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• Display problem with fresh install of 12.04

  - by Dan

  Just intalled Ubuntu 12.04 from CD and install went with no problems. After rebooting, I get the initial purple screen and then a black screen with mouse pointer and a few stray pixels at the bottom left of screen. Occasionally during the boot process, the purple screen comes back momentarily but then back to the black screen with the mouse pointer. When I finally give up and press the power button, the purple screen returns with the Shut Down box visible as it is shutting down. Any ideas? I have tried adding nomodeset after quiet splash, but no change. Possibly not doing it correctly, since I am somewhat of a newbie to linux. Thanks! Dan

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• Can Ubuntu-One be installed on Ubuntu 10.04?

  - by crivello

  I have installed ubuntu-one by the several ways on a 10.04-TLS, it appears on my System Preference Ubuntu One. however, Clicking one it , nothing happens. On a terminal, the command : ~$ ubuntuone-launch doe not working too, and the following command ~$ ubuntuone-preferences leads to an error message, given below, that made me crazy. Does somebody has an idea one a solution to solve that ? Many thanks. \jcc Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-preferences", line 63, in <module> from desktopcouch.replication_services import ubuntuone as dcouch File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/__init__.py", line 20, in <module> from desktopcouch.start_local_couchdb import process_is_couchdb, read_pidfile File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/start_local_couchdb.py", line 38, in <module> from desktopcouch import local_files File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/local_files.py", line 300, in <module> xdg_base_dirs.save_config_path("desktop-couch")) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/local_files.py", line 235, in __init__ self.couch_exec_command = [COUCH_EXE, self.couch_chain_ini_files(), File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/desktopcouch/local_files.py", line 274, in couch_chain_ini_files stdout=subprocess.PIPE) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py", line 633, in __init__errread, errwrite) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py", line 1139, in _execute_child raise child_exception OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied

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• How to Dual Boot Windows 7 x64 and Ubuntu 13.04 x64 as BIOS, not EFI

  - by Dizeke

  I want to dual boot windows 7 x64 and ubuntu 13.04 x64, but when I installed it, it doesn't boot. Only windows was booting. I installed ubuntu with " / " 50GB and a "swap" partition 4GB. Could it be that it doesn't work because I'm on bios mode, and that my disk is MBR, not GPT. My laptop doesn't have an option to change boot mode to UEFI so as much as possible, I'd stick to MBR :( Acer Aspire 4755G Intel i5-2450M 2.5Ghz-3.1Ghz Nvidia GeForce GT540M 2GB 4GB RAM DDR3

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• Security considerations for a default install?

  - by cpedros

  So with an old burned install CD of Feisty Fawn I went through the process of completely formatting the Windows OS and installing Ubuntu on an old XP laptop. I then went through the online upgrade to 10.4 LTS, only installing the gnome desktop environment package in the process. My (admittedly very open) question is that in this state and online, what security considerations do I have to immediately make for the default install? I understand that a lot of this swings on my intended use of the server, but just sitting there online what risks is it exposed to (this obviously goes far beyond the realm of linux, but I am not sure how these risks are accommodated in the default install). For example, I believe there is a firewall installed with Ubuntu but by default it allows all traffic. Any other guidelines would be much appreciated. Thanks

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• Why do things change between using a LiveCD/LiveUSB and installing Ubuntu?

  - by ahow628

  Here have been a couple of weird experiences I've had with a Ubuntu LiveCD or LiveUSB: 1) I had one of the original Chromebooks (CR-48). I ended up wiping ChromeOS and installing only Ubuntu 12.04.0 just after it came out. It worked like a charm. About a year later, I broke something and reinstalled Ubuntu using 12.04.3 on a LiveUSB. The LiveUSB worked perfectly - screen resolution, wifi, trackpad all worked fine. I installed it (once installing updates, once stock from the USB drive) and both times screen resolution, wifi, and trackpad all broke. I ended up downloading 12.04.0 and installing it then upgrading to 12.04.3 after the fact and everything worked perfectly once again. 2) I purchased a Toshiba Portege z935 and the LiveUSB worked perfectly, namely the wifi. After install, wifi was extremely slow and basically couldn't load any pages. The answer was that Bluetooth conflicted somehow with wifi and Bluetooth had to be disabled to get wifi to work. Yet both could be enabled in the LiveUSB version, no problem. So my question is, why does this happen? Why does everything work perfectly from the LiveUSB version but then get broken when installed on the system? Is there a different way to install Ubuntu that would allow things to be installed over exactly as they were on the LiveUSB version (drivers, settings, etc)? Are there assumptions that the install makes that I could override somehow?

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• Booting from USB on Mac Air (using setup_mac_usb_boot.sh)

  - by Mike O

  So, I've been working on this for hours and it's getting a little tiring. As some of you may know, installing Ubuntu on Macs is frequently an adventure, and I'm experiencing that right now. The part I'm hung up on at the moment is making a bootable USB. I would just use a CD, but my laptop is a MacBook Air (which doesn't have a CD drive), and I don't own an external CD drive. I initially attempted to use the command line method supplied by the Ubuntu documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick However, that wasn't even recognized by rEFIt even when I made a number of different modifications to the process, so I quickly decided to look elsewhere. I came across this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Basic_Installation_Instructions This ended up working to a large extent. If I choose the supplied grub from rEFIt, it will bring me to the Ubuntu grub, asking me to try it, install, or check the disk. And if I choose to boot Linux directly from rEFIt, it will bring me to the language selection menu. But when I make my selection from either of these menus it pauses for about ten seconds and then gives me a command line error message. It begins with kernel panic - not syncing timer doesn't work through interrupt, and then shows about eight file names. Does anyone here have any ideas as to what can be causing this? I also tried the script with both Ubuntu 11.10 (the current version when the script was written) and 12.04.

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• Long pause in pxe/preseed install

  - by Bo Kersey

  I'm encountering a long pause during unattended (preseeded) install of precise server via pxe. The install eventually works, but appears to just sit there for 20 or 30 minutes after it authenticates the mirror. There is nothing in the logs during this time, even with full debug. Log excerpt: Aug 2 13:29:59 net-retriever: Signature made Fri Aug 2 06:05:28 2013 UTC using DSA key ID 437D05B5 Aug 2 13:29:59 net-retriever: gpgv: Aug 2 13:29:59 net-retriever: Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <[email protected]>" Aug 2 13:29:59 net-retriever: Aug 2 13:50:10 anna[5072]: DEBUG: resolver (ext2-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored) Aug 2 13:50:10 anna[5072]: DEBUG: resolver (efi-modules): package doesn't exist (ignored) Bug related to this problem that is not being worked. I'm surprised that no one else is complaining about this. Or, is there some other way to do an unattended install that everyone else is using?

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• Proper way to remove an active / inactive LVM snapshot

  - by user2622247

  I have created a sample ruby script file for removing extra LVM snapshots from the system. For removing LVM snapshot, we are using lvremove command. This command is working fine and we can remove snapshots from the system. # sudo lvremove /dev/ops/dbbackup lvremove -- do you really want to remove "/dev/ops/dbbackup"? [y/n]: y Sometimes while removing snapshots we are getting following errors. Unable to deactivate open rootfs_12.10_20140812_00-cow (252:8) Failed to resume rootfs_12.10_20140812_00. libdevmapper exiting with 7 device(s) still suspended. The system gets frozen. We cannot fire any command or can not perform any action on it. After restarting the system, it is functioning fine. We can perform all the operations even we can delete that snapshot also. I searched about it I found these threads https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659762 and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674682 Solution from this thread is after getting the error but I have to avoid this type of error. I have a question, Is there any better way removing LVM snapshots? So that we can avoid this type of error. If anyone needs more info feel free to ask me.

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• Ubuntu DVD for Africa

  - by Brendon

  I live in Tanzania Africa and have been promoting Ubuntu for use by NGOs, Schools, and Friends. So far I've got a lot of positive feedback, but do have one huge problem. Internet here is both slow and very costly (up to $1,200 per month) So what I am looking for is a current release of Ubuntu which includes all the updates and popular applications already on it like; Gimp, VLC, Ubuntu Restricted files, Scribus, Inkscape, VirtualBox, Chrome, Audacity, Compiz, Blender, Ubuntu Tweak, Gnucash, Skype, etc... Basically all the 4 - 5 star applications. Does a hybrid DVD exist? I found links to one called Ubuntu Install Box 11.04, but not sure if they are truly legitimate. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Brendon

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• Error while installing GNU Octave packages

  - by carllacan

  I want to install the GNU Octave optim package, but I keep receiving errors in the process. Apparently I need to install some other packages first, one of which is the general package. However, when I try to, I receive this error: octave:17> pkg install general-1.3.2.tar.gz make: /usr/bin/mkoctfile: Command not found make: *** [__exit__.oct] Error 127 'make' returned the following error: make: Entering directory `/tmp/oct-CGIPo9/general/src' /usr/bin/mkoctfile __exit__.cc make: Leaving directory `/tmp/oct-CGIPo9/general/src' error: called from `pkg>configure_make' in file /usr/share/octave/3.6.1/m/pkg/pkg.m near line 1391, column 9 error: called from: error: /usr/share/octave/3.6.1/m/pkg/pkg.m at line 834, column 5 error: /usr/share/octave/3.6.1/m/pkg/pkg.m at line 383, column 9

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• ubuntu 12.04 does not detect already installed windows 7

  - by arvind

  sir i have alreary installed windows 7 ultimate and when i tried to install ubuntu 12.04 it's installer didn't detect windows even i have only two primary and two logical partition on windows when i goes through try ubuntu and use command " os-prober" it shows output like as " unshare failed: Operation not permitted ERROR: you must be root ERROR: you must be root ERROR: you must be root ERROR: you must be root ERROR: you must be root ERROR: you must be root mkdir: cannot create directory /var/lib/os-prober/mount': Permission denied mkdir: cannot create directory/var/lib/os-prober/mount': Permission denied mkdir: cannot create directory /var/lib/os-prober/mount': Permission denied mkdir: cannot create directory/var/lib/os-prober/mount': Permission denied mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/lib/os-prober/mount': Permission denied" so plzzzz help me what should i do ???

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• Why Does Ejabberd Start Fail?

  - by Andrew

  I am trying to install ejabberd 2.1.10-2 on my Ubuntu 12.04.1 server. This is a fresh install, and ejabberd is never successfully installed. The Install Every time, apt-get hangs on this: Setting up ejabberd (2.1.10-2ubuntu1) ... Generating SSL certificate /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.pem... Creating config file /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg with new version Starting jabber server: ejabberd............................................................ failed. The dots just go forever until it times out or I 'killall' beam, beam.smp, epmd, and ejabberd processes. I've turned off all firewall restrictions. Here's the output of epmd -names while the install is hung: epmd: up and running on port 4369 with data: name ejabberdctl at port 42108 name ejabberd at port 39621 And after it fails: epmd: up and running on port 4369 with data: name ejabberd at port 39621 At the same time (during and after), the output of both netstat -atnp | grep 5222 and netstat -atnp | grep 5280 is empty. The Crash File A crash dump file is create at /var/log/ejabber/erl_crash.dump. The slogan (i.e. reason for the crash) is: Slogan: Kernel pid terminated (application_controller) ({application_start_failure,kernel,{shutdown,{kernel,start,[normal,[]]}}}) It's alive? Whenever I try to relaunch ejabberd with service ejabberd start, the same thing happens - even if I've killed all processes before doing so. However, when I killall the processes listed above again, and run su - ejabberd -c /usr/sbin/ejabberd, this is the output I get: Erlang R14B04 (erts-5.8.5) [source] [64-bit] [rq:1] [async-threads:0] [kernel-poll:false] Eshell V5.8.5 (abort with ^G) (ejabberd@ns1)1> =INFO REPORT==== 15-Oct-2012::12:26:13 === I(<0.478.0>:ejabberd_listener:166) : Reusing listening port for 5222 =INFO REPORT==== 15-Oct-2012::12:26:13 === I(<0.479.0>:ejabberd_listener:166) : Reusing listening port for 5269 =INFO REPORT==== 15-Oct-2012::12:26:13 === I(<0.480.0>:ejabberd_listener:166) : Reusing listening port for 5280 =INFO REPORT==== 15-Oct-2012::12:26:13 === I(<0.40.0>:ejabberd_app:72) : ejabberd 2.1.10 is started in the node ejabberd@ns1 Then, the server appears to be running. I get a login prompt when I access http://mydomain.com:5280/admin/. Of course I can't login unless I create an account. At this time, the output of netstat -atnp | grep 5222 and netstat -atnp | grep 5280 is as follows: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5222 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 19347/beam tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5280 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 19347/beam ejabberdctl Even when it appears ejabberd is running, trying to do anything with ejabberdctl fails. For example: trying to register a user: root@ns1:~# ejabberdctl register myusername mydomain.com mypassword Failed RPC connection to the node ejabberd@ns1: nodedown I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. This happens on two different servers I have with identical software installed (really not much of anything). Please help. Thanks.

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• Formatting and installing Ubuntu over Windows 7 without admin password

  - by Emiliano Pasqualetti

  A borrowed a friend workstation with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10. I do not have the administrator password and I would like to format everything and install Ubuntu 12.04. I have put the iso on the usb using PendriveLinux and restarted the machine. At the boot I am presented with several options but those Ubuntu ones simply load my friends Ubuntu 10.10 OS (for which I have no password). edit: I fixed this by pressing F12 at the boot before it gave me that prompt (called GRUB). I clicked USB and finally install.

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• Installing on a mac without a CD burner or USB boot

  - by Rafael

  I am new to Ubuntu, i installed it in an old PC and now it works GREAT!!! My Macbook pro has a glitch and refuses to run Mac OS X, so i installed Windows, and i really want Ubuntu since Windows is not for me. Here's the problem(s) my drive only READS DVDs, if i put a blank in it, it will ignore it and my mac has the updated EFI, so no booting from a USB connected device! I also tried Wubi, but then i cant make it a FULL partition and get rid of windows!!! Thank you!

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• Installed Ubuntu on a Intel I5 3330 (over a dh 77eb motherboard), networking fails

  - by Siddharth

  To my surprise network fails after Ubuntu installs. modprobe e1000, did not get networking to kick off modprobe e1000e, too did not load Searched for the drivers on the intel site, no linux drivers listed. lspci reports 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:1503] (rev 04) Any idea on how to proceed ? Is there a place where I can map driver names (like e1000, e1000e) with the model numbers ?

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• problem in installing mysqlworkbench 6

  - by pavan

  Ubuntu 13.04 - 32 bit (Reading database ... 216964 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking mysql-workbench-community (from mysql-workbench-community-6.0.6-1ubu1304-i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing mysql-workbench-community-6.0.6-1ubu1304-i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/mysql-workbench/model_view.glade', which is also in package mysql-workbench-data 5.2.40+dfsg-2ubuntu1 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-workbench-community-6.0.6-1ubu1304-i386.deb Please help..

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• Differences between "apache"'s installations

  - by JustTrying

  Are there any differences between installing Apache httpd using sudo apt-get install apache2 (as the guide of Ubuntu says - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html ) or following the steps on the Apache documentation (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/install.html#overview)? I tried both ways; in the first case (using apt-get) the server seems to work - I open a browser page and I got it. In the second case I need other packages (apr, apr-util and pcre) and so I abandoned the attempt.

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• SQL Server 2012 : A couple of notes about installing RC0

  - by AaronBertrand

  If you're going to install Distributed Replay Controller I've posted about this on twitter a few times, but I thought I should put it down somewhere permanent as well. When you install RC0, and have selected the Distributed Replay Controller, you should be very careful about choosing the "Add Current User" button on the following dialog (I felt compelled to embellish with the skull and crossbones): If you click this button (it may also happen for the Add... button), you may experience a little delay...(read more)

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• How can I install Cinnamon on Ubuntu 12.04 and eliminate the following errors:

  - by jaorizabal

  $ sudo apt-get install cinnamon cinnamon-session cinnamon-settings Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Note, selecting 'cinnamon' instead of 'cinnamon-session' Note, selecting 'cinnamon' instead of 'cinnamon-settings' Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: cinnamon : Depends: gir1.2-muffin-3.0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libcogl5 (>= 1.7.4) but it is not installable Depends: libmuffin0 (>= 1.0.0-0ubuntu1~precise) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: gnome-themes-standard but it is not going to be installed Recommends: gnome-session-fallback but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I added this PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:merlwiz79/cinnamon-ppa Then ran the following command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinnamon cinnamon-session cinnamon-settings How can I install the latest Cinnamon desktop? How can I fix this error?

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• Security considerations for default install of Ubuntu

  - by cpedros

  So with an old burned install CD of Feisty Fawn I went through the process of completely formatting the Windows OS and installing Ubuntu on an old XP laptop. I then went through the online upgrade to 10.4 LTS, only installing the gnome desktop environment package in the process. My (admittedly very open) question is that in this state and online, what security considerations do I have to immediately make for the default install? I understand that a lot of this swings on my intended use of the server, but just sitting there online what risks is it exposed to (this obviously goes far beyond the realm of linux, but I am not sure how these risks are accommodated in the default install). For example, I believe there is a firewall installed with Ubuntu but by default it allows all traffic. Any other guidelines would be much appreciated. Thanks

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• SQL Server 2008 R2 is here now, MSDN and Technet subscribers get ready to download

  - by ssqa.net

  IN contintuation to SQL Server 2008 R2 announcement here is the good news for MSDN & Technet subscribers, see here_for_more, Don't forget to uninstall the previous & current SQL Server 2008 R2 CTP releases (by taking database backups) and install afresh for further testing. Good luck.... more to come on R2 here!...(read more)

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• Why isn't this driver install working (sudo code)?

  - by Nick

  I have a soundcard that I'd like to use and I've been trying to install it and being a new Ubuntu user, I get about half way through this in the Terminal and it stops cooperating with me... See the link (soundcard hyperlink) but basically what I have here: I do the following and it works: sudo apt-get install subversion svn co https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux Change to the directory cd line6linux/driver/trunk Time to build from the source but first make sure you have the latest build and headers sudo apt-get install build-essential sudo apt-get install linux-headers Then after this point it says must specify file to install. Not sure how to do this or what it means. Then, running make gives the following output: ./set_revision.sh ./set_revision.sh: 9: test: https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk: unexpected operator make -C /lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic-pae/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk modules make[1]: Entering directory /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae' CC [M] /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.o /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.c: In function ‘line6_init_audio’: /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.c:30:57: error: ‘THIS_MODULE’ undeclared (first use in this function) /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.c:30:57: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in make[2]: * [/home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.o] Error 1 make[1]: * [module/home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae' make: * [default] Error 2 This is in Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Another thing, semi related. Cut, copy, paste? Seems like it's different from program to program. I was in the terminal and hit Ctrl-C and then Ctrl-Shift-V in Firefox and it won't paste. But in terminal it will paste. I'm confused. Here is what it's giving me after I hit "Make": nick@NickUbuntu:~/line6linux/driver/trunk$ make ./set_revision.sh ./set_revision.sh: 9: test: https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk: unexpected operator make -C /lib/modules/3.2.0-29-generic-pae/build CONFIG_LINE6_USB=m SUBDIRS=/home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk modules make[1]: Entering directory /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae' CC [M] /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.o /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.c: In function ‘line6_init_audio’: /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.c:30:57: error: ‘THIS_MODULE’ undeclared (first use in this function) /home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.c:30:57: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in make[2]: *** [/home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk/audio.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/home/nick/line6linux/driver/trunk] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic-pae' make: * [default] Error 2 Looks like these folks also had similar problems: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163608&page=3

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• Why I can't install new fonts in LibreOffice?

  - by uzumaki

  I have installed a lot of fonts before, but this time things are really different. I have downloaded some True Type Font (ttf) fonts. Then paste them in the directory usr/share/fonts after that I've restarted LibreOffice writer but don't find them in the font list. No better result with PC rebooting. Then again paste them in the directory usr/share/fonts/truetype and again restarted LibreOffice writer, but still they aren't on the font list. I've tried in another way. Opened the fonts with font viewer and click on the "install" but the result is same. No improvement at all. Latest I've just found that those specific fonts are installed on my system, they present on gedit font list,but not in the LibreOffice font list. So, may be the problem is with LibreOffice. Very surprising and irritating issue indeed.

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• Can't get past the Ubuntu loading screen when installing

  - by Oscar Godson

  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 onto some custom made PC that my father in law tried building. It had Windows on it, but he wants Ubuntu so he asked me to do it. I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a few computers no issues, but on this computer I get to the all purple screen with the Ubuntu logo and the orange and white dots that light up. Like this: The fan is also super, super loud and sounds like the whole thing is going to explode and has been running like this for 15 mins ish. Then, after about 15 mins the dots stop animating from orange to white and usually just stick at all orange. Any ideas?

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• HP ENVY TouchSmart 15t-j000 Quad Edition + custom mSata Plextor M5M 64GB SSD

  - by Akash Ramani

  The ssd did not come along with the laptop, so i bought one myself and physically installed it. I've booted into Ubuntu from a USB drive and my goal is to install / and /home in the SSD. (because most of the actual media exists on the HDD) The only problem is i'm unable to detect the SSD while configuring the partitions. I know the SSD is not the problem because it recognizes in a different laptop. I've followed the instructions shown in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but that still doesn't help in identifying the SSD partition. Any help would be appreciated. (p.s: I'm wondering if i have to prepare the SSD through windows or something like that)

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