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  • UIButtons creating a native-like keyboard behavior.

    - by camilo
    Greets. A somehow detailed explanation on my problem, and what I have already done, and what I cannot do. I want to create a behavior resembling the one in the iPhone's keyboard. Basically, I want a view to appear when the user taps a button and WHILE the user taps that button. This, I accomplished. When the user lets go of the button WHILE his finger is on that button's area, I want to trigger an action "doing stuff". This, I was also able to do. Since all the buttons are near (like in the keyboard) and I don't want the user to select other button than the one he pressed, I reduced the hit area for the button using the -(BOOL)pointInside:(CGPoint)point withEvent:(UIEvent )event function. When the user presses the button, not lifting its finger, and dragging outside the button area, I want another action to trigger. This is the first problem... This function only triggers when the user's finger is far from the buttons' area, and this time the pointInside function is not being my friend. How can I detect the user finger "left" the button area the moment it exits its bounds? This, in case you didn't realize... was problem 1. The second problem is related with the drag enter. Again, I need to limit the area like in the drag exit. But I suppose that when I solve one of these, the other is the same. The problem is that in order to have a behavior like in the keyboard, I may need to detect the user started the touch in another button, never lifted his finger, and changed to another button. I can detect drag enter and drag exit IN THIS ORDER while on the same button. I cannot detect drag enter when the user first touched anywhere else other than the button where I want to detect the drag enter event. Basically what I need is to detect touch on any button (and not anywhere else in the view), and while the user is changing buttons without lifting the finger, I want to detect the new button being touched. This gigantic paragraph was problem #2. Any help, as you might guess, is highly appreciated. Best Regards. Thanks a lot!

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  • Array Sorting Question for News System

    - by lemonpole
    Hello all. I'm currently stuck trying to figure out how to sort my array files. I have a simple news posting system that stores the content in seperate .dat files and then stores them in an array. I numbered the files so that my array can sort them from lowest number to greatest; however, I have run into a small problem. To begin here is some more information on my system so that you can understand it better. The function that gathers my files is: function getNewsList() { $fileList = array(); // Open the actual directory if($handle = opendir(ABSPATH . ADMIN . "data")) { // Read all file from the actual directory while($file = readdir($handle)) { if(!is_dir($file)) { $fileList[] = $file; } } } // Return the array. return $fileList; } On a seperate file is the programming that processes the news post. I didn't post that code for simplicity's sake but I will explain how the files are named. The files are numbered and the part of the post's title is used... for the numbering I get a count of the array and add "1" as an offset. I get the title of the post, encode it to make it file-name-friendly and limit the amount of text so by the end of it all I end up with: // Make the variable that names the file that will contain // the post. $filename = "00{$newnumrows}_{$snipEncode}"; When running print_r on the above function I get: Array ( [0] => 0010_Mira_mi_Soledad.dat [1] => 0011_WOah.dat [2] => 0012_Sinep.dat [3] => 0013_Living_in_Warfa.dat [4] => 0014_Hello.dat [5] => 001_AS.dat [6] => 002_ASASA.dat [7] => 003_SSASAS.dat ... [13] => 009_ASADADASADAFDAF.dat ) And this is how my content is displayed. For some reason according to the array sorting 0010 comes before 001...? Is there a way I can get my array to sort 001 before 0010?

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  • Copying metadata over a database link in Oracle 10g

    - by Tunde
    Thanks in advance for your help experts. I want to be able to copy over database objects from database A into database B with a procedure created on database B. I created a database link between the two and have tweaked the get_ddl function of the dbms_metadata to look like this: create or replace function GetDDL ( p_name in MetaDataPkg.t_string p_type in MetaDataPkg.t_string ) return MetaDataPkg.t_longstring is -- clob v_clob clob; -- array of long strings c_SYSPrefix constant char(4) := 'SYS_'; c_doublequote constant char(1) := '"'; v_longstrings metadatapkg.t_arraylongstring; v_schema metadatapkg.t_string; v_fullength pls_integer := 0; v_offset pls_integer := 0; v_length pls_integer := 0; begin SELECT DISTINCT OWNER INTO v_schema FROM all_objects@ENTORA where object_name = upper(p_name); -- get DDL v_clob := dbms_metadata.get_ddl(p_type, upper(p_name), upper(v_schema)); -- get CLOB length v_fullength := dbms_lob.GetLength(v_clob); for nIndex in 1..ceil(v_fullength / 32767) loop v_offset := v_length + 1; v_length := least(v_fullength - (nIndex - 1) * 32767, 32767); dbms_lob.read(v_clob, v_length, v_offset, v_longstrings(nIndex)); -- Remove table’s owner from DDL string: v_longstrings(nIndex) := replace( v_longstrings(nIndex), c_doublequote || user || c_doublequote || '.', '' ); -- Remove the following from DDL string: -- 1) "new line" characters (chr(10)) -- 2) leading and trailing spaces v_longstrings(nIndex) := ltrim(rtrim(replace(v_longstrings(nIndex), chr(10), ''))); end loop; -- close CLOB if (dbms_lob.isOpen(v_clob) > 0) then dbms_lob.close(v_clob); end if; return v_longstrings(1); end GetDDL; so as to remove the schema prefix that usually comes with metadata. I get a null value whenever I run this function over the database link with the following queries. select getddl( 'TABLE', 'TABLE1') from user_tables@ENTORA where table_name = 'TABLE1'; select getddl( 'TABLE', 'TABLE1') from dual@ENTORA; t_string is varchar2(30) t_longstring is varchar2(32767) and type t_ArrayLongString is table of t_longstring I would really appreciate it if any one could help. Many thanks.

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  • Only variables can be passed by reference

    - by zaf
    I had the bright idea of using a custom error handler which led me down a rabbit hole. Following code gives (with and without custom error handler): Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference function foo(){ $b=array_pop(array("a","b","c")); return $b; } print_r(foo()); Following code gives (only with a custom error handler): (2048) Only variables should be passed by reference function foo(){ $a=explode( '/' , 'a/b/c'); $c=array_pop(array_slice($a,-2,1)); return $c; } print_r(foo()); The second one worries me since I have a lot of 'compact' code. So, I either ditch the bright idea of using a custom error handler (to improve my logging module) or expand all my code. Anyone with better ideas? Also, WTF?

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  • PHP: OOP and methods

    - by Pirkka
    Hello I`ve been wondering how to implement methods in a class. Could someone explain me what means if one does OOP in procedural style? Here is an example: class Fld extends Model { private $file; private $properties = array(); public function init($file) { $this->file = $file; $this->parseFile(); } private function parseFile() { // parses the file foreach($this->file as $line)...... .................. $this->properties = $result; } } I mean is it a good thing to have methods like these that do operations for the class properties like that. Or should I pass the class property as method parameter... I mean this would cause error if the file property wouldnt be declared.

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  • how to get mxml file in ActionScript class

    - by nemade-vipin
    hello friend I want to refer my mxml file into Actionscript class.My code is :- Mxml file is :- var User:Authentication; User = new Authentication(); User.authentication(); } ]] <mx:Panel width="100%" height="100%" layout="absolute"> <mx:TabNavigator width="100%" height="100%" id="viewstack2"> <mx:Form label="Login Form" id="loginform"> <mx:FormItem label="Mobile no:" creationPolicy="all"> <mx:TextInput id="mobileno"/> </mx:FormItem> <mx:FormItem label="Password:" creationPolicy="all"> <mx:TextInput displayAsPassword="true" id="password" /> </mx:FormItem> <mx:FormItem> <mx:Button label="Login" click="authentication()"/> </mx:FormItem> </mx:Form> <mx:Form label="Child List"> <mx:Label width="100%" color="blue" text="Select Child."/> </mx:Form> </mx:TabNavigator> </mx:Panel> Action script class is package SBTSBusineesObject { import generated.webservices.*; import mx.collections.ArrayCollection; import mx.controls.Alert; import mx.rpc.events.FaultEvent; public class Authentication { [Bindable] private var childName:ArrayCollection; [Bindable] private var childId:ArrayCollection; private var photoFeed:ArrayCollection; private var arrayOfchild:Array; private var newEntry:GetSBTSMobileAuthentication; public var user:SBTSWebService; public var mxmlobj:SBTS =null; public function authentication():void { user = new SBTSWebService(); mxmlobj = new SBTS(); if(user!=null) { user.addSBTSWebServiceFaultEventListener(handleFaults); user.addgetSBTSMobileAuthenticationEventListener(authenticationResult); newEntry = new GetSBTSMobileAuthentication(); if(newEntry!=null) { if(mxmlobj != null) { newEntry.mobile = mxmlobj.mobileno.text ; newEntry.password=mxmlobj.password.text; } user.getSBTSMobileAuthentication(newEntry); } } } public function handleFaults(event:FaultEvent):void { Alert.show("A fault occured contacting the server. Fault message is: " + event.fault.faultString); } public function authenticationResult(event:GetSBTSMobileAuthenticationResultEvent):void { if(event.result != null && event.result._return>0) { if(event.result._return > 0) { var UserId:int = event.result._return; if(mxmlobj != null) { mxmlobj.loginform.enabled = false; mxmlobj.viewstack2.selectedIndex=1; } } else { Alert.show("Authentication fail"); } } } } }

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  • Backtracking infinite loop

    - by Greenhorn
    This is Exercise 28.1.2 from HtDP. I've successfully implemented the neighbors function and all test cases pass. (define Graph (list (list 'A (list 'B 'E)) (list 'B (list 'E 'F)) (list 'C (list 'D)) (list 'D empty) (list 'E (list 'C 'F)) (list 'F (list 'D 'G)) (list 'G empty))) (define (first-line n alist) (cond [(symbol=? (first alist) n) alist] [else empty])) ;; returns empty if node is not in graph (define (neighbors n g) (cond [(empty? g) empty] [(cons? (first g)) (cond [(symbol=? (first (first g)) n) (first-line n (first g))] [else (neighbors n (rest g))])])) ; test cases (equal? (neighbors 'A Graph) (list 'A (list 'B 'E))) (equal? (neighbors 'B Graph) (list 'B (list 'E 'F))) (equal? (neighbors 'C Graph) (list 'C (list 'D))) (equal? (neighbors 'D Graph) (list 'D empty)) (equal? (neighbors 'E Graph) (list 'E (list 'C 'F))) (equal? (neighbors 'F Graph) (list 'F (list 'D 'G))) (equal? (neighbors 'G Graph) (list 'G empty)) (equal? (neighbors 'H Graph) empty) The problem comes when I copy-paste the code from Figure 77 of the text. It is supposed to determine whether a destination node is reachable from an origin node. However it appears that the code goes into an infinite loop except for the most trivial case where the origin and destination nodes are the same. ;; find-route : node node graph -> (listof node) or false ;; to create a path from origination to destination in G ;; if there is no path, the function produces false (define (find-route origination destination G) (cond [(symbol=? origination destination) (list destination)] [else (local ((define possible-route (find-route/list (neighbors origination G) destination G))) (cond [(boolean? possible-route) false] [else (cons origination possible-route)]))])) ;; find-route/list : (listof node) node graph -> (listof node) or false ;; to create a path from some node on lo-Os to D ;; if there is no path, the function produces false (define (find-route/list lo-Os D G) (cond [(empty? lo-Os) false] [else (local ((define possible-route (find-route (first lo-Os) D G))) (cond [(boolean? possible-route) (find-route/list (rest lo-Os) D G)] [else possible-route]))])) Does the problem lie in my code? Thank you.

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  • How to get the first non-null value in Java?

    - by froadie
    Is there a Java equivalent of SQL's COALESCE function? That is, is there any way to return the first non-null value of several variables? e.g. Double a = null; Double b = 4.4; Double c = null; I want to somehow have a statement that will return the first non-null value of a, b, and c - in this case, it would return b, or 4.4. (Something like the sql method - return COALESCE(a,b,c)). I know that I can do it explicitly with something like: return a != null ? a : (b != null ? b : c) But I wondered if there was any built-in, accepted function to accomplish this.

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  • Why I am not getting Row value on click using this?

    - by rockers
    $("#grid td:first-child").click(function() { var value = $(this).closest('tr').find('td:eq(2)').text(); // for third column alert(value); var value = $(this).closest('tr').find('td:eq(3)').text(); // for fourth column alert(value); var AccountName = accountid; var x = function() { $(this).click($("#showregiongrid").load('/analyst/ror/regionspeexc/?a=' + AccountName)); } clickTimer = window.setTimeout(x, 300); }); Why i am not getting the row values of eq(2) and eq(3).. is there anyting I am doing wrong? if I delete td:first-child from my click event I am getting null vallues on popup? thanks

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  • Does the <script> tag position in HTML affects performance of the webpage?

    - by Rahul Joshi
    If the script tag is above or below the body in a HTML page, does it matter for the performance of a website? And what if used in between like this: <body> ..blah..blah.. <script language="JavaScript" src="JS_File_100_KiloBytes"> function f1() { .. some logic reqd. for manipulating contents in a webpage } </script> ... some text here too ... </body> Or is this better?: <script language="JavaScript" src="JS_File_100_KiloBytes"> function f1() { .. some logic reqd. for manipulating contents in a webpage } </script> <body> ..blah..blah.. ..call above functions on some events like onclick,onfocus,etc.. </body> Or this one?: <body> ..blah..blah.. ..call above functions on some events like onclick,onfocus,etc.. <script language="JavaScript" src="JS_File_100_KiloBytes"> function f1() { .. some logic reqd. for manipulating contents in a webpage } </script> </body> Need not tell everything is again in the <html> tag!! How does it affect performance of webpage while loading? Does it really? Which one is the best, either out of these 3 or some other which you know? And one more thing, I googled a bit on this, from which I went here: Best Practices for Speeding Up Your Web Site and it suggests put scripts at the bottom, but traditionally many people put it in <head> tag which is above the <body> tag. I know it's NOT a rule but many prefer it that way. If you don't believe it, just view source of this page! And tell me what's the better style for best performance.

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  • How do I use compiler intrinsic __fmul_?

    - by Eric Thoma
    I am writing a massively parallel GPU application. I have been optimizing it by hand. I received a 20% performance increase with _fdividef(x, y), and according to The Cuda C Programming Guide (section C.2.1), using similar functions for multiplication and adding is also beneficial. The function is stated as this: "_fmulrn,rz,ru,rd". __fdividef(x,y) was not stated with the arguments in brackets. I was wondering, what are those brackets? If I run the simple code: int t = __fmul_(5,4); I a compiler error about how _fmul is undefined. I have the CUDA runtime included, so I don't think it is a setup thing; rather it is something to do with those square brackets. How do I correctly use this function? Thank you.

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  • Intellisense in Visual Studio 2010

    - by Erik
    For some reason the Intellisense in vb.net stopped working when I use an Aggregate Lambda expression inside a With statement. With Me.SalesPackage .WebLinks = Sales.Where(Function(f) f.Current.BookerWeb > 0).Count .WebAmount = Aggregate o In Sales.Where(Function(f) f.Current.WebBooker > 0) Into Sum(o.Current.WebPrice) End With If I insert a new line between .WebLinks and .WebAmount and start typing, it works. But it won't work if I do it after the Aggregate statement... Any ideas?

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  • "Reference required" error when referencing NServiceBus assembly from another project

    - by cwegrzyn
    We are trying to write an application that uses the NServiceBus library in a VB.NET environment. We've been stymied by errors similar to the following: Reference required to assembly 'NServiceBus, Version=2.0.0.1071, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=9fc386479f8a226c' containing the implemented interface 'NServiceBus.IMessageHandler`1'. Add one to your project. Our project already includes references to NServiceBus.dll and NServiceBus.Core.dll from the same NServiceBus 2.0 RC2 distribution. Steps to reproduce: Create a new VB Class Library Project (.NET 3.5) Add NServiceBus.dll and NServiceBus.Core.dll as References. Put the following code in Class1.vb: Imports NServiceBus.Sagas.Impl Class Test Public Function Foo() As SagaMessageHandler Return Nothing End Function End Class You should now see the compiler error mentioned above. An identical project written in C# has no compile errors. Any ideas about how to solve this problem? (And, yes, my preferred solution is switching to C#, but no, that's not an acceptable one at the moment.)

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  • Generic linked list in c++

    - by itsaboy
    I have been struggling for too long a time now with a rather simple question about how to create a generic linked list in c++. The list should be able contain several types of structs, but each list will only contain one type of struct. The problem arises when I want to implement the getNode() function [see below], because then I have to specify which of the structs it should return. I have tried to substitute the structs with classes, where the getNode function returns a base class that is inherited by all the other classes, but it still does not do the trick, since the compiler does not allow the getNode function to return anything but the base class then. So here is some code snippet: typedef struct struct1 { int param1; (...) } struct1; typedef struct struct2 { double param1; (...) } struct2; typedef struct node { struct1 data; node* link; } node; class LinkedList { public: node *first; int nbrOfNodes; LinkedList(); void addNode(struct1); struct1 getNode(); bool isEmpty(); }; LinkedList::LinkedList() { first = NULL; nbrOfNodes = 0; } void LinkedList::addNode(struct1 newData) { if (nbrOfNodes == 0) { first = new node; first->data = newData; } else { node *it = first; for (int i = 0; i < nbrOfNodes; i++) { it = it->link; } node *newNode = new node; newNode->data = newData; it->link = newNode; } nbrOfNodes++; } bool LinkedList::isEmpty() { return !nbrOfNodes; } struct1 LinkedList::getNode() { param1 returnData = first->data; node* deleteNode = first; nbrOfNodes--; if (nbrOfNodes) first = deleteNode->link; delete deleteNode; return returnData; } So the question, put in one sentence, is as follows: How do I adjust the above linked list class so that it can also be used for struct2, without having to create a new almost identical list class for struct2 objects? As I said above, each instance of LinkedList will only deal with either struct1 or struct2. Grateful for hints or help

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  • Code igniter authentication code in controller security question

    - by Prime Studios
    I have a main controller to handle the very front-end of my authentication system, it handles login, logout, update user info, etc. functions that I anticipate calling by POST'ing from views/forms. What about something like a "delete_user" function though? My thoughts are a button in someones admin panel would say "Delete Account" and it would post to "/auth/delete", and the function would delete the user based on their session username or id. This seems a bit open ended, you could send out a link to someone and when they opened it while in that application it would delete their account.. Whats the best way to handle this?

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  • R: How can I use apply on rows of a data.frame and get out $column_name?

    - by John
    I'm trying to access $a using the following example: df<-data.frame(a=c("x","x","y","y"),b=c(1,2,3,4)) > df a b 1 x 1 2 x 2 3 y 3 4 y 4 test_fun <- function (data.frame_in) { print (data.frame_in[1]) } I can now access $a if I use an index for the first column: apply(df, 1, test_fun) a "x" a "x" a "y" a "y" [1] "x" "x" "y" "y" But I cannot access column $a with the $ notation: error: "$ operator is invalid for atomic vectors" test_fun_2 <- function (data.frame_in) { print (data.frame_in$a) } >apply(df, 1, test_fun_2) Error in data.frame_in$a : $ operator is invalid for atomic vectors Is this not possible?

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  • Is recursion preferred compare to iteration in multicore era?

    - by prM
    Or say, do multicore CPUs process recursion faster than iteration? Or it simply depends on how one language runs on the machine? like c executes function calls with large cost, comparing to doing simple iterations. I had this question because one day I told one of my friend that recursion isn't any amazing magic that can speed up programs, and he told me that with multicore CPUs recursion can be faster than iteration. EDIT: If we consider the most recursion-loved situation (data structure, function call), is it even possible for recursion to be faster?

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  • require wp-load.php 3 directories back

    - by sman591
    I'm trying to include a file (/wp-load.php) at the beginning of the /html/ directory. I'm trying to include it from /wp-content/themes/pw-steel-orange/index-load.php, but I always get the error message Warning: require_once(../wp-load.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /nfs/c07/h01/mnt/102799/domains/platyworld.com/html/wp-content/themes/pw-steel-orange/index-load.php on line 1 Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '../wp-load.php' (include_path='.:/usr/local/php-5.2.6-1/share/pear') in /nfs/c07/h01/mnt/102799/domains/platyworld.com/html/wp-content/themes/pw-steel-orange/index-load.php on line 1 Am I doing something wrong? I though ../ brings the includes to the beginning directory Sorry if this is a duplicate, I couldn't find something related to this in my searches...

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  • different markers on google maps v3

    - by user1447313
    i need help again :( How i can add different markers to google map v3. here is example for may marker var latlng = new google.maps.LatLng(lat,lng); var image = "../img/hotel_icon.png"; var locationDescription = this.locationDescription; var marker = new google.maps.Marker({ map: map, position: latlng, title:'pk:'+name, icon: image }); bounds.extend(latlng); setMarkes(map, marker, name, locationDescription); });//close each map.fitBounds(bounds); });//close getjson }//close initialize function setMarkes(map, marker, name, locationDescription){ google.maps.event.addListener(marker, 'mouseover', function() { infowindow.close(); infowindow.setContent('<h3>'+name+'</h3><em>'+locationDescription+'</em>'); infowindow.open(map, marker); }); } is any help

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  • Which tool can list writing access to a specific variable in C?

    - by Lichtblitz
    Unfortunately I'm not even sure how this sort of static analysis is called. It's not really control flow analysis because I'm not looking for function calls and I don't really need data flow analysis because I don't care about the actual values. I just need a tool that lists the locations (file, function) where writing access to a specific variable takes place. I don't even care if that list contained lines that are unreachable. I could imagine that writing a simple parser could suffice for this task but I'm certain that there must be a tool out there that does this simple analysis. As a poor student I would appreciate free or better yet open source tools and if someone could tell me how this type of static analysis is actually called, I would be equally grateful! EDIT: I forgot to mention there's no pointer arithmetic in the code base.

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  • link .a and .o files in GCC

    - by David
    hi! I have two precompiled library: X.a and Y.a and a test.cpp (without main function) source code use these two libraries. I compiled the C++ using: g++ -c test.cpp and I got 'test.o'. Now how can I link these three together to generate a .a file because test.cpp use some function in X.a and Y.a and other GCC libraries? BTW, I am doing these under Windows using MinGW. Can I rename this .a file to .lib and use this .lib in VC? Thanks!

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  • rhino embedding

    - by neheh
    Anyone understands the rhino javascript Contexts? I cannot find any useful documentation about it. My main problem is the Context.exit() (really should be cx.exit()) which from what I understand exits the context associated with the current thread? Does that mean I need to keep track of what which thread does? main thread: Context cx; cx.evaluateReader( ... ) // load some function start thread 2 thread 2: Object o= scope.get("methodname", scope); ((Function)o).call( ... ) I do not plan on doing multithreading but what if the different setups comes from different threads?

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  • In PHP is faster to get a value from an if statement or from an array?

    - by Vittorio Vittori
    Maybe this is a stupid question but what is faster? <?php function getCss1 ($id = 0) { if ($id == 1) { return 'red'; } else if ($id == 2) { return 'yellow'; } else if ($id == 3) { return 'green'; } else if ($id == 4) { return 'blue'; } else if ($id == 5) { return 'orange'; } else { return 'grey'; } } function getCss2 ($id = 0) { $css[] = 'grey'; $css[] = 'red'; $css[] = 'yellow'; $css[] = 'green'; $css[] = 'blue'; $css[] = 'orange'; return $css[$id]; } echo getCss1(3); echo getCss2(3); ?> I suspect is faster the if statement but I prefere to ask!

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  • How do I get query string value from script path?

    - by TruMan1
    I am adding my Javsacript file in pages with different query strings in the script path like this: Page1: <script type="text/javascript" src="file.js?abc=123"></script> Page2: <script type="text/javascript" src="file.js?abc=456"></script> Page3: <script type="text/javascript" src="file.js?abc=789"></script> In my Javascript file, how can I get the value of the "abc" param? I tried using window.location for this, but that does not work. In case it helps, below is a function I use to find the value of a query string param: function getQuerystring(key, defaultValue) { if (defaultValue == null) defaultValue = ""; key = key.replace(/[\[]/, "\\\[").replace(/[\]]/, "\\\]"); var regex = new RegExp("[\\?&]" + key + "=([^&#]*)"); var qs = regex.exec(window.location.href); if (qs == null) return defaultValue; else return qs[1]; }

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  • PHP can be exclusively accessed by SWF

    - by brett
    I'm not sure how to describe this, but basically I have a PHP class file: class HelloHello { public function getSomeData($input_parameter){ // code to retrieve data from the database } public function deleteSomeData($input_parameter){ // code to delete data from the database } } This class is on the server and is part of the backend that connects with a database, and it's meant to be accessed by the frontend SWF only (not to be directly accessed). I've setup Flex to read this class and access it. But how do I make sure that someone doesn't develop a script that can call this php file directly and access its methods? For example using a script to add data in a fast automated way, or use the delete method directly, ouch. Is this a legitimate concern, or this can't be done?

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