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• What is a good resource for HTML character codes -> glyph and...

  - by Ben

  Hi, I've already found a good site to convert HTML character codes to their respective glyphs: http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/glyph_encoding.html However, I need a bit more information. Does anyone know of a site like the one above that also provides information on what type of character code it is? Meaning, is it a special character? Is the glyph visible? Etc... So far I have found some tables with this information, but they aren't as complete as the resource above. I would really like to get my hands on a complete table. Thanks, -Ben

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• MySQL & PHP - select/option lists and showing data to users that still allows me to generate queries

  - by Andrew Heath

  Sorry for the unclear title, an example will clear things up: TABLE: Scenario_victories ID scenid timestamp userid side playdate 1 RtBr001 2010-03-15 17:13:36 7 1 2010-03-10 2 RtBr001 2010-03-15 17:13:36 7 1 2010-03-10 3 RtBr001 2010-03-15 17:13:51 7 2 2010-03-10 ID and timestamp are auto-insertions by the database when the other 4 fields are added. The first thing to note is that a user can record multiple playings of the same scenario (scenid) on the same date (playdate) possibly with the same outcome (side = winner). Hence the need for the unique ID and timestamps for good measure. Now, on their user page, I'm displaying their recorded play history in a <select><option>... list form with 2 buttons at the end - Delete Record and Go to Scenario My script takes the scenid and after hitting a few other tables returns with something more user-friendly like: (playdate) (from scenid) (from side) ######################################################### # 2010-03-10 Road to Berlin #1 -- Germany, Hungary won # # 2010-03-10 Road to Berlin #1 -- Germany, Hungary won # # 2010-03-10 Road to Berlin #1 -- Soviet Union won # ######################################################### [Delete Record] [Go To Scenario] in HTML: <select name="history" size=3> <option>2010-03-10 Road to Berlin #1 -- Germany, Hungary won</option> <option>2010-03-10 Road to Berlin #1 -- Germany, Hungary won</option> <option>2010-03-10 Road to Berlin #1 -- Soviet Union won</option> </select> Now, if you were to highlight the first record and click Go to Scenario there is enough information there for me to parse it and produce the exact scenario you want to see. However, if you were to select Delete Record there is not - I have the playdate and I can parse the scenid and side from what's listed, but in this example all three records would have the same result. I appear to have painted myself into a corner. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can get some unique identifying data (ID and/or timestamp) to ride along on this form without showing it to the user? PHP-only please, I must be NoScript compliant!

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• C# Application crashes with Buffer Overrun in deployed (.exe) version, but not in Visual Studio

  - by Ben

  Hi, I have a c# Windows Forms application that runs perfectly from within Visual Studio, but crashes when its deployed and run from the .exe. It crashes with a Buffer Overrun error...and its pretty clear that this error is not being thrown from within my code. Instead, windows must be detecting some sort of buffer overrun and shutting down the application from the outside. I don't think there's one specific line of code that is causing it..it simply happens intermittently. Does anybody have any thoughts on what the possible causes of a Buffer Overrun error might be, and why it would only occur in the deployed application and not when run from with Visual Studio? Thanks in advance, Ben

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• How to view logical file with multiple Recordformats In AS/400?

  - by abhinav singh

  I have made a multiformat logical file in as400. When I run it, only one record format fields are displayed. Second record format fields are not seen. what is the procedure to see all record format fields?

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• Eclipse: How to build an executable jar with external jar?

  - by Ben

  Hi all, I am trying to build an executable jar program which depends on external jar downloaded. In my project, I included them in the build path and can be run and debug within eclipse. When I tried to export it to a jar, I can run the program but I can't when I try to press a button which includes function calls and classes from the external jar. I have edited the environment variables (Windows XP) CLASSPATH to include paths of all the external jar, but it doesn't work. A point to note is that I got compile warnings while exporting my executable jar, but it doesn't show up any description about the warnings. Would someone kindly provide a thorough guide on how to include an external jar program using eclipse? Best regards, KWAN Chiu Yin, Ben

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• SQL Server Clustered Index: (Physical) Data Page Order

  - by scherand

  I am struggling understanding what a clustered index in SQL Server 2005 is. I read the MSDN article Clustered Index Structures (among other things) but I am still unsure if I understand it correctly. The (main) question is: what happens if I insert a row (with a "low" key) into a table with a clustered index? The above mentioned MSDN article states: The pages in the data chain and the rows in them are ordered on the value of the clustered index key. And Using Clustered Indexes for example states: For example, if a record is added to the table that is close to the beginning of the sequentially ordered list, any records in the table after that record will need to shift to allow the record to be inserted. Does this mean that if I insert a row with a very "low" key into a table that already contains a gazillion rows literally all rows are physically shifted on disk? I cannot believe that. This would take ages, no? Or is it rather (as I suspect) that there are two scenarios depending on how "full" the first data page is. A) If the page has enough free space to accommodate the record it is placed into the existing data page and data might be (physically) reordered within that page. B) If the page does not have enough free space for the record a new data page would be created (anywhere on the disk!) and "linked" to the front of the leaf level of the B-Tree? This would then mean the "physical order" of the data is restricted to the "page level" (i.e. within a data page) but not to the pages residing on consecutive blocks on the physical hard drive. The data pages are then just linked together in the correct order. Or formulated in an alternative way: if SQL Server needs to read the first N rows of a table that has a clustered index it can read data pages sequentially (following the links) but these pages are not (necessarily) block wise in sequence on disk (so the disk head has to move "randomly"). How close am I? :)

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• How should jruby-jars and jruby-rack be added to the classpath using warbler?

  - by Ben Hogan

  Hi again, I've been reading through the warbler source code, and I can't figure out how the jruby-jars and jruby-rack jars are meant to end up on the servlet classpath? It seems warbler is copying them into web-inf/gems/gems/<gemname>/lib/<jarname>.jar but they are not on the classpath. I'm guessing that if I put them in my ruby apps lib/ folder they would be copied to web-inf/lib and all would be well, however, it seems odd to have 2 copies of the jar in the war file, is that what I am meant to do? Ben

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• Import xml to database with high end performance and Audit log- A best Practice

  - by karthik

  Hi, I have to import big xml files to Ms SQL 2005 Database by using C# with high end Performance. Even if any record fails in middle, i have to take next record for process and failed record need to log for audit. I don't want to put insert query with in for loop. Could you please suggest a best way to do this. If I can use bulkcopy methods or Data Adapter update methods- Its very nice, But if any record fails, execution of that statement breaks and rolled back totally, right? Any alternatives and Best practices with example please..? Is Multi-threading works for me to improve performance..? Give me example please. Thanks Karthikeyan

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• Problem updating a database field from my controller

  - by ben

  I have an update method in my users controller that I call from a HTTPService in Flex 4. The update method is as follows: def updateName @user = User.find_by_email(params[:email]) @user.name = params[:nameNew] render :nothing => true end This is console output: Processing UsersController#updateName (for 127.0.0.1 at 2010-05-24 14:12:49) [POST] Parameters: {"action"="updateName", "nameNew"="ben", "controller"="users", "email"="[email protected]"} User Load (0.6ms) SELECT * FROM "users" WHERE ("users"."email" = '[email protected]') LIMIT 1 Completed in 20ms (View: 1, DB: 1) | 200 OK [http://localhost/users/updateName] But when I check my database, the name field is never updated. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for reading.

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• Authenticating stackoveflow programatically - OpenID

  - by Ben Reeves

  I would like to add up and down voting to my iPhone appilcation - MyStacks, for this I need the to be able to authenticate the user with SO. I'm look at adapting the Twitter-OAuth-iPhone library. However The problem I have is obtaining the consumer and secret key. to use OAuth, do I need to obtain a different key for each provider? In order to obtain a consumer key from google the application needs to have a domain name, but this being an iPhone app of course i don't have one, does this mean that I can't use OAuth? Is there any other way to programatically authenticate SO? Thanks, Ben

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• Any simple approaches for managing customer data change requests for global reference files?

  - by Kelly Duke

  For the first time, I am developing in an environment in which there is a central repository for a number of different industry standard reference data tables and many different customers who need to select records from these industry standard reference data tables to fill in foreign key information for their customer specific records. Because these industry standard reference files are utilized by all customers, I want to reserve Create/Update/Delete access to these records for global product administrators. However, I would like to implement a (semi-)automated interface by which specific customers could request record additions, deletions or modifications to any of the industry standard reference files that are shared among all customers. I know I need something like a "data change request" table specifying: user id, user request datetime, request type (insert, modify, delete), a user entered text explanation of the change request, the user request's current status (pending, declined, completed), admin resolution datetime, admin id, an admin entered text description of the resolution, etc. What I can't figure out is how to elegantly handle the fact that these data change requests could apply to dozens of different tables with differing table column definitions. I would like to give the customer users making these data change requests a convenient way to enter their proposed record additions/modifications directly into CRUD screens that look very much like the reference table CRUD screens they don't have write/delete permissions for (with an additional text explanation and perhaps request priority field). I would also like to give the global admins a tool that allows them to view all the outstanding data change requests for the users they oversee sorted by date requested or user/date requested. Upon selecting a data change request record off the list, the admin would be directed to another CRUD screen that would be populated with the fields the customer users requested for the new/modified industry standard reference table record along with customer's text explanation, the request status and the text resolution explanation field. At this point the admin could accept/edit/reject the requested change and if accepted the affected industry standard reference file would be automatically updated with the appropriate fields and the data change request record's status, text resolution explanation and resolution datetime would all also be appropriately updated. However, I want to keep the actual production reference tables as simple as possible and free from these extraneous and typically null customer change request fields. I'd also like the data change request file to aggregate all data change requests across all the reference tables yet somehow "point to" the specific reference table and primary key in question for modification & deletion requests or the specific reference table and associated customer user entered field values in question for record creation requests. Does anybody have any ideas of how to design something like this effectively? Is there a cleaner, simpler way I am missing? Thank you so much for reading.

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• rails activerecord save method

  - by Yang

  hi, guys, can the save method be used to update a record? person = Person.new person.save # rails will insert the new record into the database. however, if i find a record first, modify it and save it. is it the same as performing a update? person = Person.find(:first, :condition => "id = 1") person.name = "my_new_name" person.save # is this save performing a update or insert? Thanks in advance!

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• Java, dBase microsoft driver and deleted flag

  - by blow

  Hi, im connecting to dBase from java with this string: String url="jdbc:odbc:DRIVER={Microsoft dBase Driver (*.dbf)};DBQ="+databasePath+";DefaultDir="+databasePath+";DriverId=533;FIL=dBase IV;MaxBufferSize=2048;PageTimeout=5;"; Work fine, but with a SELECT statement i can retrieve only record that are not "deleted". In dBase database deletet record are only flagged deleted, so i want retrive deleted record too. Is this possibile? Thank.

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• IDbTransaction Rollback Timeout

  - by Ben

  I am dealing with an interesting situation where I perform many database updates in a single transaction. If these updates fail for any reason, the transaction is rolled-back. IDbTransaction transaction try { transaction = connection.BeginTransaction(); // do lots of updates (where at least one fails) transaction.Commit(); } catch { transaction.Rollback(); // results in a timeout exception } finally { connection.Dispose(); } I believe the above code is generally considered the standard template for performing database updates within a transaction. The issue I am facing is that whilst transaction.Rollback() is being issued to SQL Server, it is also timing out on the client. Is there anyway of distinguishing between a timeout to issue the rollback command and a timeout on that command executing to completion? Thanks in advance, Ben

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• Generic object to object mapping with parametrized constructor

  - by Rody van Sambeek

  I have a data access layer which returns an IDataRecord. I have a WCF service that serves DataContracts (dto's). These DataContracts are initiated by a parametrized constructor containing the IDataRecord as follows: [DataContract] public class DataContractItem { [DataMember] public int ID; [DataMember] public string Title; public DataContractItem(IDataRecord record) { this.ID = Convert.ToInt32(record["ID"]); this.Title = record["title"].ToString(); } } Unfortanately I can't change the DAL, so I'm obliged to work with the IDataRecord as input. But in generat this works very well. The mappings are pretty simple most of the time, sometimes they are a bit more complex, but no rocket science. However, now I'd like to be able to use generics to instantiate the different DataContracts to simplify the WCF service methods. I want to be able to do something like: public T DoSomething<T>(IDataRecord record) { ... return new T(record); } So I'd tried to following solutions: Use a generic typed interface with a constructor. doesn't work: ofcourse we can't define a constructor in an interface Use a static method to instantiate the DataContract and create a typed interface containing this static method. doesn't work: ofcourse we can't define a static method in an interface Use a generic typed interface containing the new() constraint doesn't work: new() constraint cannot contain a parameter (the IDataRecord) Using a factory object to perform the mapping based on the DataContract Type. does work, but: not very clean, because I now have a switch statement with all mappings in one file. I can't find a real clean solution for this. Can somebody shed a light on this for me? The project is too small for any complex mapping techniques and too large for a "switch-based" factory implementation.

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• Linking Access records to Excel files

  - by glinch

  Hi there, I've been trying to create a complete system using MS Access, but i really need to use the functionality of excel spreadsheets. I wish to do the following; when I create a record, i create a directory for that record, and copy an excel spreadsheet to that directory. The spreadsheet will be able to link to the corresponding record. So for example if I have a field 'Name' In the database record, the value of this field will show up on the excel spreadsheet. Is it possible to this?

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• Wrap link around links in tweets with php preg_replace

  - by Ben Paton

  Hello I'm trying to display the latest tweet using the code below. This preg_replace works great for wrapping a link round twitter @usernames but doesn't work for web addresses in tweets. How do I get this code to wrap links around urls in tweets. <?php /** Script to pull in the latest tweet */ $username='fairgroceruk'; $format = 'json'; $tweet = json_decode(file_get_contents("http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline/{$username}.{$format}")); $latestTweet = htmlentities($tweet[0]->text, ENT_QUOTES); $latestTweet = preg_replace('/@([a-z0-9_]+)/i', '<a href="http://twitter.com/$1" target="_blank">@$1</a>', $latestTweet); $latestTweet = preg_replace('/http://([a-z0-9_]+)/i', '<a href="http://$1" target="_blank">http://$1</a>', $latestTweet); echo $latestTweet; ?> Thanks for the help, Ben

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• How do I apply a "template" or "skeleton" of code in C# here?

  - by Scott Stafford

  In my business layer, I need many, many methods that follow the pattern: public BusinessClass PropertyName { get { if (this.m_LocallyCachedValue == null) { if (this.Record == null) { this.m_LocallyCachedValue = new BusinessClass( this.Database, this.PropertyId); } else { this.m_LocallyCachedValue = new BusinessClass( this.Database, this.Record.ForeignKeyName); } } return this.m_LocallyCachedValue; } } I am still learning C#, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to write this pattern once and add methods to each business layer class that follow this pattern with the proper types and variable names substituted. BusinessClass is a typename that must be substituted, and PropertyName, PropertyId, ForeignKeyName, and m_LocallyCachedValue are all variables that should be substituted for. Are attributes usable here? Do I need reflection? How do I write the skeleton I provided in one place and then just write a line or two containing the substitution parameters and get the pattern to propagate itself? EDIT: Modified my misleading title -- I am hoping to find a solution that doesn't involve code generation or copy/paste techniques, and rather to be able to write the skeleton of the code once in a base class in some form and have it be "instantiated" into lots of subclasses as the accessor for various properties. EDIT: Here is my solution, as suggested but left unimplemented by the chosen answerer. // I'll write many of these... public BusinessClass PropertyName { get { return GetSingleRelation(ref this.m_LocallyCachedValue, this.PropertyId, "ForeignKeyName"); } } // That all call this. public TBusinessClass GetSingleRelation<TBusinessClass>( ref TBusinessClass cachedField, int fieldId, string contextFieldName) { if (cachedField == null) { if (this.Record == null) { ConstructorInfo ci = typeof(TBusinessClass).GetConstructor( new Type[] { this.Database.GetType(), typeof(int) }); cachedField = (TBusinessClass)ci.Invoke( new object[] { this.Database, fieldId }); } else { var obj = this.Record.GetType().GetProperty(objName).GetValue( this.Record, null); ConstructorInfo ci = typeof(TBusinessClass).GetConstructor( new Type[] { this.Database.GetType(), obj.GetType()}); cachedField = (TBusinessClass)ci.Invoke( new object[] { this.Database, obj }); } } return cachedField; }

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• Should I expect Comet to be this slow?

  - by Chad Johnson

  I have the following in a Rails controller: def poll records = [] start_time = Time.now.to_i while records.length == 0 do records = Something.uncached{Something.find(:all, :conditions => { :some_condition => false})} if records.length > 0 break end sleep 1 if Time.now.to_i - start_time >= 20 break end end responseData = [] records.each do |record| responseData << { 'something' => record.some_value } # Flag message as received. record.some_condition = true record.save end render :text => responseData.to_json end and then I have Javascript performing an AJAX request. The request sits there for 20 seconds or until the controller method finds a record in the database, waiting. That works. function poll() { $.ajax({ url: '/my_controller/poll', type: 'GET', dataType: 'json', cache: false, data: 'time=' + new Date().getTime(), success: function(response) { // show response here }, complete: function() { poll(); }, error: function() { alert('error'); poll(); } }); } When I have 5 - 10 tabs open in my browser, my web application becomes super slow. Is this to be expected? Or is there some obvious improvement(s) I can make?

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• migrating from Prototype to jQuery in Rails, having trouble with duplicate get request

  - by aressidi

  I'm in the process of migrating from Prototype to jQuery and moving all JS outside of the view files. All is going fairly well with one exception. Here's what I'm trying to do, and the problem I'm having. I have a diary where users can update records in-line in the page like so: user clicks 'edit' link to edit an entry in the diary a get request is performed via jQuery and an edit form is displayed allowing the user to modify the record user updates the record, the form disappears and the updated record is shown in place of the form All of that works so far. The problem arises when: user updates a record user clicks 'edit' to update another record in this case, the edit form is shown twice! In firebug I get a status code 200 when the form shows, and then moments later, another edit form shows again with a status code of 304 I only want the form to show once, not twice. The form shows twice only after I update a record, otherwise everything works fine. Here's the code, any ideas? I think this might have to do with the fact that in food_item_update.js I call the editDiaryEntry() after a record is updated, but if I don't call that function and try and update the record after it's been modified, then it just spits up the .js.erb response on the screen. That's also why I have the editDiaryEntry() in the add_food.js.erb file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. diary.js jQuery(document).ready(function() { postFoodEntry(); editDiaryEntry(); initDatePicker(); }); function postFoodEntry() { jQuery('form#add_entry').submit(function(e) { e.preventDefault(); jQuery.post(this.action, jQuery(this).serialize(), null, "script"); // return this }); } function editDiaryEntry() { jQuery('.edit_link').click(function(e) { e.preventDefault(); // This should look to see if one version of this is open... if (jQuery('#edit_container_' + this.id).length == 0 ) { jQuery.get('/diary/entry/edit', {id: this.id}, null, "script"); } }); } function closeEdit () { jQuery('.close_edit').click(function(e) { e.preventDefault(); jQuery('.entry_edit_container').remove(); jQuery("#entry_" + this.id).show(); }); } function updateDiaryEntry() { jQuery('.edit_entry_form').submit(function(e) { e.preventDefault(); jQuery.post(this.action, $(this).serialize(), null, "script"); }); } function initDatePicker() { jQuery("#date, #edit_date").datepicker(); }; add_food.js.erb jQuery("#entry_alert").show(); jQuery('#add_entry')[ 0 ].reset(); jQuery('#diary_entries').html("<%= escape_javascript(render :partial => 'members/diary/diary_entries', :object => @diary, :locals => {:record_counter => 0, :date_header => 0, :edit_mode => @diary_edit}, :layout => false ) %>"); jQuery('#entry_alert').html("<%= escape_javascript(render :partial => 'members/diary/entry_alert', :locals => {:type => @type, :message => @alert_message}) %>"); jQuery('#entry_alert').show(); setTimeout(function() { jQuery('#entry_alert').fadeOut('slow'); }, 5000); editDiaryEntry(); food_item_edit.js.erb jQuery("#entry_<%= @entry.id %>").hide(); jQuery("#entry_<%= @entry.id %>").after("<%= escape_javascript(render :partial => 'members/diary/food_item_edit', :locals => {:user_food_profile => @entry}) %>"); closeEdit(); updateDiaryEntry(); initDatePicker(); food_item_update.js jQuery("#entry_<%= @entry.id %>").replaceWith("<%= escape_javascript(render :partial => 'members/diary/food_item', :locals => {:entry => @entry, :total_calories => 0}) %>"); jQuery('.entry_edit_container').remove(); editDiaryEntry();

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• LINQ to SQL Translation

  - by Ben

  Hi, Depending on how I map my linq queries to my domain objects, I get the following error The member 'member' has no supported translation to SQL. This code causes the error: public IQueryable<ShippingMethod> ShippingMethods { get { return from sm in _db.ShippingMethods select new ShippingMethod( sm.ShippingMethodID, sm.Carrier, sm.ServiceName, sm.RatePerUnit, sm.EstimatedDelivery, sm.DaysToDeliver, sm.BaseRate, sm.Enabled ); } } This code works fine: public IQueryable<ShippingMethod> ShippingMethods { get { return from sm in _db.ShippingMethods select new ShippingMethod { Id = sm.ShippingMethodID, Carrier = sm.Carrier, ServiceName = sm.ServiceName, EstimatedDelivery = sm.EstimatedDelivery, DaysToDeliver = sm.DaysToDeliver, RatePerUnit = sm.RatePerUnit, IsEnabled = sm.Enabled, BaseRate = sm.BaseRate }; } } This is my testmethod I am testing with: [TestMethod] public void Test_Shipping_Methods() { IOrderRepository orderRepo = new SqlOrderRepository(); var items = orderRepo.ShippingMethods.Where(x => x.IsEnabled); Assert.IsTrue(items.Count() > 0); } How does the way in which I instantiate my object affect the linq to sql translation? Thanks Ben

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• Rails - Override primary key on has_one

  - by Ben Hall

  I have the following associations, basically I want to link via userid and not the id of the object. class Tweet < ActiveRecord::Base has_one :user_profile, :primary_key = 'userid', :foreign_key = 'twitter_userid' class UserProfile < ActiveRecord::Base belongs_to :tweet, :foreign_key = 'userid' However the following spec fails as twitter_userid is reset to the id of the object it "should have the user's twitter id set on their user profile" do t = Tweet.new(:twitter_id = 1, :status = 'Tester', :userid = 'personA', :user_profile = UserProfile.new(:twitter_userid = 'personA', :avatar = 'abc')) t.save! t.user_profile.twitter_userid.should == 'personA' end should have the user's twitter id set on their user profile expected: "personA", got: 216 (using ==) However, the following does pass: it "should return the correct avatar after being saved" do t = Tweet.new(:twitter_id = 1, :status = 'Tester', :userid = 'personA', :user_profile = UserProfile.new(:twitter_userid = 'personA', :avatar = 'abc')) t.save! t.user_profile.avatar.should == 'abc' end How can I force it to use userid and not id? Thanks Ben

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• Update Table in Asp.Net MVC

  - by Xulfee

  I have table on page i want to delete record from table and also update table after deletion record. <%= Ajax.ActionLink("Delete Ajax", "PostTypeDelete",new { id = item.int_PostTypeId }, new AjaxOptions{LoadingElementId="status"}) %> I used above code its working fine (it delete record) but it doesn't update table.

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• MySQL :- select by month

  - by Pankaj

  how can i get record from table using month/year? I have a table like Project Name - varchar DueDate -datetime Status -boll DueDate is project due date, i want record corresponding to month/year,not full date, i mean record for specific month. How can i do this in mysql

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• Constructor Injection and when to use a Service Locator

  - by Simon

  I'm struggling to understand parts of StructureMap's usage. In particular, in the documentation a statement is made regarding a common anti-pattern, the use of StructureMap as a Service Locator only instead of constructor injection (code samples straight from Structuremap documentation): public ShippingScreenPresenter() { _service = ObjectFactory.GetInstance<IShippingService>(); _repository = ObjectFactory.GetInstance<IRepository>(); } instead of: public ShippingScreenPresenter(IShippingService service, IRepository repository) { _service = service; _repository = repository; } This is fine for a very short object graph, but when dealing with objects many levels deep, does this imply that you should pass down all the dependencies required by the deeper objects right from the top? Surely this breaks encapsulation and exposes too much information about the implementation of deeper objects. Let's say I'm using the Active Record pattern, so my record needs access to a data repository to be able to save and load itself. If this record is loaded inside an object, does that object call ObjectFactory.CreateInstance() and pass it into the active record's constructor? What if that object is inside another object. Does it take the IRepository in as its own parameter from further up? That would expose to the parent object the fact that we're access the data repository at this point, something the outer object probably shouldn't know. public class OuterClass { public OuterClass(IRepository repository) { // Why should I know that ThingThatNeedsRecord needs a repository? // that smells like exposed implementation to me, especially since // ThingThatNeedsRecord doesn't use the repo itself, but passes it // to the record. // Also where do I create repository? Have to instantiate it somewhere // up the chain of objects ThingThatNeedsRecord thing = new ThingThatNeedsRecord(repository); thing.GetAnswer("question"); } } public class ThingThatNeedsRecord { public ThingThatNeedsRecord(IRepository repository) { this.repository = repository; } public string GetAnswer(string someParam) { // create activeRecord(s) and process, returning some result // part of which contains: ActiveRecord record = new ActiveRecord(repository, key); } private IRepository repository; } public class ActiveRecord { public ActiveRecord(IRepository repository) { this.repository = repository; } public ActiveRecord(IRepository repository, int primaryKey); { this.repositry = repository; Load(primaryKey); } public void Save(); private void Load(int primaryKey) { this.primaryKey = primaryKey; // access the database via the repository and set someData } private IRepository repository; private int primaryKey; private string someData; } Any thoughts would be appreciated. Simon

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