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• "ID 046d:c50e Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse Receiver" wheel-click is wrong

  - by sputnick

  I use this mouse under archlinux x86_64 with 3.2.8-1-ARCH kernel. I have some problems to select and then paste with the wheel-click in some applications like konversation, not in a terminal nor an editor. I don't know if it's a hardware problem or a software one. $ lsusb -v Bus 002 Device 110: ID 046d:c50e Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse Receiver Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x046d Logitech, Inc. idProduct 0xc50e Cordless Mouse Receiver bcdDevice 25.10 iManufacturer 1 Logitech iProduct 2 USB RECEIVER iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 34 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xa0 (Bus Powered) Remote Wakeup MaxPower 70mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass bInterfaceProtocol 2 Mouse iInterface 0 HID Device Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 33 bcdHID 1.11 bCountryCode 0 Not supported bNumDescriptors 1 bDescriptorType 34 Report wDescriptorLength 95 Report Descriptors: ** UNAVAILABLE ** Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0008 1x 8 bytes bInterval 10 Device Status: 0x0000 (Bus Powered) When I see what's happens in xev, the output is different compared to another mouse My buggy Logitech mouse : ButtonPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x4400002, time 170350700, (48,52), root:(1491,75), state 0x10, button 11, same_screen YES EnterNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 170350700, (48,52), root:(1491,75), mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES, focus YES, state 16 KeymapNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys: 90 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ButtonPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x4400002, time 170350716, (48,52), root:(1491,75), state 0x10, button 6, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x4400002, time 170350716, (48,52), root:(1491,75), state 0x10, button 6, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x4400002, time 170350988, (48,52), root:(1491,75), state 0x10, button 11, same_screen YES LeaveNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 170350988, (48,52), root:(1491,75), mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES, focus YES, state 16 a working mouse (dell) : ButtonPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x4400002, time 170245131, (46,32), root:(1489,55), state 0x10, button 2, same_screen YES EnterNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 170245131, (46,32), root:(1489,55), mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES, focus YES, state 528 KeymapNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys: 90 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ButtonRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x4400002, time 170245411, (46,32), root:(1489,55), state 0x210, button 2, same_screen YES LeaveNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4400001, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 170245411, (46,32), root:(1489,55), mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES, focus YES, state 16 A demo of the problem when I use konversation (IRC) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmr92M7NCc I tried to modify the button map with xmodmap like this with no success (one at a time) : xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 0 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 1 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 4 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 5 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 6 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 7 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 8 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 9 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 10 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 11 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 12 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 13 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 14 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 15 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 16 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 17 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 18 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 19 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 20 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 21 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 22 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 23 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 24 3" xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 25 3" Any clue ? I would like to avoid buying a new mouse just for a paste problem.

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• Continuing Education as a Part of Your Job [closed]

  - by Mike

  I work as a programmer for a mid-sized company (about 500 employees) in the medical industry. Before that I worked at a custom software development/consulting company. At both companies programmers were never officially given time to continue their education through taking classes, reading books or blogs, or doing research relevant to the job. At the software development company we were offered some money to pay for a class, but not offered any time off of work to take the class. I have been wondering, do most employers of programmers give time off of work to take a class, read a book, or do job related research? By time off of work I just mean some period of time where you can stop development; it does not have to mean leaving the office. I would be grateful to hear about everyone's experience with this.

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• Opening programs very slow on ubuntu 12.10

  - by Mislav Blaževic

  When I open any program for first time after boot, it loads VERY slowly (Doesn't matter how long after boot). For example, terminal takes 2-3 seconds, skype and firefox often take much longer. If I close it and open again, it loads in reasonable time (<1 second). I got Intel Core i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz, so it shouldn't be hardware issue... What is causing this? Disk benchmark: Average read time: 115.5 MB/s (100 samples) Average write time: 98.7 MB/s (100 samples) Average access time: 11.79 msec (1000 samples)

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• Microbenchmark showing process-switching faster than thread-switching; what's wrong?

  - by Yang

  I have two simple microbenchmarks trying to measure thread- and process-switching overheads, but the process-switching overhead. The code is living here, and r1667 is pasted below: https://assorted.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/assorted/sandbox/trunk/src/c/process_switch_bench.c // on zs, ~2.1-2.4us/switch #include <stdlib.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <stdint.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <semaphore.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <sys/wait.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/time.h> #include <pthread.h> uint32_t COUNTER; pthread_mutex_t LOCK; pthread_mutex_t START; sem_t *s0, *s1, *s2; void * threads ( void * unused ) { // Wait till we may fire away sem_wait(s2); for (;;) { pthread_mutex_lock(&LOCK); pthread_mutex_unlock(&LOCK); COUNTER++; sem_post(s0); sem_wait(s1); } return 0; } int64_t timeInMS () { struct timeval t; gettimeofday(&t, NULL); return ( (int64_t)t.tv_sec * 1000 + (int64_t)t.tv_usec / 1000 ); } int main ( int argc, char ** argv ) { int64_t start; pthread_t t1; pthread_mutex_init(&LOCK, NULL); COUNTER = 0; s0 = sem_open("/s0", O_CREAT, 0022, 0); if (s0 == 0) { perror("sem_open"); exit(1); } s1 = sem_open("/s1", O_CREAT, 0022, 0); if (s1 == 0) { perror("sem_open"); exit(1); } s2 = sem_open("/s2", O_CREAT, 0022, 0); if (s2 == 0) { perror("sem_open"); exit(1); } int x, y, z; sem_getvalue(s0, &x); sem_getvalue(s1, &y); sem_getvalue(s2, &z); printf("%d %d %d\n", x, y, z); pid_t pid = fork(); if (pid) { pthread_create(&t1, NULL, threads, NULL); pthread_detach(t1); // Get start time and fire away start = timeInMS(); sem_post(s2); sem_post(s2); // Wait for about a second sleep(1); // Stop thread pthread_mutex_lock(&LOCK); // Find out how much time has really passed. sleep won't guarantee me that // I sleep exactly one second, I might sleep longer since even after being // woken up, it can take some time before I gain back CPU time. Further // some more time might have passed before I obtained the lock! int64_t time = timeInMS() - start; // Correct the number of thread switches accordingly COUNTER = (uint32_t)(((uint64_t)COUNTER * 2 * 1000) / time); printf("Number of process switches in about one second was %u\n", COUNTER); printf("roughly %f microseconds per switch\n", 1000000.0 / COUNTER); // clean up kill(pid, 9); wait(0); sem_close(s0); sem_close(s1); sem_unlink("/s0"); sem_unlink("/s1"); sem_unlink("/s2"); } else { if (1) { sem_t *t = s0; s0 = s1; s1 = t; } threads(0); // never return } return 0; } https://assorted.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/assorted/sandbox/trunk/src/c/thread_switch_bench.c // From <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/304752/how-to-estimate-the-thread-context-switching-overhead> // on zs, ~4-5us/switch; tried making COUNTER updated only by one thread, but no difference #include <stdlib.h> #include <stdint.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <pthread.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <sys/time.h> uint32_t COUNTER; pthread_mutex_t LOCK; pthread_mutex_t START; pthread_cond_t CONDITION; void * threads ( void * unused ) { // Wait till we may fire away pthread_mutex_lock(&START); pthread_mutex_unlock(&START); int first=1; pthread_mutex_lock(&LOCK); // If I'm not the first thread, the other thread is already waiting on // the condition, thus Ihave to wake it up first, otherwise we'll deadlock if (COUNTER > 0) { pthread_cond_signal(&CONDITION); first=0; } for (;;) { if (first) COUNTER++; pthread_cond_wait(&CONDITION, &LOCK); // Always wake up the other thread before processing. The other // thread will not be able to do anything as long as I don't go // back to sleep first. pthread_cond_signal(&CONDITION); } pthread_mutex_unlock(&LOCK); return 0; } int64_t timeInMS () { struct timeval t; gettimeofday(&t, NULL); return ( (int64_t)t.tv_sec * 1000 + (int64_t)t.tv_usec / 1000 ); } int main ( int argc, char ** argv ) { int64_t start; pthread_t t1; pthread_t t2; pthread_mutex_init(&LOCK, NULL); pthread_mutex_init(&START, NULL); pthread_cond_init(&CONDITION, NULL); pthread_mutex_lock(&START); COUNTER = 0; pthread_create(&t1, NULL, threads, NULL); pthread_create(&t2, NULL, threads, NULL); pthread_detach(t1); pthread_detach(t2); // Get start time and fire away start = timeInMS(); pthread_mutex_unlock(&START); // Wait for about a second sleep(1); // Stop both threads pthread_mutex_lock(&LOCK); // Find out how much time has really passed. sleep won't guarantee me that // I sleep exactly one second, I might sleep longer since even after being // woken up, it can take some time before I gain back CPU time. Further // some more time might have passed before I obtained the lock! int64_t time = timeInMS() - start; // Correct the number of thread switches accordingly COUNTER = (uint32_t)(((uint64_t)COUNTER * 2 * 1000) / time); printf("Number of thread switches in about one second was %u\n", COUNTER); printf("roughly %f microseconds per switch\n", 1000000.0 / COUNTER); return 0; }

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• High Server Load cannot figure out why

  - by Tim Bolton

  My server is currently running CentOS 5.2, with WHM 11.34. Currently, we're at 6.43 to 12 for a load average. The sites that we're hosting are taking a lot time to respond and resolve. top doesn't show anything out of the ordinary and iftop doesn't show a lot of traffic. We have many resellers, and some not so good at writing code, how can we find the culprit? vmstat output: vmstat procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- -----cpu------ r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st 0 2 84 78684 154916 1021080 0 0 72 274 0 14 6 3 80 12 0 top output (ordered by %CPU) top - 21:44:43 up 5 days, 10:39, 3 users, load average: 3.36, 4.18, 4.73 Tasks: 222 total, 3 running, 219 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.8%us, 2.3%sy, 0.2%ni, 79.6%id, 11.8%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2074580k total, 1863044k used, 211536k free, 174828k buffers Swap: 2040212k total, 84k used, 2040128k free, 987604k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 15930 mysql 15 0 138m 46m 4380 S 4 2.3 1:45.87 mysqld 21772 igniteth 17 0 23200 7152 3932 R 4 0.3 0:00.02 php 1586 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 2 0.0 11:45.19 kjournald 21759 root 15 0 2416 1024 732 R 2 0.0 0:00.01 top 1 root 15 0 2156 648 560 S 0 0.0 0:26.31 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.35 migration/0 3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.32 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0 5 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:02.00 migration/1 6 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.11 ksoftirqd/1 7 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/1 8 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:01.29 migration/2 9 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.26 ksoftirqd/2 10 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/2 11 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.90 migration/3 12 root 34 19 0 0 0 R 0 0.0 0:00.20 ksoftirqd/3 13 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/3 top output (ordered by CPU time) top - 21:46:12 up 5 days, 10:41, 3 users, load average: 2.88, 3.82, 4.55 Tasks: 217 total, 1 running, 216 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 3.7%us, 2.0%sy, 2.0%ni, 67.2%id, 25.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2074580k total, 1959516k used, 115064k free, 183116k buffers Swap: 2040212k total, 84k used, 2040128k free, 1090308k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ TIME COMMAND 32367 root 16 0 215m 212m 1548 S 0 10.5 62:03.63 62:03 tailwatchd 1586 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 11:45.27 11:45 kjournald 1576 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 2:37.86 2:37 kjournald 27722 root 16 0 2556 1184 800 S 0 0.1 1:48.94 1:48 top 15930 mysql 15 0 138m 46m 4380 S 4 2.3 1:48.63 1:48 mysqld 2932 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 1:41.05 1:41 kipmi0 226 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 1:34.33 1:34 kswapd0 2671 named 25 0 74688 7400 2116 S 0 0.4 1:23.58 1:23 named 3229 root 15 0 10300 3348 2724 S 0 0.2 0:40.85 0:40 sshd 1580 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:30.62 0:30 kjournald 1 root 17 0 2156 648 560 S 0 0.0 0:26.32 0:26 init 2616 root 15 0 1816 576 480 S 0 0.0 0:23.50 0:23 syslogd 1584 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:18.67 0:18 kjournald 4342 root 34 19 27692 11m 2116 S 0 0.5 0:18.23 0:18 yum-updatesd 8044 bollingp 15 0 3456 2036 740 S 1 0.1 0:15.56 0:15 imapd 26 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:14.18 0:14 kblockd/1 7989 gmailsit 16 0 3196 1748 736 S 0 0.1 0:10.43 0:10 imapd iostat -xtk 1 10 output [root@server1 tmp]# iostat -xtk 1 10 Linux 2.6.18-53.el5 12/18/2012 Time: 09:51:06 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 5.83 0.19 2.53 11.85 0.00 79.60 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 1.37 118.83 18.70 54.27 131.47 692.72 22.59 4.90 67.19 3.10 22.59 sdb 0.35 39.33 20.33 61.43 158.79 403.22 13.75 5.23 63.93 3.77 30.80 Time: 09:51:07 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 1.50 0.00 0.50 24.00 0.00 74.00 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 25.00 2.00 2.00 128.00 108.00 118.00 0.03 7.25 4.00 1.60 sdb 0.00 16.00 41.00 145.00 200.00 668.00 9.33 107.92 272.72 5.38 100.10 Time: 09:51:08 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 2.00 0.00 1.50 29.50 0.00 67.00 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 95.00 3.00 33.00 12.00 480.00 27.33 0.07 1.72 1.31 4.70 sdb 0.00 14.00 1.00 228.00 4.00 960.00 8.42 143.49 568.01 4.37 100.10 Time: 09:51:09 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 13.28 0.00 2.76 21.30 0.00 62.66 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 21.00 1.00 19.00 16.00 192.00 20.80 0.06 3.55 1.30 2.60 sdb 0.00 36.00 28.00 181.00 124.00 884.00 9.65 121.16 617.31 4.79 100.10 Time: 09:51:10 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 4.74 0.00 1.50 25.19 0.00 68.58 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 20.00 3.00 15.00 12.00 136.00 16.44 0.17 7.11 3.11 5.60 sdb 0.00 0.00 103.00 60.00 544.00 248.00 9.72 52.35 545.23 6.14 100.10 Time: 09:51:11 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 1.24 0.00 1.24 25.31 0.00 72.21 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 75.00 4.00 28.00 16.00 416.00 27.00 0.08 3.72 2.03 6.50 sdb 2.00 9.00 124.00 17.00 616.00 104.00 10.21 3.73 213.73 7.10 100.10 Time: 09:51:12 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 1.00 0.00 0.75 24.31 0.00 73.93 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 24.00 1.00 9.00 4.00 132.00 27.20 0.01 1.20 1.10 1.10 sdb 4.00 40.00 103.00 48.00 528.00 212.00 9.80 105.21 104.32 6.64 100.20 Time: 09:51:13 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 2.50 0.00 1.75 23.25 0.00 72.50 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 125.74 3.96 46.53 15.84 689.11 27.92 0.20 4.06 2.41 12.18 sdb 2.97 0.00 91.09 84.16 419.80 471.29 10.17 85.85 590.78 5.66 99.11 Time: 09:51:14 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 0.75 0.00 0.50 24.94 0.00 73.82 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 88.00 1.00 7.00 4.00 380.00 96.00 0.04 4.38 3.00 2.40 sdb 3.00 7.00 111.00 44.00 540.00 208.00 9.65 18.58 581.79 6.46 100.10 Time: 09:51:15 PM avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 11.03 0.00 3.26 26.57 0.00 59.15 Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util sda 0.00 145.00 7.00 53.00 28.00 792.00 27.33 0.15 2.50 1.55 9.30 sdb 1.00 0.00 155.00 0.00 800.00 0.00 10.32 2.85 18.63 6.46 100.10 [root@server1 tmp]# MySQL Show Full Processlist mysql> show full processlist; +------+---------------+-----------+-----------------------+----------------+------+----------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Id | User | Host | db | Command | Time | State | Info | +------+---------------+-----------+-----------------------+----------------+------+----------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 1 | DB_USER_ONE | localhost | DB_ONE | Query | 3 | waiting for handler insert | INSERT DELAYED INTO defers (mailtime,msgid,email,transport_method,message,host,ip,router,deliveryuser,deliverydomain) VALUES(FROM_UNIXTIME('1355879748'),'1TivwL-0003y8-8l','[email protected]','remote_smtp','SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection: host mx1.mail.tw.yahoo.com [203.188.197.119]: 421 4.7.0 [TS01] Messages from 75.125.90.146 temporarily deferred due to user complaints - 4.16.55.1; see http://postmaster.yahoo.com/421-ts01.html','mx1.mail.tw.yahoo.com','203.188.197.119','lookuphost','','') | | 2 | DELAYED | localhost | DB_ONE | Delayed insert | 52 | insert | | | 3 | DELAYED | localhost | DB_ONE | Delayed insert | 68 | insert | | | 911 | DELAYED | localhost | DB_ONE | Delayed insert | 99 | Waiting for INSERT | | | 993 | DB_USER_TWO | localhost | DB_TWO | Sleep | 832 | | NULL | | 994 | DB_USER_ONE | localhost | DB_ONE | Query | 185 | Locked | delete from failures where FROM_UNIXTIME(UNIX_TIMESTAMP(NOW())-1296000) > mailtime | | 1102 | DB_USER_THREE | localhost | DB_THREE | Query | 29 | NULL | commit | | 1249 | DB_USER_FOUR | localhost | DB_FOUR | Query | 13 | NULL | commit | | 1263 | root | localhost | DB_FIVE | Query | 0 | NULL | show full processlist | | 1264 | DB_USER_SIX | localhost | DB_SIX | Query | 3 | NULL | commit | +------+---------------+-----------+-----------------------+----------------+------+----------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10 rows in set (0.00 sec)

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• If you leave Windows hibernated for too long it takes a long time to start and recover. Explain?

  - by becomingGuru

  Following is a conversation I had on twitter. And I have faced it; and I am sure you have faced it too. I will accept a real answer on why it is so slow when hibernated for long, unless the funny answer is really funny. How do you think they make radioactive decaying software?!

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• Why does Outlook 2010 give the message "Creating a new item from the selected items could take some time...are you sure you create a new item...?

  - by Matt

  I'm using Outlook 2010 with Exchange 2007. I am moving emails from my Deleted Items folder to a user-created folder. When I move a "low" number of messages, say a few hundred or less, the operation completes successfully. When I move a "large" number of messages (in this example it's over 800) I get the message shown in the screenshot below. If I click Yes, a new email is generated and has links to all the emails I selected in the Attachment field. When I cancel that email, not only have the messages not moved but they appear to be deleted entirely. What does the message mean and why does it get presented? Why does clicking Yes do the behavior I described above?

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• GUI freezes when executing def function. Use threads?

  - by wtzolt

  Hi, I've made a small program which has 2 buttons and each does certain thing. Here's a simplified version of the code. Thing is it works fine except that the button freezes and stays in a clicked position and whole GUI freezes until the command is completed. As far as I know threads would be best to use in this situation, but I have no idea how to implement it in this example. I use glade and pygtk for gui. def do1: t = 2 #do something time.sleep(t) #do something time.sleep(t) def do2: t = 3 #do something time.sleep(t) #do something time.sleep(t) class we: wTree = None def __init__( self ): self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML( "ui.glade" ) dic = { "on_buttonSone" : self.sone, "on_buttonStwo" : self.stwo, } self.wTree.signal_autoconnect( dic ) gtk.main() def sone(self, widget): i = 0 while i < 3: t = 1 #do something i += 1 time.sleep(t) self.wTree.get_widget("entryResult").set_text("Done.") def stwo(self, widget): start = time.clock() array = ['A','B'] adict = {'A':do1,'B':do2} for f in array: adict[f]() end = time.clock() elapsed = end - start gg = round(elapsed,2) self.wTree.get_widget("entryResult").set_text(str(gg)) go=we()

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• Why Tokyo Tyrant so slow

  - by Tantra

  I have follow situation tyrant server lunched on freebsd host, like this: ttserver -uas -log /data/tyrant/1.log -sid 1 -thnum 8 -tout 5 /data/tyrant/data/1.tct And i try to communicate this server on windows from python and pyrant-0.3.5: like this: import pyrant; import time; t = pyrant.Tyrant(host="192.168.0.220", port=1978); tbegin = time.time(); for i in xrange(4000000): if i and ((i % 10000) == 0): print time.time() - tbegin; tbegin = time.time(); t[i] = {"text": "ruslan text", "value": i}; and have i think very slow performance about 5-6 per 10,000 records. But if i start this code on the same machine like server(ttserver). Performance are good - about 0.5 sec per 10,000 records What i must do to workaround this problem?

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• Need help with cycle in JS

  - by antiarchitect

  I have such function, that adds a grid of droppables: function AddClassroomDrops(grid, weeks, days, times) { for(week = 1; week <= weeks; week++) { for (day = 1; day <= days; day++) { for (time = 1; time <= times; time++ ) { Droppables.add('container_grid'+ grid + '_week' + week + '_day' + day + '_time' + time, { accept: 'pair', hoverclass : 'hovered_receiver', onDrop: function(pair, receiver) { new Ajax.Request( '/pairs/'+pair.id+'/update_on_drop', { method : 'put', parameters : { classroom : grid, week : week, day : day, time : time, container : receiver.id } } ); } }); } } } } The problem is that params of Ajax.Request (week, day, time) are always equal to weeks + 1, times + 1, days + 1. But they must vary according to the cycle.

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• Programmatic resource monitoring per process in Linux

  - by tuxx

  Hi, I want to know if there is an efficient solution to monitor a process resource consumption (cpu, memory, network bandwidth) in Linux. I want to write a daemon in C++ that does this monitoring for some given PIDs. From what I know, the classic solution is to periodically read the information from /proc, but this doesn't seem the most efficient way (it involves many system calls). For example to monitor the memory usage every second for 50 processes, I have to open, read and close 50 files (that means 150 system calls) every second from /proc. Not to mention the parsing involved when reading these files. Another problem is the network bandwidth consumption: this cannot be easily computed for each process I want to monitor. The solution adopted by NetHogs involves a pretty high overhead in my opinion: it captures and analyzes every packet using libpcap, then for each packet the local port is determined and searched in /proc to find the corresponding process. Do you know if there are more efficient alternatives to these methods presented or any libraries that deal with this problems?

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• What's wrong with my logic here?

  - by stu

  In java they say don't concatenate Strings, instead you should make a stringbuffer and keep adding to that and then when you're all done, use toString() to get a String object out of it. Here's what I don't get. They say do this for performance reasons, because concatenating strings makes lots of temporary objects. But if the goal was performance, then you'd use a language like C/C++ or assembly. The argument for using java is that it is a lot cheaper to buy a faster processor than it is to pay a senior programmer to write fast efficient code. So on the one hand, you're supposed let the hardware take care of the inefficiencies, but on the other hand, you're supposed to use stringbuffers to make java more efficient. While I see that you can do both, use java and stringbuffers, my question is where is the flaw in the logic that you either use a faster chip or you spent extra time writing more efficient software.

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• How do I add Polylines in gmaps4rails v2

  - by LaraF

  I upgraded to the latest version of gmaps4rails (v2) and am having some issues getting polylines drawing. I can get markers working with the sample code on the wiki, but if I change the addMarkers to addPolylines, nothing renders in the map. Here's the handler code: handler = Gmaps.build('Google'); handler.buildMap({ provider: {}, internal: {id: 'map'}}, function(){ polylines = handler.addPolylines([{"lat":45.678295,"lng":-121.603813,"ele":438.626221,"time":1381851321},{"lat":45.678196,"lng":-121.603607,"ele":423.202148,"time":1381851363},{"lat":45.678181,"lng":-121.603607,"ele":421.108398,"time":1381851373},{"lat":45.678162,"lng":-121.603584,"ele":420.153442,"time":1381851383},{"lat":45.678123,"lng":-121.603569,"ele":422.561096,"time":1381851393},{"lat":45.678165,"lng":-121.6036,"ele":425.191284,"time":1381851403},{"lat":45.678169,"lng":-121.603607,"ele":425.262329,"time":1381851413}]); handler.bounds.extendWith(polylines); handler.fitMapToBounds(); }); No errors in the javascript console, just no map rendering. Any thoughts?

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• How can I access and change elements in this private readonly property?

  - by CrimsonX

  I'm trying to figure out how I am able to successfully change a "readonly" array. I have this: namespace ConsoleApplication1 { class Program { static void Main(string[] args) { MyClass myClass = new MyClass(); myClass.Time[5] = 5; // How is this legal? } } public class MyClass { private readonly uint[] time; public IList<uint> Time { get { return time; } } public MyClass() { time = new uint[7]; } } } As I Note above, I would expect that Time[5] would be illegal due to the fact that public IList Time does not have a setter. Additionally, how can I create an array in the constructor which is read-only and unchangeable outside of this class?

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• Does Microsoft hate firefox? ASP.Net gridview performance in firefox bug?

  - by Maxim Gershkovich

  Could someone please explain the significant difference in speed between a firefox updatepanel async postback and one performed in IE? Average Firefox Postback Time For 500 objects: 1.183 Second Average IE Postback Time For 500 objects: 0.295 Seconds Using firebug I can see that the majority of this time in FireFox is spent on the server side. A total of 1.04 seconds. Given this fact the only thing I can assume is causing this problem is the way that ASP.Net renders its controls between the two browsers. Has anyone run into this problem before? VB.Net Code Protected Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click GridView1.DataBind() End Sub Public Function GetStockList() As StockList Dim res As New StockList For l = 0 To 500 Dim x As New Stock With {.Description = "test", .ID = Guid.NewGuid} res.Add(x) Next Return res End Function Public Class Stock Private m_ID As Guid Private m_Description As String Public Sub New() End Sub Public Property ID() As Guid Get Return Me.m_ID End Get Set(ByVal value As Guid) Me.m_ID = value End Set End Property Public Property Description() As String Get Return Me.m_Description End Get Set(ByVal value As String) Me.m_Description = value End Set End Property End Class Public Class StockList Inherits List(Of Stock) End Class Markup <form id="form1" runat="server"> <asp:ScriptManager ID="ScriptManager1" runat="server"> </asp:ScriptManager> <script type="text/javascript" language="Javascript"> function timestamp_class(this_current_time, this_start_time, this_end_time, this_time_difference) { this.this_current_time = this_current_time; this.this_start_time = this_start_time; this.this_end_time = this_end_time; this.this_time_difference = this_time_difference; this.GetCurrentTime = GetCurrentTime; this.StartTiming = StartTiming; this.EndTiming = EndTiming; } //Get current time from date timestamp function GetCurrentTime() { var my_current_timestamp; my_current_timestamp = new Date(); //stamp current date & time return my_current_timestamp.getTime(); } //Stamp current time as start time and reset display textbox function StartTiming() { this.this_start_time = GetCurrentTime(); //stamp current time } //Stamp current time as stop time, compute elapsed time difference and display in textbox function EndTiming() { this.this_end_time = GetCurrentTime(); //stamp current time this.this_time_difference = (this.this_end_time - this.this_start_time) / 1000; //compute elapsed time return this.this_time_difference; } //--> </script> <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript"> var time_object = new timestamp_class(0, 0, 0, 0); //create new time object and initialize it Sys.WebForms.PageRequestManager.getInstance().add_beginRequest(BeginRequestHandler); Sys.WebForms.PageRequestManager.getInstance().add_endRequest(EndRequestHandler); function BeginRequestHandler(sender, args) { var elem = args.get_postBackElement(); ActivateAlertDiv('visible', 'divAsyncRequestTimer', elem.value + ''); time_object.StartTiming(); } function EndRequestHandler(sender, args) { ActivateAlertDiv('visible', 'divAsyncRequestTimer', '(' + time_object.EndTiming() + ' Seconds)'); } function ActivateAlertDiv(visstring, elem, msg) { var adiv = $get(elem); adiv.style.visibility = visstring; adiv.innerHTML = msg; } </script> <asp:UpdatePanel ID="UpdatePanel1" runat="server"> <Triggers> <asp:AsyncPostBackTrigger ControlID="Button1" EventName="click" /> </Triggers> <ContentTemplate> <asp:UpdateProgress ID="UpdateProgress1" runat="server" AssociatedUpdatePanelID="UpdatePanel1"> </asp:UpdateProgress> <asp:Button ID="Button1" runat="server" Text="Button" /> <div id="divAsyncRequestTimer" style="font-size:small;"> </div> <asp:GridView ID="GridView1" runat="server" DataSourceID="ObjectDataSource1" AutoGenerateColumns="False"> <Columns> <asp:BoundField DataField="ID" HeaderText="ID" SortExpression="ID" /> <asp:BoundField DataField="Description" HeaderText="Description" SortExpression="Description" /> </Columns> </asp:GridView> <asp:ObjectDataSource ID="ObjectDataSource1" runat="server" SelectMethod="GetStockList" TypeName="WebApplication1._Default"> </asp:ObjectDataSource> </ContentTemplate> </asp:UpdatePanel> </form>

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• NSArray vs. SQLite for Complex Queries on iPhone

  - by GingerBreadMane

  Developing for iPhone, I have a collection of points that I need to make complex queries on. For example: "How many points have a y-coordinate of 10" and "Return all points with an X-coordinate between 3 and 5 and a y-coordinate of 7". Currently, I am just cycling through each element of an NSArray and checking to see if each element matches my query. It's a pain to write the queries though. SQLite would be much nicer. I'm not sure which would be more efficient though since a SQLite database resides on disk and not in memory (to my understanding). Would SQLite be as efficient or more efficient here? Or is there a better way to do it other than these methods that I haven't thought of? I would need to perform the multiple queries with multiple sets of points thousands of times, so the best performance is important.

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• How refresh a DrawingArea in PyGTK ?

  - by Lialon

  I have an interface created with Glade. It contains a DrawingArea and buttons. I tried to create a Thread to refresh every X time my Canva. After a few seconds, I get error messages like: "X Window Server 0.0", "Fatal Error IO 11" Here is my code : import pygtk pygtk.require("2.0") import gtk import Canvas import threading as T import time import Map gtk.gdk.threads_init() class Interface(object): class ThreadCanvas(T.Thread): """Thread to display the map""" def __init__(self, interface): T.Thread.__init__(self) self.interface = interface self.started = True self.start() def run(self): while self.started: time.sleep(2) self.interface.on_canvas_expose_event() def stop(self): self.started = False def __init__(self): self.interface = gtk.Builder() self.interface.add_from_file("interface.glade") #Map self.map = Map.Map(2,2) #Canva self.canvas = Canvas.MyCanvas(self.interface.get_object("canvas"),self.game) self.interface.connect_signals(self) #Thread Canvas self.render = self.ThreadCanvas(self) def on_btnChange_clicked(self, widget): #Change map self.map.change() def on_interface_destroy(self, widget): self.render.stop() self.render.join() self.render._Thread__stop() gtk.main_quit() def on_canvas_expose_event(self): st = time.time() self.canvas.update(self.map) et = time.time() print "Canvas refresh in : %f times" %(et-st) def main(self): gtk.main() How can i fix these errors ?

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• rsync useful w/ encrypted files?

  - by barrycarter

  Is rsync efficient for transferring encrypted files? More specifically: I encrypt 'x' with my public key and call the result 'y'. I rsync 'y' to my backup server. 'x' changes slightly I encrypt the modified 'x' and rsync the modified 'y' to my backup server. Is this efficient? I know a small change in 'x' yields a large change in 'y', but is the change localized? Or has 'y' changed so thoroughly that rsync is not much better than scp? I currently backup my "critical" files by tarring/bzipping them nightly, then encrypting the .tar.bz file and rsync'ing it to my backup server. Many of the individual files don't change, but, of course, the tar file changes if even one of the files change. Is this efficient? Should I be encrypting and backing up each file individually? That way, unchanged files will take no time to rsync.

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• Is It Worth Using Bitwise Operators In Methods?

  - by user1626141

  I am very new to Java (and programming in general, my previous experience is with ActionScript 2.0 and some simple JavaScript), and I am working my way slowly and methodically through Java: A Beginner's Guide by Herbert Schildt. It is an incredible book. For one thing, I finally understand more-or-less what bitwise operators (which I first encountered in ActionScript 2.0) do, and that they are more efficient than other methods for certain sums. My question is, is it more efficient to use a method that uses, say, a shift right, to perform all your divisions/2 (or divisions/even) for you in a large program with many calculations (in this case, a sprawling RPG), or is it more efficient to simply use standard mathematical operations because the compiler will optimise it all for you? Or, am I asking the wrong question entirely?

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• Sql-server Database query help

  - by menacheb

  Hi, I have a problem that I didn't manage to solve for a very long time, and I quite desperate. I have a Database (SQL Server) with table named 'ProcessData' and columns named 'Process_Name' (Data Type: nvarchar(50)), 'Start_At' (DataType: DateTime) and 'End_At' (Data Type: DateTime). I need to know for each 'Time-Interval' (let's say 1 minute) how many processes (Process_Name = PN) was open (after or equal to the 'Start_at' column and before or equal to the 'End_At' column) during this time (It can be a few rows with the same data). Does anyone know how to make this query without a 'for' loop? (It ITSELF will promote the time), (The answer will be a table with two columns (1. The time the check took place. 2. the number of open processes at this time.) and a row for each 'Time-Interval' (1 minute in this example ) Many thanks,

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• sql select from a large number of IDs

  - by Claudiu

  I have a table, Foo. I run a query on Foo to get the ids from a subset of Foo. I then want to run a more complicated set of queries, but only on those IDs. Is there an efficient way to do this? The best I can think of is creating a query such as: SELECT ... --complicated stuff WHERE ... --more stuff AND id IN (1, 2, 3, 9, 413, 4324, ..., 939393) That is, I construct a huge "IN" clause. Is this efficient? Is there a more efficient way of doing this, or is the only way to JOIN with the inital query that gets the IDs? If it helps, I'm using SQLObject to connect to a PostgreSQL database, and I have access to the cursor that executed the query to get all the IDs.

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• A 3-D grid of regularly spaced points

  - by Jack

  I want to create a list containing the 3-D coords of a grid of regularly spaced points, each as a 3-element tuple. I'm looking for advice on the most efficient way to do this. In C++ for instance, I simply loop over three nested loops, one for each coordinate. In Matlab, I would probably use the meshgrid function (which would do it in one command). I've read about meshgrid and mgrid in Python, and I've also read that using numpy's broadcasting rules is more efficient. It seems to me that using the zip function in combination with the numpy broadcast rules might be the most efficient way, but zip doesn't seem to be overloaded in numpy.

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• "Passing Go" in a (python) date range

  - by anonymous coward

  The Rules: An employee accrues 8 hours of Paid Time Off on the day after each quarter. Quarters, specifically being: Jan 1 - Mar 31 Apr 1 - Jun 30 Jul 1 - Sep 30 Oct 1 - Dec 31 The Problem Employees will use an automated system to request paid time off, possibly occurring in the past, as well as the future. Requests should only be accepted if the employee has (or will have) that time available. For instance, if an employee only has 1 Day of Paid Time Off currently available (currently being January 20th), but is requesting 2 Days of Paid Time Off, beginning September 20th, the system should take into account that the employee would have accrued enough time off by then and allow the request. (Obviously ignoring that the employee may use up existing time before that date). I'm currently using Python, and wondering what the correct approach to something like this would be. I'm assuming that using DateTime objects, and possibly the dateutil module, would help here, but my brain isn't wrapping around this problem for some reason.

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• I'm writing a diagnostic app for iOS that loads a predetermined set of webpages and records the time it takes for the page to render on the device.

  - by user1754840

  I'm writing a sort of diagnostic app for iOS that opens a predetermined list of websites and records the elapsed time it takes each to load. I have the app open a UIWebView within a ViewController. Here are the important bits of the ViewController source: - (void)viewDidLoad { [super viewDidLoad]; DataClass *obj = [DataClass getInstance]; obj.startOfTest = [NSDate date]; //load the first webpage NSString *urlString = [websites objectAtIndex:obj.counter]; //assume firstWebsite is already instantiated and counter is initially set to zero obj.counter = obj.counter + 1; NSURL *url = [NSURL URLWithString:urlString]; NSURLRequest *request = [NSURLRequest requestWithURL:url]; [obj.websiteStartTimes addObject:[NSDate date]]; [webView loadRequest:request]; } - (void)webViewDidFinishLoading:(UIWebView *)localWebView{ DataClass *obj = [DataClass getInstance]; //gets 'global' variables if(!webView.loading){ NSString *urlString = [websites objectAt:obj.counter]; obj.counter = obj.counter + 1; NSURL *url = [NSURL URLWithString:urlString]; NSURLRequest *request = [NSURLRequest requestWithURL:url]; [obj.websiteStartTimes addObject:[NSDate date]]; [webView loadRequest:request]; } The problem with this code is that it seems to load the next website before the one before it has finished. I would have thought that both the call to webViewDidFinishLoading AND the if statement within that would ensure that the website would be done, but that's not the case. I've noticed that sometimes, a single website will invoke the didFinishLoading method more than once, but it would only enter the if statement once. For example, if I have a list of ten websites, the webView would only really show the 3rd and the 6th website on the list and then indicate that it was "done" rendering them all. What else can I do to ensure that a website is done loading completely and rendered to the screen before the app moves on to the next one?

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• Windows CE Chat Transcript (March 30, 2010)

  - by Bruce Eitman

  For those of you who missed the chat today, here is the raw transcript.   By raw, I mean that I copied and pasted the discussion without any edits. This is divided into two parts, the top part is the answers from the Microsoft Experts and the bottom part is the questions from the audience. Answers from Microsoft:   Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:2]: Hi everyone, my name is Karel Danihelka and I am developer in partner response team. Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:2]: Hi, I'm Sing Wee, part of the CoreOS/BSP Test Team. GLanger_MS (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:2]: Hi, I'm Glen Langer, program manager on the Core Team. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:3]: Q: I need to implement hardware timers on my windows CE 6.0 device to trigger events at microsecond intervals. Where should i start? A: Until you are using CPU with GHz frequency your only chance is use interrupt handler and implement all funcionality there. But it will be really tricky and may reduce system performance. If period will be near to millisecond timeframe you can use normal thread wait for event pattern. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:5]: Q: I want to partition my NAND Flash device. One partition to use for hive ragistry and the other for the apps and data. The only way to do it is programmatically or setting some registry values ? A: It need to be set in registry - generally you need mark this partition as boot partition. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:7]: Q: My CPU is Intel celeron M processor 1Ghz. A: In this case you can try use normal approach - in interrupt handler return SYSINTR and start thread in device driver which will spin thread waiting on event attached to this SYSINTR. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:7]: Q: If i need to implement it using interrupt handlers, What are all the files that I should look at? A: Good quesiton - I would recommend documentation and there was BSP development book to download for free. mikehall_ms (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:8]: Q: Hi guys, what's the formal way to report bugs back to the core team / product team? The mechanism of calling the support phone number every time is really onerous and time-consuming. Is there another mechanism? A: Using product support is the formal way to report bugs/issues - Product support can then create an issue that can be tracked. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:9]: Q: But the operation for creating the partitions ? A: This is tricky - if you will make it autopartition & autoformat it will be created by filesystem. But generally it depends on your boot loader. mikehall_ms (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:10]: Q: Is Windows Phone 7 related to Windows CE? If so, can you tell me what version of Windows CE is the basis? Is it in fact the new version of Windows Mobile? A: At MIX 2010 Charlie Kindel presented a session that described some of the core technologies that make up Windows Phone 7 Series, including the underlying operating system (Windows CE) and the new ISV programming model based on Silverlight and .NET - check out the Mix Online Videos to get more information. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:10]: Q: Is Windows Phone 7 related to Windows CE? If so, can you tell me what version of Windows CE is the basis? Is it in fact the new version of Windows Mobile? A: This forum is to discussed released products in the industry. Windows Mobile & Windows CE are based on the same Windows CE Kernel/system. Windows CE is focused on deliverying the OS for embedded customers in the market where Windows Mobile is focused on deliverying compelling Windows Phone platform. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:11]: Q: Is Windows Phone 7 related to Windows CE? If so, can you tell me what version of Windows CE is the basis? Is it in fact the new version of Windows Mobile? A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE Wikipedia gives a good breakdown of the version history. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:13]: Q: I created a OS design with KITL and kernel debugger enabled. But I am unable to connect to the target for debugging. I am getting the following error when i try to connect with the device. PB Debugger Cannot initialize the Kernel Debugger. PB Debugger Debugger could not initialize connection. PB Debugger The Kernel Debugger is waiting to connect with target. PB Debugger The Kernel Debugger has been disconnected successfully. A: One possibility is that a rogue cesvchost.exe has co-opted the debugger. I am assuming this is CE 6.0? Can you try exiting visual studio and manually killing the cesvchost.exe process from the Task Manager? davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:14]: Q: Hi guys, what's the formal way to report bugs back to the core team / product team? The mechanism of calling the support phone number every time is really onerous and time-consuming. Is there another mechanism? A: For info on contacting Microsoft support refer to the support page on the Embedded website: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsembedded/dd897633.aspx Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:16]: Q: Do u mean ISR/IST implementation? How can i register an interrupt? What kind of interrupt should i register? A: A good introduction to interrupts in WinCE 6.0 can be found here (aside from the documentation on MSDN): http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/f/9cffaa58-4000-48d6-a4b2-5fed9e4e6410/Chapter%206%20-%20Developing%20Device%20Drivers.pdf mikehall_ms (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:16]: Q: What will be different in Windows Compact 7 from CE 6.0? A: Unfortunately we cannot discuss unreleased products on this chat - keep an eye on the Windows Embedded web site and blogs to keep up to date with product announcements. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:16]: Q: I am using CE 6.0. There is no cesvchost process running in my system. A: What operating system are you using? Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:16]: Q: So...I have to modify file system code to create 2 partition at system startup ?!! I haven't understood.... A: You don't need to modify code, there are registry settings to achive this (look to documentation). But you may need to create partition table in boot loader. Unfortunatelly there isn't simple way how to do it. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:18]: Q: I would like to get a handle to a Silverlight screen section, is that possiable? A: Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 includes Sliverlight for Windows Embedded. Refer to New Features overview on the embedded web site. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/windowsce/default.mspx. Silverlight - The power of Silverlight brought to Windows Embedded CE to create rich applications and user interfaces is new part of Windows CE Embedded. mikehall_ms (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:20]: Q: The link for developing device drivers is not working. can u please check that? A: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms923714.aspx davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:20]: Q: I would like to get a handle to a Silverlight screen section, is that possiable? A: Sorry misunderstood the question I thought you were asking if embedded CE could handle Silverlight. Please repost so that the question goes back into the active queue because once answered no way to put the status back to open. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:21]: Q: sorry! Windows XP SP3 A: Can you try exiting VS2005 and confirming cesvchost.exe is not running, then renaming C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\CoreCon\1.0 to 1.0_backup, then restarting VS2005? Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:24]: Q: Can I have the book's name please? A: I believe the downloadable version is related to the last link I sent. If you go to the following website, I believe you can download the whole thing: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsembedded/ce/cc294468.aspx davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:24]: Q: If one has an image on a Silverlight page, it seems to be cached. How would one refresh that cache after changing the underlying image? A: change the URI of the image or use a writeable bitmap if they want to manually toggle the pixels Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:25]: A: Whoops, hit [ENTER] too early. On the right side, you'll see there an "Exam Preparation Kit" link that can be downloaded in several different languages. Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:25]: Q: Can I have the book's name please? A: Whoops, hit [ENTER] too early. On the right side, you'll see there an "Exam Preparation Kit" link that can be downloaded in several different languages. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:26]: Q: I have a NAND Flash on my target device. On this flash I have the hive registry and an application.I have observed that when the NAND flash is fully, the system startup time is longer....is there a degradation of NAND use that influences the startup time ? Why ? A: Yes - on boot flash abstraction library (old one) read metadata from all sectors to rebuild physical - logical mapping table. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:27]: Q: I would like to get a handle to a Silverlight screen section, is that possiable? A: Need addition info on this question. Can you provide more details on what you are trying to do in Silverlight? davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:27]: Q: If one has an image on a Silverlight page, it seems to be cached. How would one refresh that cache after changing the underlying image? A: Additonal Info: if you want to manually touch the pixels use WriteableBitmap if you want to use the underlying HWND then use IXRVisualHost::GetHWND() davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:28]: Q: Writable bitmap, is there an example of the syntax? A: if you want to manually touch the pixels use WriteableBitmap if you want to use the underlying HWND then use IXRVisualHost::GetHWND() davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:29]: Q: I would like to get a handle to a Silverlight screen section, is that possiable? A: Can I get more information about this question about what you are trying to accomplish in Silverlight? davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:31]: Q: IXRVisualHost::GetHWND() exactly what I needed Thanks, A: Your welcome Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:31]: Q: ok. thanks for the book's link A: No problem. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:32]: Q: Typically for SoC devices you name your hardware specific libraries in the form "SOCDIRNAME_LIBNAME". In our platform "OMAP35XX_TPS659XX_TI_V1" if you do this we cause the catalog parser to die... For example if we have a library "Musbfn_OMAP35XX_TPS659XX_TI_V1.dll" entering this in the catalogs pbcxml file in a <module> section causes the XML parser to fail with : Error 3 The 'urn:Microsoft.PlatformBuilder/Catalog:Module' element is        invalid - The value '012345678901234567890123456789.dll' is invalid         according to its datatype         'urn:Microsoft.PlatformBuilder/Catalog:CatalogFileName' - The actual         length is greater than the MaxLength value. A: There are a couple workarounds I can think of. I believe the Module element is only used when doing SYSGEN parsing to make sure dependent SYSGENs are present when the item is selected, so I believe it is optional to the catalog. The other obvious workaround is to shorten the soc name. I realize neither of these solutions is ideal. This is not something we anticipated when we tested CE6.0, sorry. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:33]: Q: I am getting this error only when I select the KdStub as the debugger in Target device connectivity. A: Right, but KdStub is the debugger that you should use. Have you tried the steps I suggested? Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:36]: Q: If I select Active KTIL, My OS doesn't boots. It says "loading NK.EXE at 0x<xxxxx> location" after that nothing comes in the debug log. A: Can you look at the serial debug output and see what is happening there? Often it can give you a clue to the KITL driver malfunctioning. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:38]: Q: I have tried that and I am getting the same error. A: I am assuming you have a device created in Target -> Connectivity Options in Platform Builder. What are the Kernel download / Kernel transport for your device? Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:40]: Q: KITL: *** Device Name CEPC56059 *** WARN: KITL will run in polling mode VBridge:: built on [Jul 10 2009] time [10:20:14] VBridgeInit()...TX = [16384] bytes -- Rx = [16384] bytes Tx buffer [0xA1B84860] to [0xA1B88860]. Rx buffer [0xA1B88880] to [0xA1B8C880]. VBridge:: NK add MAC: [0-60-65-2-DA-FB] Connecting to Desktop KITL: Connected host IP: 1 Port: 1086 .. this is the output of the serial debug A: This looks reasonable and does not give clues as to why boot would halt at that point. If you capture a network trace or turn on KITL debug zones via dpCurSettings in kitl.dll, do you see KITL active after this? Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:41]: Q: Both is happening via Ethernet. A: Only thing I have left to suggest is a Platform Builder installation Repair, then. Karel Danihelka [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:42]: Q: Hi, I saw that the ATADISK is quite generic and des not have any optimizations. Do you have any advice to consider while tryin to improve the performance of it? A: If I remember correctly sample code has support for some specific hardware controllers (little obsolete now). This should be good start point (if you will not decide take existing driver as sample and write you own). Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:44]: Q: I didn't do that. I have to try. A: I think that's the next valid step. You need to figure out whether KITL is hanging or the device - use instrumented serial debug messages and network trace to determine this. Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:46]: Q: KITL: *** Device Name CEPC56059 *** WARN: KITL will run in polling mode VBridge:: built on [Jul 10 2009] time [10:20:14] VBridgeInit()...TX = [16384] bytes -- Rx = [16384] bytes Tx buffer [0xA1B84860] to [0xA1B88860]. Rx buffer [0xA1B88880] to [0xA1B8C880]. VBridge:: NK add MAC: [0-60-65-2-DA-FB] Connecting to Desktop KITL: Connected host IP: 1 Port: 1086 .. this is the output of the serial debug A: Neo, have you by any chance tried looking into your firewall to see if it might be blocking traffic on any particular ports? Wireshark/netmon might be able to help you here if that's the issue. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:48]: Q: I lost spell check, how can i get it back A: Hello - can you give additional details about your question? Is this related to a Windows CE Embedded application? masatos_MSFT (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:51]: Q: When attempting to run the CETK cellcore tests the documentation states the pre-requisites include "stinger.ini", "ltk.ini" but windows CE doesn't provide these or document what they fully need to contain. Implicitly you also need "datatrans.xml" which isn't supplied. If you get around this error and steal these from Windows Mobile instead, when you try and run the CETK tests you get a data abort in radiometricsdll.dll. How should we invoke the cellcore parts of CETK? A: Hi Pev, what version of Windows CE and CETK are you using? I do not have the expertise to answer this question, but can find somebody who can. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:52]: Q: I don't see a kitlcore.dll in my OS. is my debug image fails to load because of that? A: kitl.dll should be all that's needed, kitlcore.lib is linked into that. Travis Hobrla [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:55]: Q: I've got a platform (not developed by myself) where I2C bus support has to be provided through the OAL as the kernel needs to talk to devices such as the power management IC and gas gauge so a 'proper' I2C driver hanging off device manager isn't possible. This happens to be a polled driver, so obviously it hits the system hard when either under lots of traffic or an error condition occurs and the driver constantly polls. I originally thought that there was no straightforward way to make such code interrupt driven in the kernel (as it's a cludge) but I realised that that's exactly what ETHDBG drivers do. Is there any reason why I shouldn't have a go at implementing a similar mechanism for our kernel resident I2C driver? If not, are there any obvious pitfalls - I've not seen any other BSP's do this in the past... A: You can make a 'proper' driver that calls down into the OAL to do the actual I2C transactions. Alternatively you can build an interrupt-based version in the OAL where you handle everything in the ISR. There is nothing wrong with that so long as the rest of your drivers and app threads can handle longer times with interrupts off while you are servicing I2C interrupts. Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:55]: Q: I am having trouble with my mouse, I have the microsoft wireless mobile mouse 3000, when I push the scroll button I am suppose to have autoscroll instead it shows other web pages,Can you help me out tell me what to do!!! A: Sorry, this current chat is about Windows Embedded Compact. Hope you're able to find an answer to your question elsewhere. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:56]: Q: Is the Silverlight Animation "Spline" a BezierSpline? A: Spline - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee501495.aspx<BR< a>>   masatos_MSFT (Expert)[2010-3-30 12:57]: Thanks for the info Pev. I will follow up with the CETK experts here and get back to you. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:59]: Q: Spline- bad link A: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee501495.aspx davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 13:0]: Q: Sorry, got to tirm the ">" A: No Worries http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee501495.aspx davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 13:0]: Hello everyone, we are just about out of time. Thank you for joining us for our Windows Embedded CE 6.0 chat today! <http://www.Microsoft.com/Embedded>; A special thank you to the product group members for coming out. The transcript of today’s chat will be posted online as soon as possible, to <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/chats>;. We’ll see you again for another chat next month. Please check <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/chats>; for the list of upcoming chats. If you still have unanswered questions, let me suggest that you post them on one of our newsgroups on <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsembedded/ce/default.aspx> -Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 Now Available! <http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/ce/dd630616.aspx>; davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 13:1]: Q: hi everybody. I would like to know if there is something know about a bug in RTC API (VOIP), especially when using SIP. According the to the analysis with application verifyier there is a heap link in rtcdllmedia.dll. All of the unreleased chunks seem to have a size of 6560 bytes. A: I will follow up with the Networking Team for a response. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 13:1]: Q: Hi, we've problems with debugging of applications (= breakpoints in Platform Builder will be ignored) over KITL on Windows CE 5.0, if the PDB files are large (over 60MB). Are there any limitations to size of the PDB files? A: I will follow up with the tools team for a response and post with the transcript. Sing Wee [MS] (Expert)[2010-3-30 13:1]: Q: I am unable to use the target control in my development environment. any ideas? A: Make sure you have SYSGEN_SHELL=1 set in your build environment. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 13:3]: Q: what are the main differences between Object Store and RAM disk ? They are both in RAM...are there performance differences ? access differences ? A: I will follow up with the Core Team and get a response posted with the transcript to MSDN  The Questions   [2010-3-30 12:57]: Thanks for the info Pev. I will follow up with the CETK experts here and get back to you. [2010-3-30 12:59]:   [2010-3-30 13:0]:   [2010-3-30 13:0]: Hello everyone, we are just about out of time. Thank you for joining us for our Windows Embedded CE 6.0 chat today! <http://www.Microsoft.com/Embedded>; A special thank you to the product group members for coming out. The transcript of today’s chat will be posted online as soon as possible, to <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/chats>;. We’ll see you again for another chat next month. Please check <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/chats>; for the list of upcoming chats. If you still have unanswered questions, let me suggest that you post them on one of our newsgroups on <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsembedded/ce/default.aspx> -Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 Now Available! <http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/ce/dd630616.aspx>; [2010-3-30 13:1]: [2010-3-30 13:1]: [2010-3-30 13:1]: [2010-3-30 13:3]: neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:37]: Hi all KellyG (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:37]: Hi KellyG (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:37]: I have a question unrelated to windows Ce embedded, can you please help me?? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:38]: I need to implement hardware timers on my windows CE 6.0 device to trigger events at microsecond intervals! c neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:38]: yes. post it. May be i cud give a try KellyG (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:38]: My Product key listed on my tower is not the product key I need for microsoft office, but that is the only product key listed. neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:39]: I hope this is a chat for windows embedded. please post ur queries in office forums KellyG (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:39]: it is but i could not find a forum for office neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:40]: I think moderators will help u out. @ davbo-msft: can u help this guy? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:41]: Q: I need to implement hardware timers on my windows CE 6.0 device to trigger events at microsecond intervals. Where should i start? davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 11:50]: Our chat today covers the topic of Windows Embedded CE! 1. This chat will last for one hour. During this hour, our Experts will respond to as many questions as they can. Please understand that there may be some questions we cannot respond to due to lack of information or because the information is not yet public. 2. We encourage you to submit questions for our Experts. To do so, type your questions in the send box, select the “ask the Experts” box and click SEND. Questions sent directly to the Guest Chat room will not be answered by the Experts, but we encourage other community members to assist. 3. We ask that you stay on topic for the duration of the chat. This helps the Guests and Experts follow the conversation more easily. We invite you to ask off topic questions after this chat is over, but not during. 4. Please abide by the Chat Code of Conduct. Chat code of conduct: <http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/chatroom.aspx?ctl=hlp#Conduct>; Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:54]: Evening! davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 11:54]: Hello everyone this is Dave Boyce - I worked in the Multimedia area for Windows CE. neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:55]: hello dave neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:55]: The chat code of conduct link is not working! Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:56]: Best be polite just in case then ;-) neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 11:56]: davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 11:57]: I'll check out the issue w/ the link paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:0]: Hello davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 12:0]: We are pleased to welcome our Experts for today’s chat. I will have them introduce themselves now. Chat will begin in a couple of minutes. <http://www.Microsoft.com/Embedded>; paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:3]: Hello Experts ! neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:3]: Welcome all! paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:3]: Q: I want to partition my NAND Flash device. One partition to use for hive ragistry and the other for the apps and data. The only way to do it is programmatically or setting some registry values ? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:3]: Q: I need to implement hardware timers on my windows CE 6.0 device to trigger events at microsecond intervals. Where should i start? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:5]: Q: My CPU is Intel celeron M processor 1Ghz. Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:5]: neo: if your silicon has multiple general purpose timers, pick one that's not in use for the system timer / profiler and set it up to trigger irqs for your purpose. You can't guarantee hard realtime type responses though... GarySwalling (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:5]: Q: Is Windows Phone 7 related to Windows CE? If so, can you tell me what version of Windows CE is the basis? Is it in fact the new version of Windows Mobile? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:6]: Q: Hi guys, what's the formal way to report bugs back to the core team / product team? The mechanism of calling the support phone number every time is really onerous and time-consuming. Is there another mechanism? paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:6]: Q: But the operation for creating the partitions ? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:6]: Q: If i need to implement it using interrupt handlers, What are all the files that I should look at? GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:6]: Q: I would like to get a handle to a Silverlight screen section, is that possiable? Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:7]: Q: I created a OS design with KITL and kernel debugger enabled. But I am unable to connect to the target for debugging. I am getting the following error when i try to connect with the device. PB Debugger Cannot initialize the Kernel Debugger. PB Debugger Debugger could not initialize connection. PB Debugger The Kernel Debugger is waiting to connect with target. PB Debugger The Kernel Debugger has been disconnected successfully. Charles (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:7]: What will be different in Windows Compact 7 from CE 6.0? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:8]: Can I have the book's name please? kiefs_dev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:8]: Q: hi everybody. I would like to know if there is something know about a bug in RTC API (VOIP), especially when using SIP. According the to the analysis with application verifyier there is a heap link in rtcdllmedia.dll. All of the unreleased chunks seem to have a size of 6560 bytes. paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:10]: Q: So...I have to modify file system code to create 2 partition at system startup ?!! I haven't understood.... neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:10]: Q: Do u mean ISR/IST implementation? How can i register an interrupt? What kind of interrupt should i register? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:11]: Q: Can I have the book's name please? Charles (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:11]: Q: What will be different in Windows Compact 7 from CE 6.0? PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:11]: neo: I'd say that you really need the docs for YOUR BSP, not generic documents for BSPs in general. Each BSP may be architected differently. If you're using the CEPC BSP, then the documentation that comes with Platform Builder is a reasonable place to look. GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:11]: Q: If one has an image on a Silverlight page, it seems to be cached. How would one refresh that cache after changing the underlying image? Elektrobit (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:12]: Q: Hi, we've problems with debugging of applications (= breakpoints in Platform Builder will be ignored) over KITL on Windows CE 5.0, if the PDB files are large (over 60MB). Are there any limitations to size of the PDB files? Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:15]: Q: I am using CE 6.0. There is no cesvchost process running in my system. alexquisi (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:15]: Q: Hi, I saw that the ATADISK is quite generic and des not have any optimizations. Do you have any advice to consider while tryin to improve the performance of it? Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:17]: Windows XP service pack 1 Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:17]: Q: sorry! Windows XP SP3 neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:19]: Q: The link for developing device drivers is not working. can u please check that? paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:20]: Q: I have a NAND Flash on my target device. On this flash I have the hive registry and an application.I have observed that when the NAND flash is fully, the system startup time is longer....is there a degradation of NAND use that influences the startup time ? Why ? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:20]: Q: When attempting to run the CETK cellcore tests the documentation states the pre-requisites include "stinger.ini", "ltk.ini" but windows CE doesn't provide these or document what they fully need to contain. Implicitly you also need "datatrans.xml" which isn't supplied. If you get around this error and steal these from Windows Mobile instead, when you try and run the CETK tests you get a data abort in radiometricsdll.dll. How should we invoke the cellcore parts of CETK? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:21]: Hi all, Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:21]: oops Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:21]: :-D Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:24]: Typically for SoC devices you name your hardware specific libraries in the form "SOCDIRNAME_LIBNAME". In our platform "OMAP35XX_TPS659XX_TI_V1" if you do this we cause the catalog parser to die... For example if we have a library "Musbfn_OMAP35XX_TPS659XX_TI_V1.dll" entering this in the catalogs pbcxml file in a <module> section causes the XML parser to fail with : Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:25]: Q: Error 3 The 'urn:Microsoft.PlatformBuilder/Catalog:Module' element is        invalid - The value '012345678901234567890123456789.dll' is invalid         according to its datatype         'urn:Microsoft.PlatformBuilder/Catalog:CatalogFileName' - The actual         length is greater than the MaxLength value. GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:25]: Q: Writable bitmap, is there an example of the syntax? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:25]: Q: Typically for SoC devices you name your hardware specific libraries in the form "SOCDIRNAME_LIBNAME". In our platform "OMAP35XX_TPS659XX_TI_V1" if you do this we cause the catalog parser to die... For example if we have a library "Musbfn_OMAP35XX_TPS659XX_TI_V1.dll" entering this in the catalogs pbcxml file in a <module> section causes the XML parser to fail with : Error 3 The 'urn:Microsoft.PlatformBuilder/Catalog:Module' element is        invalid - The value '012345678901234567890123456789.dll' is invalid         according to its datatype         'urn:Microsoft.PlatformBuilder/Catalog:CatalogFileName' - The actual         length is greater than the MaxLength value. Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:25]: sorry, messed up submission there! GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:26]: Q: I would like to get a handle to a Silverlight screen section, is that possiable? GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:28]: Q: IXRVisualHost::GetHWND() exactly what I needed Thanks, PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:29]: GPM: You don't have to keep submitting the questions. The chat experts have an application that they're using to follow the chat and all Ask the Experts questions are logged. Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:29]: Q: I am getting this error only when I select the KdStub as the debugger in Target device connectivity. neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:30]: Q: ok. thanks for the book's link Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:31]: Hm, did those two I submitted get picked up by anyone? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:33]: Q: If I select Active KTIL, My OS doesn't boots. It says "loading NK.EXE at 0x<xxxxx> location" after that nothing comes in the debug log. PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:34]: Pev: PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:35]: Pev: I'm sure they did. The guys who are actually on the chat may not be experts in that part of things. That's usually the explanation when you don't get an answer in 10 minutes or so. Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:36]: Ah, fair enough Susie (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:36]: My Outlook Express incoming mail is corrput. No ONE has been able to fix the problem, Dell or Norton. I have dial up I'm in a rural area Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:37]: Q: I have tried that and I am getting the same error. Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:37]: Susie : Use Thunderbird instead :-D PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:37]: Susie: Sorry, but this chat is not about Windows, but Embedded (like what runs on a phone). Your best chance is to find a local expert or talk to your ISP. paolopat (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:37]: Q: what are the main differences between Object Store and RAM disk ? They are both in RAM...are there performance differences ? access differences ? Susie (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:38]: My computer knowlege is very limited, what is Thunderbird? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:38]: A different email client :-D neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:39]: Q: KITL: *** Device Name CEPC56059 *** WARN: KITL will run in polling mode VBridge:: built on [Jul 10 2009] time [10:20:14] VBridgeInit()...TX = [16384] bytes -- Rx = [16384] bytes Tx buffer [0xA1B84860] to [0xA1B88860]. Rx buffer [0xA1B88880] to [0xA1B8C880]. VBridge:: NK add MAC: [0-60-65-2-DA-FB] Connecting to Desktop KITL: Connected host IP: 1 Port: 1086 .. this is the output of the serial debug Susie (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:39]: Do I need to uninstall Outlook Express youngboyzie (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:39]: I need to start battery calibration for my new battery for my dell inspiron 1525 laptop and should be able to reach the BIOS screen by hitting f2 but this isnt working... help? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:39]: Nah, you can run it instead - you'll still need help from your ISP to configure it I expect Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:39]: Q: Both is happening via Ethernet. PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:40]: youngboyzie: You're off-topic. This is not a general chat for Windows and certainly not for Dell. You'll have to ask Dell how to get to setup; it's their machine. bill (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:41]: I lost spell check, how can i get et back neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:42]: Q: I didn't do that. I have to try. Jhony (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:43]: Q: Ok. I will do it then. bill (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:43]: Q: I lost spell check, how can i get it back PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:44]: bill: This isn't a general Windows chat. There are some Web forums that you might try. GarySwalling (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:45]: Q: Thanks, I found the Phone 7 presentation at http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/CL13 GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:45]: Q: Is the Silverlight Animation "Spline" a BezierSpline? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:46]: Q: ok. I'll do it. thanks Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:46]: Whowever was asking about KITL connection : I've had this loads in the past. I think I started debugging last time by using wireshark to see what was happening on the network then setting up the OAL_ETHER and OAL_FUNC and OAL_VERBOSE as well as OAL_KITL flags to see what was actually happening in the driver.... Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:47]: I'd generally make sure that you're testing though a 10baseT hub (instead of anything faster) and forcing Active KITL in polled mode too... neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:48]: Q: I disabled the firewall in my PC. Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:50]: Q: I've got a platform (not developed by myself) where I2C bus support has to be provided through the OAL as the kernel needs to talk to devices such as the power management IC and gas gauge so a 'proper' I2C driver hanging off device manager isn't possible. This happens to be a polled driver, so obviously it hits the system hard when either under lots of traffic or an error condition occurs and the driver constantly polls. I originally thought that there was no straightforward way to make such code interrupt driven in the kernel (as it's a cludge) but I realised that that's exactly what ETHDBG drivers do. Is there any reason why I shouldn't have a go at implementing a similar mechanism for our kernel resident I2C driver? If not, are there any obvious pitfalls - I've not seen any other BSP's do this in the past... neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:51]: Q: I don't see a kitlcore.dll in my OS. is my debug image fails to load because of that? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:52]: Q: Hi masatos, I'm using Windows Embedded CE 6.0 with R3 and patched to feb 2010's QFE's (with it's associated CETK version) this is a machine with only CE 6.0 on (no conflicts with earlier CE or WM...) neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:54]: ok. Got it neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:54]: Q: ok. Got it Roundman (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:55]: Q: I am having trouble with my mouse, I have the microsoft wireless mobile mouse 3000, when I push the scroll button I am suppose to have autoscroll instead it shows other web pages,Can you help me out tell me what to do!!! Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:55]: Hey neo, debugging kitl issues is really frustrating but dont lose heart :-) neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:55]: @ pev : u fixed the problem of KITL after that? neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:56]: I am getting the same error again and again. I even cleaned my environment and tried in a fresh PC. But didn't succeed yet Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:56]: Well, eventually - my experiences probably won't help you as different platforms have different reasons for doing that neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:56]: I think so PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:58]: neo: Have you searched the old messages in microsoft.public.windowsce.platbuilder? It seems to me that there was a packet size situation where it was possible to have problems with KITL connections based on a setting on the PC. Google Groups, groups.google.com, Advanced Groups Search will allow you to search a single newsgroup or a set of newsgroups easily. GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:58]: Q: Spline- bad link PaulT (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:58]: GPM: without the > at the end does it work? It seems to for me... neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:58]: But some times if i try to connect to the device again. The Image information is seen in the serial debug. what does that mean?Download BIN file information: ----------------------------------------------------- [0]: Base Address=0x220000 Length=0x18DAADC Received a broadcast message !CheckUDP: Not UDP (proto = 0x00000001) after this i am getting the old errors. PB debugger cannot initialize ... GPM (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:59]: Q: Sorry, got to tirm the ">" neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 12:59]: ok paul. I ll look into that. davbo-msft (Moderator)[2010-3-30 13:0]: Hello everyone, we are just about out of time. Thank you for joining us for our Windows Embedded CE 6.0 chat today! <http://www.Microsoft.com/Embedded>; A special thank you to the product group members for coming out. The transcript of today’s chat will be posted online as soon as possible, to <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/chats>;. We’ll see you again for another chat next month. Please check <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/chats>; for the list of upcoming chats. If you still have unanswered questions, let me suggest that you post them on one of our newsgroups on <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsembedded/ce/default.aspx> -Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 Now Available! <http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/ce/dd630616.aspx>; neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 13:1]: Q: I am unable to use the target control in my development environment. any ideas? Pev (Guest)[2010-3-30 13:1]: Sure, if KITL isn't connected target control won't work as it runs over kitl... neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 13:1]: ok .thanks pev neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 13:2]: yes. sysgen_shell is set to 1 neo (Guest)[2010-3-30 13:2]: Q: yes. sysgen_shell is set to 1 Marcelovk (Guest)[2010-3-30 13:2]: Q: Is there any way to extract the default command lines of the tests in CETK? I want to have it running unconnected from the desktop.   Copyright © 2010 – Bruce Eitman All Rights Reserved

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