bandwidth with PHP. Can you please help here? I can't get the download rate to be limited with PHP. Thanks a million! function total_filesize($url) { $ch = curl_init(); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_URL, "$url"); curl_setopt($ch, CURLINFO_SPEED_DOWNLOAD,12); //ITS NOT WORKING! curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_USERAGENT, "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) ". "Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11"); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_FOLLOWLOCATION, TRUE); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_HEADER, false); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_NOBODY, true); $chStore = curl_exec($ch); $chError = curl_error($ch); $chInfo = curl_getinfo($ch); curl_close($ch); return $size = $chInfo['download_content_length']; } function __define_url($url) { $basename = basename($url); Define('filename',$basename); $define_file_size = total_filesize($url); Define('filesizes',$define_file_size); } function _download_file($url_file) { __define_url($url_file); // $range = "50000-60000"; $filesize = filesizes; $file = filename; header('Content-Type: application/octet-stream'); header('Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="'.$file.'"'); header('Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary'); header("Content-Length: $filesize"); $ch = curl_init(); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_URL,"$url_file"); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_BINARYTRANSFER,1); // curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RANGE,$range); curl_exec($ch); curl_close($ch); } _download_file('http://rarlabs.com/rar/wrar393.exe');

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  • Which is faster when animating the UI: a Control or a Picture?

    - by Christopher Walker
    /I'm working with and testing on a computer that is built with the following: {1 GB RAM (now 1.5 GB), 1.7 GHz Intel Pentium Processor, ATI Mobility Radeon X600 GFX} I need scale / transform controls and make it flow smoothly. Currently I'm manipulating the size and location of a control every 24-33ms (30fps), ±3px. When I add a 'fade' effect to an image, it fades in and out smoothly, but it is only 25x25 px in size. The control is 450x75 px to 450x250 px in size. In 2D games such as Bejeweled 3, the sprites animate with no choppy animation. So as the title would suggest: which is easier/faster on the processor: animating a bitmap (rendering it to the parent control during animation) or animating the control it's self?

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  • What are the most popular version control softwares and why?

    - by gnucom
    Hey Everyone, I'm an employee at a small company that is going to be launching a version control system soon and I'm trying to consider which software would best serve this company for version control. I wanted to get as many opinions as possible. Right now, I'm experimenting with Trac and Indefero running atop a SVN server. So my question is, what is the most popular/favorite version control software and why? ??t??!

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  • How do you store third party libraries in your source control?

    - by ajma
    How do you store third party libraries that you use in your project in your source control? When would you store binaries in your source control? When would you store the code in your source control? Would you ever store both? In what situations would you do this? (Btw, I'm using .NET but it doesn't really matter for this question)

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  • Best Design Pattern for Coupling User Interface Components and Data Structures

    - by szahn
    I have a windows desktop application with a tree view. Due to lack of a sound data-binding solution for a tree view, I've implemented my own layer of abstraction on it to bind nodes to my own data structure. The requirements are as follows: Populate a tree view with nodes that resemble fields in a data structure. When a node is clicked, display the appropriate control to modify the value of that property in the instance of the data structure. The tree view is populated with instances of custom TreeNode classes that inherit from TreeNode. The responsibility of each custom TreeNode class is to (1) format the node text to represent the name and value of the associated field in my data structure, (2) return the control used to modify the property value, (3) get the value of the field in the control (3) set the field's value from the control. My custom TreeNode implementation has a property called "Control" which retrieves the proper custom control in the form of the base control. The control instance is stored in the custom node and instantiated upon first retrieval. So each, custom node has an associated custom control which extends a base abstract control class. Example TreeNode implementation: //The Tree Node Base Class public abstract class TreeViewNodeBase : TreeNode { public abstract CustomControlBase Control { get; } public TreeViewNodeBase(ExtractionField field) { UpdateControl(field); } public virtual void UpdateControl(ExtractionField field) { Control.UpdateControl(field); UpdateCaption(FormatValueForCaption()); } public virtual void SaveChanges(ExtractionField field) { Control.SaveChanges(field); UpdateCaption(FormatValueForCaption()); } public virtual string FormatValueForCaption() { return Control.FormatValueForCaption(); } public virtual void UpdateCaption(string newValue) { this.Text = Caption; this.LongText = newValue; } } //The tree node implementation class public class ExtractionTypeNode : TreeViewNodeBase { private CustomDropDownControl control; public override CustomControlBase Control { get { if (control == null) { control = new CustomDropDownControl(); control.label1.Text = Caption; control.comboBox1.Items.Clear(); control.comboBox1.Items.AddRange( Enum.GetNames( typeof(ExtractionField.ExtractionType))); } return control; } } public ExtractionTypeNode(ExtractionField field) : base(field) { } } //The custom control base class public abstract class CustomControlBase : UserControl { public abstract void UpdateControl(ExtractionField field); public abstract void SaveChanges(ExtractionField field); public abstract string FormatValueForCaption(); } //The custom control generic implementation (view) public partial class CustomDropDownControl : CustomControlBase { public CustomDropDownControl() { InitializeComponent(); } public override void UpdateControl(ExtractionField field) { //Nothing to do here } public override void SaveChanges(ExtractionField field) { //Nothing to do here } public override string FormatValueForCaption() { //Nothing to do here return string.Empty; } } //The custom control specific implementation public class FieldExtractionTypeControl : CustomDropDownControl { public override void UpdateControl(ExtractionField field) { comboBox1.SelectedIndex = comboBox1.FindStringExact(field.Extraction.ToString()); } public override void SaveChanges(ExtractionField field) { field.Extraction = (ExtractionField.ExtractionType) Enum.Parse(typeof(ExtractionField.ExtractionType), comboBox1.SelectedItem.ToString()); } public override string FormatValueForCaption() { return string.Empty; } The problem is that I have "generic" controls which inherit from CustomControlBase. These are just "views" with no logic. Then I have specific controls that inherit from the generic controls. I don't have any functions or business logic in the generic controls because the specific controls should govern how data is associated with the data structure. What is the best design pattern for this?

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  • How can I selectively increase latency? E.g. throttle games

    - by Arcymag
    Basically, I want networked games to run poorly on a network, but I want everything else to run smoothly. I would also appreciate advice on blocking games in general. As far as I can tell, there's a few ways to completely prevent an internet game from running: Blocking entirely via DNS configuration (e.g. hosts file), or router DNS configuration Blocking entirely via a separate DNS server Blocking the application, by uninstalling or some kind of access control Blocking the application by automatically killing the process every once in a while Blocking the application by corrupting files periodically However, I would like a more subtle way to block a program. Something that either: Increases latency (would this be doable through some kind of QoS like what DD-WRT offers?) Increases latency by using a special routing configuration for specific target IPs Throttle other systems resources, such as memory, IO, or CPU Screw around with keyboard configurations when a game is launched I would like this to work on MacOSX and Windows, but Linux would be great too. FYI I don't have a kid, but I was brainstorming with some friends and parents.

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  • "The Controls collection cannot be modified because the control contains code blocks"

    - by Daniel P
    I am trying to create a simple user control that is a slider. When I add a AjaxToolkit SliderExtender to the user control I get this (*&$#()@# error: Server Error in '/' Application. The Controls collection cannot be modified because the control contains code blocks (i.e. <% ... %). Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Web.HttpException: The Controls collection cannot be modified because the control contains code blocks (i.e. <% ... %). Source Error: An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below. Stack Trace: [HttpException (0x80004005): The Controls collection cannot be modified because the control contains code blocks (i.e. <% ... %).] System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) +8677431 AjaxControlToolkit.ScriptObjectBuilder.RegisterCssReferences(Control control) in d:\E\AjaxTk-AjaxControlToolkit\Release\AjaxControlToolkit\ExtenderBase\ScriptObjectBuilder.cs:293 AjaxControlToolkit.ExtenderControlBase.OnLoad(EventArgs e) in d:\E\AjaxTk-AjaxControlToolkit\Release\AjaxControlToolkit\ExtenderBase\ExtenderControlBase.cs:306 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +50 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +141 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +141 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +141 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +141 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +141 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +141 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +627 Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3074; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.3074 I have tried putting a placeholder in the user control and adding the textbox and slider extender to the placeholder programmatically and I still get the error. Here is the simple code: <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td></td> <td> <asp:Label ID="lblMaxValue" runat="server" Text="Maximum" CssClass="float_right" /> <asp:Label ID="lblMinValue" runat="server" Text="Minimum" /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="width:60%;"> <asp:CheckBox ID="chkOn" runat="server" /><asp:Label ID="lblPrefix" runat="server" />:&nbsp;<asp:Label ID="lblSliderValue" runat="server" />&nbsp;<asp:Label ID="lblSuffix" runat="server" /> </td> <td style="text-align:right;width:40%;"> <asp:TextBox ID="txtSlider" runat="server" Text="50" style="display:none;" /> <ajaxToolkit:SliderExtender ID="seSlider" runat="server" BehaviorID="seSlider" TargetControlID="txtSlider" BoundControlID="lblSliderValue" Orientation="Horizontal" EnableHandleAnimation="true" Length="200" Minimum="0" Maximum="100" Steps="1" /> </td> </tr> </tbody> What is the problem? Thanks in advance. Dan

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  • The Image ASP.Net web server control

    - by nikolaosk
    In this post I will try to show you how to use the ImageMap web server control. This is going to be a very easy example. We will write no code but I will use the control to create navigation hotspots. 1) Launch Visual Studio 2010/2005/2008. Express editions will be fine. 2) Create a new asp.net empty web site and call it “ NavigationHotspot ”. 3) Drag and drop in the default.aspx page a ImageMap web server control from the Toolbox. 4) Let me explain what I did. I have an image that contains two flags...(read more)

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  • Oracle Developer Day: Provisioning und Patching mit Cloud Control

    - by Ralf Durben (DBA Community)
    Mit Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c Cloud Control und dem Lifecycle Management Pack können Sie Ihren Aufwand in den Bereichen Erstellung und Wartung von Oracle Datenbanken erheblich senken und so Ihre wertvolle Zeit wieder anderen Aufgaben widmen. Dieser Oracle Developer Day zeigt in einer halbtägigen Veranstaltung, wie Sie die Provisionierungs- und Patchinglösungen in Cloud Control für sich nutzen und so viel Zeit einsparen können. Dabei wird die Nutzung anhand von praktischen Beispielen erläutert. Themen dieser Veranstaltung sind: Grundlagen des Provisionings in Cloud Control Datenbank Provisioning Patching und Migration von Datenbanken Sicherheitsmodell rund um Deployment Prozeduren Provisionierung sonstiger Software Weitere Nutzungsmöglichkeiten von Deployment Prozeduren Veranstaltungszeit: 12:00 Uhr Networking Lunch13:00 Uhr Beginn der Präsentationen17:00 Uhr Ende der Veranstaltung Veranstaltungen: 08.10.2012  München10.10.2012  Frankfurt25.10.2012  Hamburg Die Teilnahme zu dieser Veranstaltung ist kostenlos. Anmelden können Sie sich mit einem Klick auf den Veranstaltungsort.

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  • Oracle Developer Day: Provisioning und Patching mit Cloud Control

    - by A&C Redaktion
    Mit Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c Cloud Control und dem Lifecycle Management Pack können Sie Ihren Aufwand in den Bereichen Erstellung und Wartung von Oracle Datenbanken erheblich senken und so Ihre wertvolle Zeit wieder anderen Aufgaben widmen. Dieser Oracle Developer Day zeigt in einer halbtägigen Veranstaltung, wie Sie die Provisionierungs- und Patchinglösungen in Cloud Control für sich nutzen und so viel Zeit einsparen können. Dabei wird die Nutzung anhand von praktischen Beispielen erläutert. Themen dieser Veranstaltung sind: Grundlagen des Provisionings in Cloud Control Datenbank Provisioning Patching und Migration von Datenbanken Sicherheitsmodell rund um Deployment Prozeduren Provisionierung sonstiger Software Weitere Nutzungsmöglichkeiten von Deployment Prozeduren Veranstaltungszeit: 12:00 Uhr Networking Lunch13:00 Uhr Beginn der Präsentationen17:00 Uhr Ende der Veranstaltung Veranstaltungen: 08.10.2012  München10.10.2012  Frankfurt25.10.2012  Hamburg Die Teilnahme zu dieser Veranstaltung ist kostenlos und Oracle Partner sind herzlich eingeladen. Anmelden können Sie sich mit einem Klick auf den Veranstaltungsort.

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  • Version control and personal configuration file

    - by Erel Segal Halevi
    Our project uses a user-specific configuration file. This file is currently not in version control, since it is different for each user. The problem is, whenever a developer adds a new module that requires configuration, or changes the name of an existing modules, the other developers get errors because their private configuration files are not updated. To solve the problem, we thought of working with two configuration files: a default/global configuration file that will be in version control and will be updated regularly by each developer that adds a new module, and a private configuration file that will be kept out of version control and will contain only the user-specific changes. However, this still seems like an ad-hoc solution. Can you propose a better solution? What do the professionals do?

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  • Create named criteria in EJB Data control

    - by shantala.sankeshwar
    This article gives the detailed steps on creating named criteria in EJB Data control.Note that this feature is available in Jdev version 11.1.2.0.0Use Case DescriptionSuppose we have defined an EJB Entity Object & we would like to filter the Entity object based on some criteria,then this filtering can be achieved by creating named criteria in EJB Data Control.Implementation stepsLet us suppose that we have created Java EE Web Application with Entities from Emp table Create session bean,generate data control for the same Edit empFindAll in DataControls.dcx fileCreate simple Named Criteria: deptno>=20Create on '+' icon to create Named Criteria:Refresh the Data Controls & create a new jspx page.Drop EmpCriteria as ADF Query Panel with TableRun the page,click on search button & we will see that Emp table shows filtered records

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  • ThinkPad fan control via procfs

    - by asebian
    My ThinkPad W500 used to crash sometimes under heavy load because the automatic control is not speeding up the fan far enough. But I was able to disengage the fan and let it run at full speed in Ubuntu 10.10. But this does not work in my new nice and shiny Ubuntu 11.10. Have a glimpse at fan control device. % ls -l /proc/acpi/ibm/fan -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-03-18 15:46 /proc/acpi/ibm/fan % cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan status: enabled speed: 3056 level: auto Now become super user in a fresh and clean environment and send control sequence. % exec sudo env -i bash -l $ echo 'level disengaged' >/proc/acpi/ibm/fan bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument What did I miss? Thanks for suggests.

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  • Retrieve .Net Control ID in Javascript

    - by Vipin
    Originally posted on: http://geekswithblogs.net/Vipin/archive/2013/07/24/retrieve-.net-control-id-in-javascript.aspxIf you need to retrieve a client ID of an asp:net control in a javascript function, then you can use the below function - function $$(id, context) { var el = $("#" + id, context); if (el.length < 1) el = $("[id$=_" + id + "]", context); return el; }   var tempDotNetControl = 'aspTextTemporary';   var ClientSideID = $$(aspTextTemporary); Please bear in mind, this function is useful if you want to retrieve client ID of a different DotNet control based on some condition, otherwise if it’s always static then you can just use <%= aspTextTemporary.ClientID %>"

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  • Error installing Package Control for Sublime Text 3 on Ubuntu 14.04

    - by user1837378
    This is the error. It comes up when I paste and enter the installation code (which I get from the Package Control website) and each time I open up Sublime Text. Package Control Your system's locale is set to a value that can not handle non-ASCII characters. Package Control can not properly work unless this is fixed. On Linux, please reference your distribution's docs for information on properly setting the LANG environmental variable. As a temporary work-around, you can launch Sublime Text from the terminal with: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sublime_text I had the same problem with Ubuntu 13.04 so it's probably not version-dependent.

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  • UbuntuGNOME 13.10 - Problem: Keyboard layout: Control L and Caps Lock swapped

    - by linuxubuntu
    I have a problem in UbuntuGNOME 13.10 which I didn't had in prior releases: I did a clean install and I don't know if it was already there or if I may have changed something, but my "Control L" and "Caps Lock" keys are swapped. How to swap them back? See also the attached image. http://i.imgur.com/PR1YB4T.jpg I swapped them back using but this is obviously not a proper fix $ cd ~ $ xmodmap -pke > .Xmodmap $ echo "remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L" >> .Xmodmap $ xmodmap .Xmodmap but the "Keyboard Layout Chart" program shows the keys still swapped. What's the reason for this? How to fix?

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  • Database Development and Source Control

    - by Enrique Lima
    I have been working with Database Development and the aspects that come with it, the pain and the joy of moving from Dev to QA and then on to Production.  Source Control has a place in Dev, and that is where the baselines should be established. Where am I going with this? I have been working with Redgate’s Source Control 3.0, and I am seeing some features that are great for the process of moving from Dev to … well something that allows for quite a level of control.  We are not only talking about scripting the structure of a database, but creating a baseline, working with migration scripts, and integrated with Redgate’s Schema Compare.  There is a detailed paper that will be posted here in the next day or so to provide step by step information of the process to define your baseline in Dev and then take it to the desired destination. In the meantime, check the Webinars Redgate has regarding this process and products.

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  • Answers to “What source control system do you use?” (and some winners)

    - by jamiet
    About a month ago I posed a question here on my blog SQL Server devs–what source control system do you use, if any? (answer and maybe win free stuff) in which I asked SQL Server developers to answer the following questions: Are you putting your SQL Server code into a source control system? If so, what source control server software (e.g. TFS, Git, SVN, Mercurial, SourceSafe, Perforce) are you using? What source control client software are you using (e.g. TFS Team Explorer, Tortoise, Red Gate SQL Source Control, Red Gate SQL Connect, Git Bash, etc…)? Why did you make those particular software choices? Any interesting anecdotes to share in regard to your use of source control and SQL Server? I had some really great responses (I highly recommend going and reading them). I promised that the five best, most thought-provoking, responses (as determined by me) would win one of five pairs of licenses for Red Gate SQL Source Control and Red Gate SQL Connect; here are the five that I chose (note that if you responded but did not leave a means of getting in touch then you weren’t considered for one of the prizes – sorry): In general, I don't think the management overhead and licensing cost associated with TFS is worthwhile if all you're doing is using source control. To get value from TFS, at a minimum you need to be using team build, and possibly other stuff as well, such as the sharepoint integration. If that's all you need, then svn with Tortoise would be my first choice. If you want to add build automation later, you can do this with cruisecontrol (is it still called that?), JetBrains, etc. For a long time I thought that Redgate's claims about "bridging the SSMS-VS divide" were a load of hot air, since in my experience anyone who knew what they were doing was using Visual Studio, in particular SSDT and its predecessors. However, on a recent client I was putting in source control for the first time, and I discovered that the "divide" really does exist. That client has ended up using svn with Redgate SQL Source Control, with no build automation, but with scope to add it in the future. Gavin Campbell I think putting the DB under source control is a great idea.  I have issues with the earlier versions of SQL Source Control in that it provides little help in versioning the DB. I think the latest version merges SQL Compare and SQL Source Control together.  Which is how it should have been all along. Sure I have the DB scripts in SVN, but I can't automate DB builds and changes without more tools.  Frankly I'm surprised databases don't have some sort of versioning built into them. Nick Portelli Source control has been immensely useful and saved me from a lot of rework on more than one occasion.  I have learned that you have to be extremely careful checking in data.  Our system is internal only so during the system production run once a week, if there is a problem that I can fix easily(for example, a control table points to a file in the wrong environment), I'll do it directly in production so the run can continue as soon as possible since we have a specified time window.  We do full test runs to minimize this but it has come up once or twice.  We use Red-Gate source control to "push" from the test environment to the production environment.  There have been a couple of occasions where the test environment with the wrong setting was pushed back over the production environment because the change was made only in production.  Gotta keep an eye on that. Alan Dykes Goodness is it manual.  And can be extremely painful at times.  Not only are we running thin, we are constrained on the tools we can get ($$ must mean free).  Certainly no excuse, and a great opportunity to improve my skills by learning new things.  But...  Getting buy in a on a proven process or methodology is hard, takes time, and diverts us from development.  If SQL Source Control is easy to use and proven oh boy could you get some serious fans around here!  Seriously though, as the "accidental dba" of this shop any new ideas / easy to implement tools can make a world of difference in productivity and most importantly accuracy.  Manual = bad. :) John Hennesey (who left his email address) The one thing I would love to know more about is the unique challenges of working with databases as source code - you can store scripts, but are they written as deployment scripts with all the logic about how to apply them to an existing DB? Where is that baseline DB? Where's the data? How does a team share the data and the code? It's a real challenge. Merrill Aldrich Congratulations to the five of you. Red Gate will be in touch with you soon about your free licenses. Thank you to all those that responded. And again, go and check out all the responses – those above are only small proportion from what is a very interesting comment thread. @Jamiet

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