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  • Real-world use cases for Smalltalk

    - by Andrea Spadaccini
    Hello, I've been playing a bit with Smalltalk, and I found it interesting. I know that there are some classical examples of Smalltalk: the Smalltalk images themselves and the Seaside web framework, and that there are lots of in-house custom applications built using this language. I'd like to know if: there are computer applications actively used and developed apart from the ones I mentioned. there are software houses that use Smalltalk for doing their job when would you use Smalltalk instead of another language for developing from scratch a new application

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  • Learning Smalltalk as a Java programmer

    - by VeeKay
    I am a Java programmer willing to learn smalltalk. As of now I am working within the Pharo environment. Trying to switch from Java to Smalltalk is being a bit of a headache, honestly. I would like to learn Smalltalk with the help of a code base available but I believe that there aren't many Smalltalk example projects available on the web. So are there any particular websites that involve learning Smalltalk (Pharo) based on some simple examples? Currently I am taking the help of Pharo By Example doc but I feel it is just not sufficient for me. I am looking for more some code examples in Smalltalk.

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  • GNU Smalltalk package

    - by Peter
    I've installed the GNU Smalltalk package and can get to the SmallTalk command line with the command 'gst'. However, I can't start the visual gst browser using the command: $ gst-browser When I try, this is what I get: peter@peredur:~$ gst-browser Object: CFunctionDescriptor new: 1 "<0x40488720>" error: Invalid C call-out gdk_colormap_get_type SystemExceptions.CInterfaceError(Smalltalk.Exception)>>signal (ExcHandling.st:254) SystemExceptions.CInterfaceError class(Smalltalk.Exception class)>>signal: (ExcHandling.st:161) Smalltalk.CFunctionDescriptor(Smalltalk.CCallable)>>callInto: (CCallable.st:165) GdkColormap class>>getType (GTK.star#VFS.ZipFile/Funcs.st:1) optimized [] in GLib class>>registerAllTypes (GTK.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkDecl.st:78) Smalltalk.OrderedCollection>>do: (OrderColl.st:68) GLib class>>registerAllTypes (GTK.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkDecl.st:78) Smalltalk.UndefinedObject>>executeStatements (GTK.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkImpl.st:1078) Object: CFunctionDescriptor new: 1 "<0x404a7c28>" error: Invalid C call-out gtk_window_new SystemExceptions.CInterfaceError(Exception)>>signal (ExcHandling.st:254) SystemExceptions.CInterfaceError class(Exception class)>>signal: (ExcHandling.st:161) CFunctionDescriptor(CCallable)>>callInto: (CCallable.st:165) GTK.GtkWindow class>>new: (GTK.star#VFS.ZipFile/Funcs.st:1) VisualGST.GtkDebugger(VisualGST.GtkMainWindow)>>initialize (VisualGST.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkMainWindow.st:131) VisualGST.GtkDebugger class(VisualGST.GtkMainWindow class)>>openSized: (VisualGST.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkMainWindow.st:19) [] in VisualGST.GtkDebugger class>>open: (VisualGST.star#VFS.ZipFile/Debugger/GtkDebugger.st:16) [] in BlockClosure>>forkDebugger (DebugTools.star#VFS.ZipFile/DebugTools.st:380) [] in Process>>onBlock:at:suspend: (Process.st:392) BlockClosure>>on:do: (BlkClosure.st:193) [] in Process>>onBlock:at:suspend: (Process.st:393) BlockClosure>>ensure: (BlkClosure.st:269) [] in Process>>onBlock:at:suspend: (Process.st:370) [] in BlockClosure>>asContext: (BlkClosure.st:179) BlockContext class>>fromClosure:parent: (BlkContext.st:68) Everything hangs at this point until I hit ^C, after which, I get: Object: CFunctionDescriptor new: 1 "<0x404a7c28>" error: Invalid C call-out gtk_window_new SystemExceptions.CInterfaceError(Exception)>>signal (ExcHandling.st:254) SystemExceptions.CInterfaceError class(Exception class)>>signal: (ExcHandling.st:161) CFunctionDescriptor(CCallable)>>callInto: (CCallable.st:165) GTK.GtkWindow class>>new: (GTK.star#VFS.ZipFile/Funcs.st:1) VisualGST.GtkDebugger(VisualGST.GtkMainWindow)>>initialize (VisualGST.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkMainWindow.st:131) VisualGST.GtkDebugger class(VisualGST.GtkMainWindow class)>>openSized: (VisualGST.star#VFS.ZipFile/GtkMainWindow.st:19) [] in VisualGST.GtkDebugger class>>open: (VisualGST.star#VFS.ZipFile/Debugger/GtkDebugger.st:16) [] in BlockClosure>>forkDebugger (DebugTools.star#VFS.ZipFile/DebugTools.st:380) [] in Process>>onBlock:at:suspend: (Process.st:392) BlockClosure>>on:do: (BlkClosure.st:193) [] in Process>>onBlock:at:suspend: (Process.st:393) BlockClosure>>ensure: (BlkClosure.st:269) [] in Process>>onBlock:at:suspend: (Process.st:370) [] in BlockClosure>>asContext: (BlkClosure.st:179) BlockContext class>>fromClosure:parent: (BlkContext.st:68) peter@peredur:~$ Is there a problem with this package?

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  • Run Smalltalk on server without GUI?

    - by Damir Horvat
    Hi! I've got rather distinct question - I'd like to run Smalltalk on a production server without using graphical interface. Is this possible with VW or Pharo (maybe even Squeak)? I've got a VPS hosting without X and would like to have few websites running on Smalltalk, while developing them localy with full-blown Smalltalk env, including GUI. Thanks, Damir

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  • Images or files in GNU Smalltalk?

    - by Marc
    Hi, I'm new to Smalltalk. I think I understand the basics of the language and now want to start with GNU Smalltalk (as it's free and has bindings for GTK). As I'm coming from the PHP and Java-Corner, I'm not familiar with the concept of the Smalltalk images. And I even read now, that you don't need to use images in GNU Smalltalk. Now I'm confused ;-) So is it possible to work with files and to include the classes I need with the PackageLoader class? I would be happy when I could use my favourite texteditor (vim) for coding instead of an IDE, too ;-) Please enlight me :-)

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  • GNU Smalltalk API?

    - by Zachary
    I have recently been learning Smalltalk, mainly by going through the tutorial at gnu.org. While it has been really helpful and I have learned a lot, I would really like an extensive smalltalk API where I could view all of the built in objects and which messages they can receive, and what they will do with those messages. The manual has a list of all of the built in objects, but doesn't really explain anything about them. Some are obvious, like an Array, but I still don't know what all the messages are an Array understands. There is a link to a 'class reference' here, which is generated by Smalltalk, but the link is broken. I was wondering if anyone knows of something like this hosted elsewhere, or could point me towards a similar resource.

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  • Returning messages in Smalltalk

    - by Zachary
    I have a Dictionary of objects I have created in smalltalk, which I am iterating over by enumerating it based on the key/value pairs. For value object in the dictionary, I am calling a method on that object. Based on certain conditions, I would like for this object to be able to add a new member to dictionary, and possibly delete another one. I've been looking at the 'Perform' and 'Messages' facilities in Smalltalk, but I'm not sure if it is even possible to do what I'm trying to do - is it possible to return a message (or multiple messages), which another object can process and perform? For example, could my method return 'removeKey: 19' and 'add object' at the same time? I am using GNU Smalltalk, if it matters.

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  • Dolphin Smalltalk - adding method

    - by bialpio
    Hi, I am trying to create a custom class in Dolphin Smalltalk. When I open the Workspace, type in and evaluate the code: Object subclass: #Sudoku instanceVariableNames: 'board' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'JiPP SudokuSolver'. everything works fine and the class is created and visible from Class Browser. The problem is, I want to add custom member method to this class, but without using Class Browser. Is it possible from the Workspace? I want to have one file with all the source code, so I don't have to worry about saving entire image.

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  • Smalltalk web development software

    - by Friedrich
    I try to be very cautious with this question. There are at least three different web-development frameworks available in Smalltalk. The most prominent seems to be Seaside but there is also AIDA/Web and Iliad. They seems to be very similiar, but this impresson may be wrong. I wonder who has tried the different tools and can share the pros/cons of the different packages. A more concrete question would be, do yo know of let's say any software in the bookkeeing area which has choosen to use either of the three (or other) web development frameworks.

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  • String to Integer Smalltalk

    - by Anton
    Pretty simple question I need to get an integer from the user and I only know how to get a string from them. So if there is a way to get an integer from the user or to convert the string to an integer please let me know.

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  • [Smalltalk] Store List of Instruction

    - by Luciano Lorenti
    Hi all, I have a design Problem. i have a Drawer class wich invokes a serie of methods of a kind-of-brush class and i have a predefined shapes which i want to draw. Each shape uses a list of instance methods from the drawer. I can have more than 1 brush object. I want to add custom shapes on runtime in the drawer instance, especifying the list of methods of the new shape. i've created a class method for every predefined shape that returns a BlockClosure with the instruccions. Obviously i have to give to each BlockClosure the brush object as parameter. I imagine a collection with all the BlockClosures in each instance of the Drawer Class. Maybe i can inherit a SequenceableCollection and make a instruccion collection. Each element of the collection it's a instruction and i give the brush object when i instance this new collection. I really don't know the best way to store these steps. (Maybe a shared variable?)

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  • Unix crypt() function in smalltalk/pharo

    - by jdinuncio
    Hello, I want to encode passwords for UNIX accounts using the crypt function. I'm using pharo 1.0. I tried to install the crypto package from squeakmap, but it gaves me an error and the package seem to get partially installed (categories without class). How can I get my password crypted? I'm willing to invoke external code, if it is required (and there's a package in SqueakMap that makes the trick in pharo). Thanks.

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  • Are there similarities between operating system kernels and programming language kernels?

    - by rahmu
    I know very little about Smalltalk but I noticed that there's a frequent mention of the "kernel". Dan Ingalls prime maintainer of several implementations of Smalltalk also worked on a Javascript environment called "Lively Kernel" and in Peter Siebel's book he kept mentionning the "kernel". I cannot help but think that it is no coincidence that the creators of Smalltalk used the name of a (central) part of operating systems to refer to a particular component of their language. Was it because Smalltalk intended to act as an operating system? Was it because theory behind programming languages and operating systems have a lot in common? What is the reason behind the common appelation of the two components?

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  • What's the relationship between meta-circular interpreters, virtual machines and increased performance?

    - by Gomi
    I've read about meta-circular interpreters on the web (including SICP) and I've looked into the code of some implementations (such as PyPy and Narcissus). I've read quite a bit about two languages which made great use of metacircular evaluation, Lisp and Smalltalk. As far as I understood Lisp was the first self-hosting compiler and Smalltalk had the first "true" JIT implementation. One thing I've not fully understood is how can those interpreters/compilers achieve so good performance or, in other words, why is PyPy faster than CPython? Is it because of reflection? And also, my Smalltalk research led me to believe that there's a relationship between JIT, virtual machines and reflection. Virtual Machines such as the JVM and CLR allow a great deal of type introspection and I believe they make great use it in Just-in-Time (and AOT, I suppose?) compilation. But as far as I know, Virtual Machines are kind of like CPUs, in that they have a basic instruction set. Are Virtual Machines efficient because they include type and reference information, which would allow language-agnostic reflection? I ask this because many both interpreted and compiled languages are now using bytecode as a target (LLVM, Parrot, YARV, CPython) and traditional VMs like JVM and CLR have gained incredible boosts in performance. I've been told that it's about JIT, but as far as I know JIT is nothing new since Smalltalk and Sun's own Self have been doing it before Java. I don't remember VMs performing particularly well in the past, there weren't many non-academic ones outside of JVM and .NET and their performance was definitely not as good as it is now (I wish I could source this claim but I speak from personal experience). Then all of a sudden, in the late 2000s something changed and a lot of VMs started to pop up even for established languages, and with very good performance. Was something discovered about the JIT implementation that allowed pretty much every modern VM to skyrocket in performance? A paper or a book maybe?

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  • I'm confused with block in ruby, compared to smalltalk.

    - by weakish
    What does block in ruby mean? It looks similar with smalltalk, but you can't send messages to it. For example, in smalltalk: [:x | x + 3] value: 3 returns 6. But in ruby: {|x| x + 3}.call 3 will cause SyntaxError. Well, you can pass messages to lambda in ruby, though: irb(main):025:0> ->(x){x+3}.call 3 => 6 So in ruby, block is not a block, but lambda is a block? Is this true? I mean, are there any differences between ruby lambda and smalltalk block? If this is true, then what is ruby block?

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  • What happened to VM based deployments?

    - by user128670
    Watched some MountainWest RubyConf 2014 talks and noticed an interesting theme. Many dynamic programming environments back in the old days used to be self-contained VM images, e.g. SmallTalk, GemStone/S. One could checkpoint, modify, and ship these images wholesale and have it up and running with very little effort. Fast forward to now and I'm still using Make files to configure and install binaries. What happened?

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  • data maintenance/migrations in image based sytems

    - by User
    Web applications usually have a database. The code and the database work hand in hand together. Therefore Frameworks like Ruby on Rails and Django create migration files Sure there are also servers written in Self or Smalltalk or other image-based systems that face the same problem: Code is not written on the server but in a separate image of the programmer. How do these systems deal with a changing schema, changing classes/prototypes. Which way do the migrations go? Example: What is the process of a new attribute going from programmer's idea to the server code and all objects? I found the Gemstone/S manual chapter 8 but it does not really talk about the process of shipping code to the server.

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  • Using fink to install from a website

    - by None
    I want to use fink to install smalltalk. I found this on the fink website. I was wondering if there was some way to install smalltalk from the url (sudo fink install smalltalk does not work). Is there a way to do this? Or do I not understand fink correctly?

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  • GNU Smalltalk text interface hard to use

    - by None
    I built GNU Smalltalk from source on my Mac because I couldn't get it working using fink and I found VMs like Squeak hard to understand. When I run the gst command it works fine, but unlike command line interfaces such the Python and Lua ones, it is hard to use because when I use the left or right arrow keys, I want the cursor to move left or right, but instead it inserts text like "^[[D". I understand why it does this but is there any way to fix it so it is more usable?

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  • Pharo 1.0, un environnement open-source dérivé de Squeak simple et épuré pour se mettre à Smalltalk

    Pharo 1.0, un environnement open-source dérivé de Squeak Simple et épuré pour se mettre à Smalltalk Comme vous le savez, Smalltalk est un langage interprété. Pour s'y mettre, il existe plusieurs environnements, comme Visualworks, ou un des plus connus : Squeak. Mais le moins que l'on puisse dire, c'est que Squeak ne fait l'unanimité. En dépit de la qualité indéniable de l'environnement, ses petits bugs, son UI et d'autres défauts ont eu raison de la motivation de nombreux développeurs qui ont voulu s'essayer au Samltalk avec lui. Des anciens membres impliqués dans le projet Squeak (les responsables de Squeak 3.9) ont donc décidé de lancer un fork. « Nous a...

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  • Non-Mainstream Languages, Bad for your resume?

    - by Joe
    Hi folks, I got my BS in Computer Science about seven years ago. I spent two years in neuroscience research and the next three providing what amounts to tech support. But I love computer programming - and I have since written, as a freelancer, non-trivial commercial code in Haskell, Smalltalk, and Objective-C. I used these languages because I find them rewarding, they make me a better programmer and thus, I thought, more attractive to companies. However the polar opposite has occured and I am now unhireable. The freelance market has bottomed out and I am looking for regular employment. But I am being repeatedly turned down, even for entry-level positions, because I don't specifically fit the requirements - eg. Java programmer with 2+ years with JUnit, JavaMail, Servlets etc. And none of the hiring managers, let alone the recruiters, have heard of either Haskell or Smalltalk and more disturbing is their thinly veiled contempt for my background. My question is , how should I market myself to these positions? Is anyone here in a similar position? What should I be doing different professionally? More broadly is this contempt for non-mainstream experience occurring everywhere or just my town? And if there are any hiring managers reading this, I'd love to hear your side. Please be brutally honest. thanks, joe

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