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• Dynamic tests with mstest and T4

  - by Victor Hurdugaci

  If you used mstest and NUnit you might be aware of the fact that the former doesn't support dynamic, data driven test cases. For example, the following scenario cannot be achieved with the out-of-box mstest: given a dataset, create distinct test cases for each entry in it, using a predefined generic test case. The best result that can be achieved using mstest is a single testcase that will iterate through the dataset. There is one disadvantage: if the test fails for one entry in the dataset, the whole test case fails. So, in order to overcome the previously mentioned limitation, I decided to create a text template that will generate the test cases for me. As an example, I will write some tests for an integer multiplication function that has 2 bugs in it: Read more >> [Cross post from victorhurdugaci.com]

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• Software, script or a tool to automate managing which tests to run

  - by laggingreflex

  I have a batch file that lists all the test files I have and asks me which test I want to perform, like Test. [U]nit, [I]ntegration : i (user input) Integration. [A]ll, [2][U]serInteraction, [3][R]esultGeneration : u 2 User Interaction. Running "mocha integration\2userint.js" ... So essentially I have configured a batch "option" for each test file I have, which I can choose to run individually or all together. But adding and removing tests is a pain. I have to update the batch file everytime a new file is added or changed. Is there a software, script or a tool, that does this automatically, or makes it easier for me to do so? I basically need it to be aware of and ask me which file(s) I want to test. A GUI with checkboxes would be ultimate! but I'll take anything. I'm working in node.js

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• Tip #15: How To Debug Unit Tests During Maven Builds

  - by ByronNevins

  It must be really really hard to step through unit tests in a debugger during a maven build.  Right? Wrong! Here is how i do it: 1) Set up these environmental variables: MAVEN_OPTS=-Xmx1024m -Xms256m -XX:MaxPermSize=512mMAVEN_OPTS_DEBUG=-Xmx1024m -Xms256m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m  -Xdebug (no line break here!!)  -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=y,address=9999MAVEN_OPTS_REG=-Xmx1024m -Xms256m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m 2) create 2 scripts or aliases like so:  maveny.bat: set MAVEN_OPTS=%MAVEN_OPTS_DEBUG% mavenn.bat: set MAVEN_OPTS=%MAVEN_OPTS_REG%    To debug do this: run maveny.bat run mvn install attach your debugger to port 9999 (set breakpoints of course) When maven gets to the unit test phase it will hit your breakpoint and wait for you. When done debugging simply run mavenn.bat Notes If it takes a while to do the build then you don't really need to set the suspend=y flag. If you set the suspend=n flag then you can just leave it -- but only one maven build can run at a time because of the debug port conflict.

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• Automated tests for differencing algorithm

  - by Matthew Rodatus

  We are designing a differencing algorithm (based on Longest Common Subsequence) that compares a source text and a modified copy to extract the new content (i.e. content that is only in the modified copy). I'm currently compiling a library of test case data. We need to be able to run automated tests that verify the test cases, but we don't want to verify strict accuracy. Given the heuristic nature of our algorithm, we need our test pass/failures to be fuzzy. We want to specify a threshold of overlap between the desired result and the actual result (i.e. the content that is extracted). I have a few sketches in my mind as to how to solve this, but has anyone done this before? Does anyone have guidance or ideas about how to do this effectively?

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• Google Analytics Content Experiments for non-simultaneous tests

  - by mnort9

  I really like how Google Analytics displays the results of content experiments. However, it seems the tool only works for simultaneous tests. I'd like to use the tool without implementing the page variation code into my site. For example, I want to test copy on an ecommerece category page. The original page variation would be the current page for the past 2500 visits. After making the copy changes, the new variation would be for the next 2500 visits. I realize I can simply record the metrics before and after each variation, but I'd like to take advantage of Google's presentation of the experiment. Is it possible to use the Content Experiments in this way?

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• New WebKit tests

  I have updated the WebKit comparison table with data from Safari 5, Chrome 5, and Android 2.1. Improvements throughout!The top five WebKit browsers according to these tests are now: Chrome 5 Safari 5 Safari 4 Samsung WebKit (on bada) Android 2.1Interesting findings: Chrome and Android now support localStorage (Safari already did). Chrome and Android now support geolocation. Safari does in theory, but it doesn’t give the actual coordinates, making the whole exercise a bit pointless. Chrome and Android...Did you know that DotNetSlackers also publishes .net articles written by top known .net Authors? We already have over 80 articles in several categories including Silverlight. Take a look: here.

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• What does well written, readable tests look like?

  - by Industrial

  Doing unit testing for the first time at a large scale, I find myself writing a lot of repetitive unit tests for my business logic. Sure, to create complete test suites I need to test all possibilities but readability feels compromised doing what I do - as shown in the psuedocode below. How would a well written, readable test suit look like? describe "UserEntity" -> it "valid name validates" ... it "invalid name doesnt validate" ... it "valid list of followers validate" ..

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• Writing the tests for FluentPath

  Writing the tests for FluentPath is a challenge. The library is a wrapper around a legacy API (System.IO) that wasnt designed to be easily testable. If it were more testable, the sensible testing methodology would be to tell System.IO to act against a mock file system, which would enable me to verify that my code is doing the expected file system operations without having to manipulate the actual, physical file system: what we are testing here is FluentPath, not System.IO. Unfortunately, that...Did you know that DotNetSlackers also publishes .net articles written by top known .net Authors? We already have over 80 articles in several categories including Silverlight. Take a look: here.

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• Need a push in the write direction, to write my first functional test in Rails?

  - by Jason

  Hi, I've read quiet a bit of documentation over the last few days about testing in Rails, I'm sitting down to write my first real test and not 100% sure how to tie what I have learned together to achieve the following functional test (testing a controller) I need to send a GET request to a URL and pass 3 parameters (simple web-service), if the functionality works the keyword "true" is simply returned, otherwise the keyword "false" is returned - its in only value returned & not contained in any , or other tags. The test should assert that if "true" is returned the test is successful. This is probably very simple so apologies for such a non-challenging question. If anyone could point me in the write direction on how I can get started, particularly how I can test the response, I'd be very grateful! Thanks!

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• Understanding EDI 997.

  - by VishnuTiwariBlog

  Hi Guys, This is for the EDI starter. Below is the complete detail of EDI 997 segment and element details. 997 Functional Acknowledgment Transaction Layout: No. Seg ID Name Description Example M/O 010 ST Transaction Set Header To indicate the start of a transaction set and to assign a control number ST*997*382823~   M ST01   Code uniquely identifying a Transaction Set   M ST02   Identifying control number that must be unique within the transaction set functional group assigned by the originator for a transaction set   M 020 AK1 Functional Group Response Header To start acknowledgment of a functional group AK1*QM*2459823 M        AK101   Code identifying a group of application related transaction sets IN Invoice Information (810) SH Ship Notice/Manifest (856)     AK102   Assigned number originated and maintained by the sender     030 AK2 Transaction Set Response Header To start acknowledgment of a single transaction set AK2*856*001 M AK201   Code uniquely identifying a Transaction Set 810 Invoice 856 Ship Notice/Manifest   M AK202   Identifying control number that must be unique within the transaction set functional group assigned by the originator for a transaction set   M 040 AK3 Data Segment Note To report errors in a data segment and identify the location of the data segment AK3*TD3*9 O AK301 Segment ID Code Code defining the segment ID of the data segment in error (See Appendix A - Number 77)     AK302 Segment Position in Transaction Set The numerical count position of this data segment from the start of the transaction set: the transaction set header is count position 1     050 AK4 Data Element Note To report errors in a data element or composite data structure and identify the location of the data element AK4*2**2 O AK401 Position in Segment Code indicating the relative position of a simple data element, or the relative position of a composite data structure combined with the relative position of the component data element within the composite data structure, in error; the count starts with 1 for the simple data element or composite data structure immediately following the segment ID     AK402 Element Position in Segment This is used to indicate the relative position of a simple data element, or the relative position of a composite data structure with the relative position of the component within the composite data structure, in error; in the data segment the count starts with 1 for the simple data element or composite data structure immediately following the segment ID     AK403 Data Element Syntax Error Code Code indicating the error found after syntax edits of a data element 1 Mandatory Data Element Missing 2 Conditional Required Data Element Missing 3 Too Many Data Elements 4 Data Element Too Short 5 Data Element Too Long 6 Invalid Character in Data Element 7 Invalid Code Value 8 Invalid Date 9 Invalid Time 10 Exclusion Condition Violated     AK404 Copy of Bad Data Element This is a copy of the data element in error     060 AK5 AK5 Transaction Set Response Trailer To acknowledge acceptance or rejection and report errors in a transaction set AK5*A~ AK5*R*5~ M AK501 Transaction Set Acknowledgment Code Code indicating accept or reject condition based on the syntax editing of the transaction set A Accepted E Accepted But Errors Were Noted R Rejected     AK502 Transaction Set Syntax Error Code Code indicating error found based on the syntax editing of a transaction set 1 Transaction Set Not Supported 2 Transaction Set Trailer Missing 3 Transaction Set Control Number in Header and Trailer Do Not Match 4 Number of Included Segments Does Not Match Actual Count 5 One or More Segments in Error 6 Missing or Invalid Transaction Set Identifier 7 Missing or Invalid Transaction Set Control Number     070 AK9 Functional Group Response Trailer To acknowledge acceptance or rejection of a functional group and report the number of included transaction sets from the original trailer, the accepted sets, and the received sets in this functional group AK9*A*1*1*1~ AK9*R*1*1*0~ M AK901 Functional Group Acknowledge Code Code indicating accept or reject condition based on the syntax editing of the functional group A Accepted E Accepted, But Errors Were Noted. R Rejected     AK902 Number of Transaction Sets Included Total number of transaction sets included in the functional group or interchange (transmission) group terminated by the trailer containing this data element     AK903 Number of Received Transaction Sets Number of Transaction Sets received     AK904 Number of Accepted Transaction Sets Number of accepted Transaction Sets in a Functional Group     AK905 Functional Group Syntax Error Code Code indicating error found based on the syntax editing of the functional group header and/or trailer 1 Functional Group Not Supported 2 Functional Group Version Not Supported 3 Functional Group Trailer Missing 4 Group Control Number in the Functional Group Header and Trailer Do Not Agree 5 Number of Included Transaction Sets Does Not Match Actual Count 6 Group Control Number Violates Syntax     080 SE Transaction Set Trailer To indicate the end of the transaction set and provide the count of the transmitted segments (including the beginning (ST) and ending (SE) segments) SE*9*223~ M SE01 Number of Included Segments Total number of segments included in a transaction set including ST and SE segments     SE02 Transaction Set Control Number Identifying control number that must be unique within the transaction set functional group assigned by the originator for a transaction set

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• Understanding EDI 997

  - by VishnuTiwariBlog

  Hi Guys, This is for the EDI starter. Below is the complete detail of EDI 997 segment and element details. 997 Functional Acknowledgment Transaction Layout:   No. Seg ID Name Description Example M/O 010 ST Transaction Set Header To indicate the start of a transaction set and to assign a control number ST*997*382823~   M ST01   Code uniquely identifying a Transaction Set   M ST02   Identifying control number that must be unique within the transaction set functional group assigned by the originator for a transaction set   M 020 AK1 Functional Group Response Header To start acknowledgment of a functional group AK1*QM*2459823 M        AK101   Code identifying a group of application related transaction sets IN Invoice Information (810) SH Ship Notice/Manifest (856)     AK102   Assigned number originated and maintained by the sender     030 AK2 Transaction Set Response Header To start acknowledgment of a single transaction set AK2*856*001 M AK201   Code uniquely identifying a Transaction Set 810 Invoice 856 Ship Notice/Manifest   M AK202   Identifying control number that must be unique within the transaction set functional group assigned by the originator for a transaction set   M 040 AK3 Data Segment Note To report errors in a data segment and identify the location of the data segment AK3*TD3*9 O AK301 Segment ID Code Code defining the segment ID of the data segment in error (See Appendix A - Number 77)     AK302 Segment Position in Transaction Set The numerical count position of this data segment from the start of the transaction set: the transaction set header is count position 1     050 AK4 Data Element Note To report errors in a data element or composite data structure and identify the location of the data element AK4*2**2 O AK401 Position in Segment Code indicating the relative position of a simple data element, or the relative position of a composite data structure combined with the relative position of the component data element within the composite data structure, in error; the count starts with 1 for the simple data element or composite data structure immediately following the segment ID     AK402 Element Position in Segment This is used to indicate the relative position of a simple data element, or the relative position of a composite data structure with the relative position of the component within the composite data structure, in error; in the data segment the count starts with 1 for the simple data element or composite data structure immediately following the segment ID     AK403 Data Element Syntax Error Code Code indicating the error found after syntax edits of a data element 1 Mandatory Data Element Missing 2 Conditional Required Data Element Missing 3 Too Many Data Elements 4 Data Element Too Short 5 Data Element Too Long 6 Invalid Character in Data Element 7 Invalid Code Value 8 Invalid Date 9 Invalid Time 10 Exclusion Condition Violated     AK404 Copy of Bad Data Element This is a copy of the data element in error     060 AK5 AK5 Transaction Set Response Trailer To acknowledge acceptance or rejection and report errors in a transaction set AK5*A~ AK5*R*5~ M AK501 Transaction Set Acknowledgment Code Code indicating accept or reject condition based on the syntax editing of the transaction set A Accepted E Accepted But Errors Were Noted R Rejected     AK502 Transaction Set Syntax Error Code Code indicating error found based on the syntax editing of a transaction set 1 Transaction Set Not Supported 2 Transaction Set Trailer Missing 3 Transaction Set Control Number in Header and Trailer Do Not Match 4 Number of Included Segments Does Not Match Actual Count 5 One or More Segments in Error 6 Missing or Invalid Transaction Set Identifier 7 Missing or Invalid Transaction Set Control Number     070 AK9 Functional Group Response Trailer To acknowledge acceptance or rejection of a functional group and report the number of included transaction sets from the original trailer, the accepted sets, and the received sets in this functional group AK9*A*1*1*1~ AK9*R*1*1*0~ M AK901 Functional Group Acknowledge Code Code indicating accept or reject condition based on the syntax editing of the functional group A Accepted E Accepted, But Errors Were Noted. R Rejected     AK902 Number of Transaction Sets Included Total number of transaction sets included in the functional group or interchange (transmission) group terminated by the trailer containing this data element     AK903 Number of Received Transaction Sets Number of Transaction Sets received     AK904 Number of Accepted Transaction Sets Number of accepted Transaction Sets in a Functional Group     AK905 Functional Group Syntax Error Code Code indicating error found based on the syntax editing of the functional group header and/or trailer 1 Functional Group Not Supported 2 Functional Group Version Not Supported 3 Functional Group Trailer Missing 4 Group Control Number in the Functional Group Header and Trailer Do Not Agree 5 Number of Included Transaction Sets Does Not Match Actual Count 6 Group Control Number Violates Syntax     080 SE Transaction Set Trailer To indicate the end of the transaction set and provide the count of the transmitted segments (including the beginning (ST) and ending (SE) segments) SE*9*223~ M SE01 Number of Included Segments Total number of segments included in a transaction set including ST and SE segments     SE02 Transaction Set Control Number Identifying control number that must be unique within the transaction set functional group assigned by the originator for a transaction set

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• Is a functional spec a part of the System requirement spec?

  - by user970696

  I wonder, sources like wikipedia or templates I found shows that Functional spec is a part of System requirement documents. I always thought that SRD is just overall decsription of the system, with all functional and non functional requirements. Yet I thought that Functional spec is more detailed and it is a separate document, while SRD is high level customer-created description (how is this one called then?) Could anyone help to make this clear for me?

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• TeamCity sends inadequate responses after Selenium tests

  - by Dmitriy Sukharev

  I have a TeamCity 7.0.2 at CentOS 6.2 server without X Server. I've installed x11-fonts*, xvfb, firefox, xauth, extracted env. variable DISPLAY=localhost:1, and started xvfb. After that I could start Selenium tests using maven. Tests are executed, but there's an issue with TeamCity. Usually TeamCity starts hehaves absolutely inadequate (it confuses images at the page, sends xml or strange text ampersants and numbers in responses and is a bit slower), also tests are executed 4 times slower (1h 15m) at server than at tester Windows 7-based machine (25m). It worth to notice that tests launch two Jetty servers for tested application (one for REST-services application and another for client). In TeamCity I set JVM command line parameters: -Xms256m -Xmx1224m -XX:MaxPermSize=320m, and Additional Maven command line parameters ends with "-DMAVEN_OPTS=-Xmx1024m" (without quotes). Also both web-services and TeamCity uses the same Oracle server (but different Oracle users). Finally TeamCity and its build agent is at the same server. Server has only 4GB of RAM, but during testing there're 400MB of RAM and 1.2GB of swap. TeamCity and Firefox uses about 65% of CPU during testing. There's no firefox process after end of testing. My knowledge about Selenium is weak. I only know that we use 2.20.0 version of selenium-java maven dependency. Please help me to determine why TeamCity sends wrong responces after Selenium tests. I've tried to give you all information I have, but feel free to ask me for more information.

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• Ethernet run tests green but won't connect

  - by Simon Gillbee

  I have a single ethernet run at home that I just added. I have a cable tester that tests for pin/pair crossover or miswired pins. The entire line tests green (all 4 LEDs light up green on the tester) but I can't get any PC to connect through the link. No link light on the ethernet connection. Any simple tests/fixes, or do I rip out the wall sockets and do it again?

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• Ethernet run tests green but won't connect

  - by Simon Gillbee

  I have a single ethernet run at home that I just added. I have a cable tester that tests for pin/pair crossover or miswired pines. The entire line tests green (all 4 LEDs light up green on the tester) but I can't get any PC to connect through the link. No link light on the ethernet connection. Any simple tests/fixes, or do I rip out the wall sockets and do it again?

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• automated GUI tests fails when running from Jenkins

  - by adm

  Jenkins(master) is installed on the Linux system and runs automated tests on the node slave (Win-XP) via ssh connection. But all the GUi tests are failed, when GUI tests are running locally(WINXP system) testst are passed. I tried tscon.exe 0 /dest:console for forwards the calls to the console but I am getting the error: Could not connect sessionID 0 to sessionname console, Error code 7045 Error [7045]:The requested session access is denied. thanks

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• Weirdness with cabal, HTF, and HUnit assertions

  - by rampion

  So I'm trying to use HTF to run some HUnit-style assertions % cat tests/TestDemo.hs {-# OPTIONS_GHC -Wall -F -pgmF htfpp #-} module Main where import Test.Framework import Test.HUnit.Base ((@?=)) import System.Environment (getArgs) -- just run some tests main :: IO () main = getArgs >>= flip runTestWithArgs Main.allHTFTests -- all these tests should fail test_fail_int1 :: Assertion test_fail_int1 = (0::Int) @?= (1::Int) test_fail_bool1 :: Assertion test_fail_bool1 = True @?= False test_fail_string1 :: Assertion test_fail_string1 = "0" @?= "1" test_fail_int2 :: Assertion test_fail_int2 = [0::Int] @?= [1::Int] test_fail_string2 :: Assertion test_fail_string2 = "true" @?= "false" test_fail_bool2 :: Assertion test_fail_bool2 = [True] @?= [False] And when I use ghc --make, it seems to work correctly. % ghc --make tests/TestDemo.hs [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( tests/TestDemo.hs, tests/TestDemo.o ) Linking tests/TestDemo ... % tests/TestDemoA ... * Tests: 6 * Passed: 0 * Failures: 6 * Errors: 0 Failures: * Main:fail_int1 (tests/TestDemo.hs:9) * Main:fail_bool1 (tests/TestDemo.hs:12) * Main:fail_string1 (tests/TestDemo.hs:15) * Main:fail_int2 (tests/TestDemo.hs:19) * Main:fail_string2 (tests/TestDemo.hs:22) * Main:fail_bool2 (tests/TestDemo.hs:25) But when I use cabal to build it, not all the tests that should fail, fail. % cat Demo.cabal ... executable test-demo build-depends: base >= 4, HUnit, HTF main-is: TestDemo.hs hs-source-dirs: tests % cabal configure Resolving dependencies... Configuring Demo-0.0.0... % cabal build Preprocessing executables for Demo-0.0.0... Building Demo-0.0.0... [1 of 1] Compiling Main ( tests/TestDemo.hs, dist/build/test-demo/test-demo-tmp/Main.o ) Linking dist/build/test-demo/test-demo ... % dist/build/test-demo/test-demo ... * Tests: 6 * Passed: 3 * Failures: 3 * Errors: 0 Failures: * Main:fail_int2 (tests/TestDemo.hs:23) * Main:fail_string2 (tests/TestDemo.hs:26) * Main:fail_bool2 (tests/TestDemo.hs:29) What's going wrong and how can I fix it?

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• Haskell vs Erlang for web services

  - by Zachary K

  I am looking to start an experimental project using a functional language and am trying to decide beween Erlang and Haskell, and both have some points that I really like. I like Haskell's strong type system and purity. I have a feeling it will make it easier to write really reliable code. And I think that the power of haskell will make some of what I want to do much easier. On the minus side I get the feeling that some of the Frameworks for doing web stuff on Haskell such as Yesod are not as advanced as their Erlang counter parts. I rather like the Erlang approach to threads and to fault tollerence. I have a feeling that the scalability of Erlang could be a major plus. Which leeds to to my question, what has people's exerience been in implementing web application backends in both Haskell and Erlang. Are there packages for Haskell to provide some of the lightweight threads and actors that one has in Erlang?

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• Code Reuse and Abstraction in FP vs OOP

  - by Electric Coffee

  I've been told that code reuse and abstraction in OOP is far more difficult to do than it is in FP, and that all the claims that have been made about Object Orientedness (for lack of a better term) being great at reusing code have been flat out lies So I was wondering if anyone here could tell me why that is, and perhaps show me some code to back up these claims, I'm not saying I don't believe you Functional programmers, it's just that I've been "indoctrinated" to think Object Orientedly, and thus can't (yet) think Functionally enough to see it myself To quote Jimmy Hoffa (from an answer to one of my previous questions): The cake is a lie, code reuse in OO is far more difficult than in FP. For all that OO has claimed code reuse over the years, I have seen it follow through a minimum of times. (feel free to just say I must be doing it wrong, I'm comfortable with how well I write OO code having had to design and maintain OO systems for years, I know the quality of my own results) That quote is the basis of my question, I want to see if there's anything to the claim or not

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• Writing use cases for XML mapping scenarios between two different systems

  - by deepak_prn

  I am having some trouble writing use cases for XML mapping after a certain trigger invoked by the system. For example, one of the scenarios goes: the store cashier sells an item, the transaction data is sent to Data management system. Now, I am writing a functional design for the scenario which deals with mapping XML fields between our system and the data management system. Question : I was wondering if some one had to deal with writing use cases or extension use cases for mapping XML fields between two systems? (There is no XSLT involved) and if you used a table to represent the fields mapping (example is below) or any other visualization tool which does not break the bank ? I searched many questions on SO and here but nothing came close to my requirement.

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• C++11 support for higher-order list functions

  - by Giorgio

  Most functional programming languages (e.g. Common Lisp, Scheme / Racket, Clojure, Haskell, Scala, Ocaml, SML) support some common higher-order functions on lists, such as map, filter, takeWhile, dropWhile, foldl, foldr (see e.g. Common Lisp, Scheme / Racket, Clojure side-by-side reference sheet, the Haskell, Scala, OCaml, and the SML documentation.) Does C++11 have equivalent standard methods or functions on lists? For example, consider the following Haskell snippet: let xs = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] let ys = map (\x -> x * x) xs How can I express the second expression in modern standard C++? std::list<int> xs = ... // Initialize the list in some way. std::list<int> ys = ??? // How to translate the Haskell expression? What about the other higher-order functions mentioned above? Can they be directly expressed in C++?

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• How Does The Maybe Monad Relate To The Option Type?

  - by Onorio Catenacci

  I was doing a presentation on F# and was discussing the Option type when someone in the audience asked me if the Option type is F#'s implementation of the maybe monad. I know that's not the case but I did want to ask how the two concepts are related. I mean it seems to me that an option type might be the result of the operation of a maybe monad but I'm not even sure of that. Would someone elucidate the relationship between the maybe monad and the option type in those functional languages which support it?

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• What should I learn from Scheme?

  - by bunglestink

  I was wondering what unique features I can learn from Scheme that would help me become a better programmer? I have a lot experience in mainstream languages, and I am looking to expand my horizons and learn about functional aspects that are missing from other languages. I am familiar with closures from javascript, lambda expressions from C#, and I was wondering what I can focus on that is lacking in other languages? Aside from the Lisp syntax, I feel like what I have seen so far I've already encountered in other languages. What is unique to Scheme/Lisp that will teach me something new?

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• Does FP mess up your OOP skills?

  - by bonomo

  I've been learning functional programming in Haskell and F# for awhile and now when I got some skills it gets harder for me to think in OOP way and program in C# and JavaScript. Everything seems to be ass-backwards there with classes, interfaces, objects and I often stare at the screen trying to think of a better way around without using them. This is something that scares me, because I didn't have problems like that before (not knowing that the same stuff can be done in a different way). So I am concerned as I don't want to loose myself as a OOP developer, because this is what I do for living. Is it a normal thing? Shall I rather stop doing FP? How did you manage to cope with it?

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• what is the purpose of arrows?

  - by Simon

  I am learning functionnal programming with Haskell, and I try to grab concepts by first understanding why do I need them. I would like to know the goal of arrows in functional programming languages. What problem do they solve? I checked http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/Understanding_arrows and http://www.cse.chalmers.se/~rjmh/afp-arrows.pdf. All I understand is that they are used to describe graphs for computations, and that they allow easier point free style coding. The article assume that point free style is generally easier to understand and to write. This seems quite subjective to me. In another article (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/StephensArrowTutorial#Hangman:_Main_program), a hangman game is implemented, but I cannot see how arrows makes this implementation natural. I could find a lot of papers describing the concept, but nothing about the motivation. What I am missing?

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