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  • Ajax request with prototype - what is transport if not only responseText?

    - by Delirium tremens
    This is an example code from the prototype site. var url = '/proxy?url=' + encodeURIComponent('http://www.google.com/search?q=Prototype'); // notice the use of a proxy to circumvent the Same Origin Policy. new Ajax.Request(url, { method: 'get', onSuccess: function(transport) { var notice = $('notice'); if (transport.responseText.match(/href="http:\/\/prototypejs.org/)) notice.update('Yeah! You are in the Top 10!').setStyle({ background: '#dfd' }); else notice.update('Damn! You are beyond #10...').setStyle({ background: '#fdd' }); } }); The data that comes from the ajax request is available at transport.responseText, but what is transport if not only responseText?

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  • margin-bottom property of a div's last element doesn't "extend" the div

    - by kitsched
    I have an element in a div, which has a background image. Below the div I have another div with another background image. Now the problem is that if the last element contained in the first div has margin-bottom applied there will be a gap between the 2 divs like this: Notice the gray gap caused by the margin-bottom property of the h2 element contained within the first div. I know this can be solved if I switch margin-bottom to padding-bottom but what if I need margin-bottom? How to fix this?

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  • IE problem with javascript

    - by Syom
    i have the following simple script <input class="input" type="text" name="password" style="color: #797272;" value= "<?php if ($_POST[password] != '') {echo '';} else {echo '????????';}?>" onclick="if (this.value === this.defaultValue) { this.value=''; this.style.color='black'; this.type='password'; }" /> it works fine, but in IE7 it doesn't change the input type. this.type='password'; doesn't work could you help me? thanks

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  • centering ul so that columns will be centered too

    - by user1815176
    In my page I want it so that when you resize the page past the point of the pictures, that the pictures will go into another row, all the way so each picture has it's own row. And then potentially I won't need any media queries. But unfortunaltely I can't find a way to center. I have tried everything I can think of, aside of making hundreds of media queries with different positioning. I can't make it a block because then it won't go into rows, I have tried margin: 0 auto;. I have tried changing the padding, I have even tried using the html align="center". Nothing is working. Here is the website http://spencedesign.netau.net/singaporehome.html Also I have a minor issue, sorry to croud this with two questions. But when it is in it's mobile state, there is no 10px padding at the bottom, and the singapore title is on the left side rather than floating. Here is my code <html> <head> <title> Singapore - Home </title> <link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" /> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial scale=1.0"> <style> * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } body { background: url('woodbackground.jpg'); background-size: cover; min-height: 100%; min-width: 100%; position: relative; top: 0; bottom: 0; left: 0; right: 0; } #container { width: 90%; margin: 0 auto; } h1 { font: bold 65px Helvetica, Arial, Sans-serif; text-align: center; color: #eee; position: relative; top: 60px; } h3 { font: 25px Helvetica, Arial, Sans-serif; text-align: center; color: #eee; position: relative; top: 80px; } ul#gallery { list-style: none; display: inline; margin: 0 auto; position: relative; top: 175px; width: 1300px; } ul#gallery li a { float: left; padding: 10px 10px 25px 10px; background-color: #eee; border: 1px solid #fff; -moz-box-shadow: 0px 2px 15px #333; position: relative; margin: 10px; text-decoration: none; } ul#gallery li a:hover { position: relative; top: -15px; } ul#gallery li a img { height: 150px; width: 250px; max-width: 100%; } ul#gallery li a p { margin-top: 25px; text-align: center; color: #000; font: Helvetica, Arial, Sans-serif; text-decoration: none; font-size: 20px; } @media screen and (max-width: 640px)    { ul#gallery {   left: 2.2%;   width: 600px; }   ul#gallery li a:hover {   top: 0px; } } </style> <body> <div id="container"> <h1> Singapore </h1> <h3><i> Singapore is the worlds first machine that works </i>- Lee Kuan Yew </h3> <ul id="gallery"> <li><a href="#"> <img src="gallery.jpg" alt="gallery" /> <p> Gallery </p> </a></li> <li><a href="#"> <img src="facts.jpg" alt="facts" /> <p> Facts </p></a></li> <li><a href="#"> <img src="tour.jpg" alt="tour" /> <p> Tour </p></a></li> <li><a href="#"> <img src="author.jpg" alt="author" /> <p> Author </p> </a></li> </ul> <br/> </div><!-- Container --> </body> <html> Thanks!

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  • Android add image to button

    - by Christiaan de Jong
    I want to add an image to a Button (no imagebutton, as the particular button can either contain text or an image; plus the imagebutton has the same problem), while still retaining the original android-style button. So adding android:background in the XML doesn't cut it, as that will remove the android default button with rounded corners etc. (android.R.drawable.btn_default) Is this in any way possible? I think one way is to make a 9patch image for the button pressed (one for up and one for down) and onTouch Action_DOWN make a layered background drawable and put that onto the button, and doing the same thing but with another 9patch for onTouch Action_UP, but I think that will decrease the performance of the application substantially, as that will require quite a lot of resource reading and layer merging for all the button clicks (and for my application, that will be quite a lot). Is what I state above correct?

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  • iPhone development books

    - by hhafez
    I've looked on SO and it seems that most people have been recomending books as the best iphone development resource due to the lack of resources on the web. I've seen the book the The Pragmatic Programmer: iPhone SDK development been recomended a few times. I'm planning to go buy a couple of books. Which should I go for? Please give reason :) A bit of background : I have a strong background in C and I've played around with Cocoa so something iphone specific would be best ( but I'm open for suggestions ;)) Update I'm not looking for simple listings of iphone SDK related books, I can google that ;) I want books that people are reading/have read and would recomend :) Final Update I just ordered my copy of Beginning iPhone Development: Exploring the iPhone SDK. My main reasons on chosing it are that it's already in print (unlike the pragmatic one) and I looked at the preview on their website and I liked it.

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  • Why my :hover aren't working?

    - by user1628488
    I have am nav, and when i hover some elements, the submenu should be displayed 'block', but this dont work. See <!doctype html> <html lang="pt-br"> <head> <meta charset="utf-8" /> <meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow" /> <meta name="generator" content="Notepad++" /> <meta name="author" content="Erick Ribeiro" /> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="60" /> <title>Mozilla Firefox</title> <style type="text/css"> *{ font-family: calibri; } #menu { float: left; } .submenu { margin-top: 26px; padding: 10px; border: solid 1px rgb(224, 224, 224); background: rgb(254, 254, 254); color: rgb(0, 128, 224); border-radius: 0 0 4px 4px; } #menuHome:hover ~ #submenuControle { display: block; opacity: 0; color: red; } #submenuHome { display: none; opacity: 0; } #submenuControle { display: block; opacity: 1; } #submenuGestão { display: none; opacity: 0; } #submenuRL { display: none; opacity: 0; } #submenuSI { display: none; opacity: 0; } ul { float: left; list-style-type: none; padding: 0; margin: 0; } li { display: inline; float:left; } .primeiroItem { border: solid rgb(224, 224, 224); border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-radius: 4px 0 0 4px; } .naoPrimeiroItem { border: solid rgb(224, 224, 224); border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 0; } .ultimoItem { border: solid rgb(224, 224, 224); border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 0; border-radius: 0 4px 4px 0; } a { text-decoration:none; padding: 8px; border: solid 1px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background: rgb(240,240, 240); } a:visited { color: rgb(0, 0, 0); } </style> <script type="text/javascript"> </script> </head> <body> <nav id="menu"> <ul> <li><a id="menuHome" class="primeiroItem" href="#">Home</a></li> <li><a id="menuControle" class="naoPrimeiroItem" href="#">Controle</a></li> <li><a id="menuGestao" class="naoPrimeiroItem" href="#">Gestão</a></li> <li><a id="menuRL" class="naoPrimeiroItem" href="#">Relatórios e Listas</a></li> <li><a id="menuSI" class="ultimoItem" href="#">Sistema Informação</a></li> </ul> <div id="submenuHome" class="submenu"> </div> <div id="submenuControle" class="submenu"> BSC Comunicação Treinamento Documentos Controle de Acesso </div> <div id="submenuGestão" class="submenu"> ASV Treinamento Suprimentos Chamados</div> <div id="submenuRL" class="submenu"> Listas Relatórios </div> <div id="submenuSI" class="submenu"> </div> </nav> </body> </html>

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  • GDI+, using DrawImage to draw a transperancy mask of the source image

    - by sold
    Is it possible to draw a transperancy mask of an image (that is, paint all visible pixels with a constant color) using Graphics::DrawImage? I am not looking for manually scanning the image pixel-by-pixel and creating a seperate mask image, I wonder if it's possible to draw one directly from the original image. My guessing is that it should be done with certain manipulations to ImageAttributes, if possible at all. The color of the mask is arbitrary and should be accurate, and it would be a plus if there can be a threshold value for the transparency.

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  • sub menu border calls onmouseout event

    - by insanepaul
    I've created a simple menu and submenu with tags(not allowed to use ul elements). To access the submenu the user hovers their mouse over the menu item. I use the onmouseover and onmouseout events to either show or hide the sub menu depending on which item is selected. A pipe (|) is used to seperate each submenu item and this is what is causing me problems. When a user hovers their mouse above the pipe character the subMenu div calls the onmouseout event which is not what I want. So I added padding around the pipe character and a minus margin so that there were no gaps between the pipe character and the other elements. This worked for all browsers including IE8. But in IE7 (I haven't tested IE6 yet) the submenu div calls the onmouseout event when I touch the top bit of either the left or right border of the pipe character span element. <div id="subMenu" onmouseout="hideSubMenu()" > <div id="opinionSubMenu" onmouseover="showOpinionSubMenu()"> <a id="Blogs" href="HTMLNew.htm">BLOGS</a> <span class="SubMenuDelimiter">|</span> <a id="Comments" href="HTMLNew.htm">COMMENTS</a> <span class="SubMenuDelimiter">|</span> <a id="Views" href="HTMLNew.htm">VIEWS</a> </div> <div id="learningSubMenu" onmouseover="showLearningSubMenu()"> <a id="Articles" href="HTMLNew.htm">ARTICLES</a> <span class="SubMenuDelimiter">|</span> <a id="CoursesCases" href="HTMLNew.htm">COURSES & CASES</a> <span class="SubMenuDelimiter">|</span> <a id="PracticeImpact" href="HTMLNew.htm">PRACTICE IMPACT</a> </div> </div> This is my css class #subMenu{ padding:10px 0px; background-color:#F58F2D; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Lucida Sans Unicode; font-size:14px; float:left; width:100%; display:none;} #Blogs, #Comments, #Views, #Articles { padding:10px 5px; background:none repeat scroll 0 0 transparent; color:#000000; font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none; border:solid 1px black;} #Blogs:hover, #Comments:hover, #Views:hover, #Articles:hover{ color:#ffffff; text-decoration:none;} .SubMenuDelimiter{ padding:10px 5px; margin:10px -5px;}

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  • Stretching DIV to 100% height and width of window but not less than 800x600px

    - by El Eme
    I have a page that needs to stretch and resize with with window and I've managed to do that but I need that the "inner div" (#pgContent) stretch if the window is resized to higher dimensions but that it doesn't shrink more than, let's say for example 800 x 600 px. As I have it now it stretches well but it also shrinks more than I want! It's working as I want in width but not in height!? Here's a visual example: My CSS: * { margin: 0; padding: 0; outline: 0; } /*| PAGE LAYOUT |*/ html, body { height: 100%; width: 100%; /*text-align: center;*/ /*IE doesn't ~like this*/ cursor: default; } #pgWrapper { z-index: 1; min-height: 100%; height: auto !important; /*min-height: 600px;*/ /* THIS SHOULD WORK BUT IT DOESN'T */ height: 100%; min-width: 1000px; width: 100%; position: absolute; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; background: #000; } #pgContent { position: absolute; top: 30px; left: 30px; right: 30px; bottom: 50px; overflow: hidden; background: #CCC; } #footWrapper { z-index: 2; height: 50px; min-width: 940px; position: absolute; left: 30px; right: 30px; bottom: 0px; background: #C00; } /*| END PAGE LAYOUT |*/ And the HTML: <body> <div id="pgWrapper"> <div id="pgContent"> This DIV should stretch with window but never lower than for example 800px x 600px!<br /> If window size is lower then scrollbars should appear. </div> </div> <div id="footWrapper"> <div id="footLft"></div> <div id="footRgt"></div> </div> </body> If someone could give me a help on this I would appreciate. Thanks in advance.

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  • NSBezierPath with transparent fill

    - by nosedive25
    I've got a NSBezierPath that needs to have a semi-transparent fill. When I fill it with a solid color, I get the expected result. However, when filled with a semi-transparent color I get a path with a rounded stroke but an odd, rectangular fill. It looks like: Instead of filling the entire area, I get a filled rectangle inside the stoke with a small, unfilled boarder. I set up my path as follows: NSBezierPath *menuItem = [NSBezierPath bezierPathWithRoundedRect:menuItemRect xRadius:3 yRadius:3] [menuItem setLineWidth:4.0]; [menuItem setLineJoinStyle:NSRoundLineJoinStyle]; [[NSColor whiteColor] set]; [menuItem stroke]; [[NSColor colorWithCalibratedRed:0.000 green:0.000 blue:0.000 alpha:0.500] set]; [menuItem fill]; If anyones got any ideas, that would be great. Thanks

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  • An image cropper: How to prevent the default drag n' drop action?

    - by David Gore
    I am developing an image cropper and would like to ask you the following question: In order to prevent the default drag n' drop action when you press the left button on an image and keeping it pressed try to move the mouse, wouldn't it be cross-browser if to just use the picture as a background to a div box? Just like so: <div id="theDiv" style="background:url(pic.png) no-repeat;"></div> How do you think? Is it acceptable? Not too ugly? Or should be done with JS?

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  • Using css "active tab" technique on single page

    - by flash
    I'm building a navigation system using jquery scrollto. I have my navigation menu in a separate file (( navigation.php )). It is included in 5 locations on the first page (( 5 different sections w/ text following each )). I'm trying to figure out a way to have the current "tab" highlight'd. I could hard code the navigation in each location to ensure it shows up the correct way, but I'd rather use the phpinclude() method. The other issue is that each "tab" has it's own unique color (( cmykd )). Here is the alpha version of what I'm doing (( when you click && the page slides, the "active tab" still stays grey -- I'd like it to be the corresponding color )). Hope this all makes sense && thanks in advance !!

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  • How to rate a connect four game situation in java

    - by MrPink
    Hey, I am trying to write a simple AI for a "Get four" game. The basic game principles are done, so I can throw in coins of different color, and they stack on each other and fill a 2D Array and so on and so forth. until now this is what the method looks like: public int insert(int x, int color) //0 = empty, 1=player1 2=player2" X is the horizontal coordinate, as the y coordinate is determined by how many stones are in the array already, I think the idea is obvious. Now the problem is I have to rate specific game situations, so find how many new pairs, triplets and possible 4 in a row I can get in a specific situation to then give each situation a specific value. With these values I can setup a "Game tree" to then decide which move would be best next (later on implementing Alpha-Beta-Pruning). My current problem is that I can't think of an efficient way to implement a rating of the current game situation in a java method. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! greetings from Germany Mr. Pink

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  • A depth (z-index) nightmare.

    - by JCOC611
    The best way to illustrate this question is with...a Fiddle! Before you visit the fiddle, notice there is text behind the grayest element, which is on top of a light gray element that has a border. There is a main wrapping div (root), and two wrapping divs inside (wrap1 and wrap2). The problem here is that I need the content of wrap2 (highlight) to be behind the content of wrap1 (text), but in front of the background of the root. This, however, must not change: The HTML, the elements and wraps should be left untouched. Excluding the order of wrap1 and wrap2 inside root. The highlight div must keep the absolute positioning. Styling highlight with background-color is not an option, the existence of highlight is a must. PS: the italics reference the id's of <div>s in the fiddle example, for whomever was too lazy to visit it.

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  • Jquery draggable + toggleClass problem..

    - by vrynxzent
    the problem here is that the toggleClass position top:0px; left:0px will not trigger.. only the width and height and background-color will activate.. it will work if i will not drag the div(draggable).. if i start to drag the element, the toggled class positioning will not effect.. i dont know if there's such a function in jquery to help this.. <html> <head> <title></title> <script type="text/javascript" src="jquery-1.4.2.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="jquery.ui.core.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="jquery.ui.widget.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="jquery.ui.mouse.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="jquery.ui.resizable.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="jquery.ui.draggable.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> $(document).ready(function(){ $("#x").draggable().dblclick(function(){ $(this).toggleClass("hi"); }); }); </script> <style> .hello { background:red; width:200px; height:200px; position:relative; top:100px; left:100px; } .hi { background:yellow; position:relative; width:300px; height:300px; top:0px; left:0px; } </style> </head> <body> <div id="x" class="hello"> </div> </body> </html>

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  • image on top of button android

    - by N-AccessDev
    Is it possible to add an image(view) on top of a button (which as a background image)? I'm porting an iOS app to Android and it wasn't a problem on iOS, but I'm wondering if it is the right approach on Android because of layouts. Edit : To clarify, check this screen shot : http://a4.mzstatic.com/us/r1000/062/Purple/v4/7c/4b/cd/7c4bcd53-ba55-94d7-a26c-ce1bfe040003/mza_2736801523527387264.320x480-75.jpg I need to do the bottom left button "carte" (card in french) I need : a button with a background image an image displayed on top of the button which is loaded from internet (a card , there is a lot of different and news cards are added daily, in the screnshot it s "MIDI PASS" ) a text localised on the button , so I cant use Imagebutton class.

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  • Wastage of resources in Virtualization

    - by Sabeen Malik
    I am not sure if this is the write place to ask the question. However i hope it is. When looking for a VPS earlier today, I was trying to understand how each container would work in the background. Keeping in mind the fact that the operating system uses most of the power and power on a system, wouldn't having multiple operating systems in the same machine mean more wastage of resources. For instance if i was running centOS on a dedicated box and it was running lets say 20 background OS level processes. Then i go and install a virtualization platform and install 5 more centOS virtual machines in the same system which are exactly the same as the host operating system. Doesn't this mean duplication of those 20 processes 6 times? So internally the context switching is happening between 120 processes instead of 20?

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  • Why are items being placed below?

    - by Adam DePolo
    This is really confusing and I have never had this occur. For my computer, it is fine. But for anyone else's computer I have tried, it screws up. So on my site, designatease.com , the second bar down, it places the fifth item down below the first four. I am not sure why it is doing this. I want them to span across the bar but the stop at about half way. Help me out SOF. HTML <html> <head> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css" /> <title>Design At Ease - Home</title> </head> <body> <div id="header"> <div id="logo"><a class="logoclass">DesignAtEase.com</a></div> <ul id="headerlinks"> <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li> <li><a href="coding.html">Coding</a></li> <li><a href="graphics.html">Graphics</a></li> <li><a href="database.html">Database</a></li> <li><a href="support.html">Support</a></li> <li><a href="more.html">More</a></li> </ul> </div> <ul id="quicklinks"> <li><a href="quickstart.html">Quick Start</a></li> <li><a href="tagsmain.html">Tag Helper</a></li> <li><a href="html.html">HTML</a></li> <li><a href="css.html">CSS</a></li> <li><a href="photoshop.html">Photoshop</a></li> <li><a href="quickstart.html">Quick Start</a></li> <li><a href="tagsmain.html">Tag Helper</a></li> </ul> </body> </html> CSS body{ background:#fffffc; margin: auto auto; } #header{ background:#e5e5e5; height:35px; width:100%; border-bottom: 1px #c9c9c9 solid; } #headerlinks{ position:relative; display:inline; float:right; margin-right:5%; bottom:37px; } #headerlinks li{ display:inline; padding-left:25px; } #headerlinks li a{ color:#777777; display:inline; font-size:18px; font-family: sans-serif; text-decoration:none; } #headerlinks li a:hover{ color:#a3a3a3; display:inline; font-size:18px; font-family: sans-serif; text-decoration:none; } #logo{ position:relative; color:black; margin-left:5%; top:5px; } .logoclass{ color:#212121; display:inline; font-size:24px; font-family: sans-serif; text-decoration:none; } #quicklinks{ width:90%; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;; height:25px; background:#e5e5e5; border-bottom: 1px #c9c9c9 solid; border-left: 1px #c9c9c9 solid; border-right: 1px #c9c9c9 solid; top:-16px; position:relative; } #quicklinks li{ display:inline; } #quicklinks li a{ } #quicklinks li a:hover{ } #wrapper{ width:80%; height:100%; }

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  • Issue with android tablayout switch tab

    - by user330915
    I am a new android developer, just tried something with Android Tablayout. There are two tabs and one tab has a GridView and the other one has a DatePicker. I created an activity and layout for each tab. The problem is that when I switch to the gridView, the background is not refreshed, and the images are just drawn over the DatePicker, so through images, the DatePicker still can be seen. It really bothers me. What should I do to have a clean background for imageView? Steve

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  • Refactor C++ code to use a scripting language?

    - by Justin Ardini
    Background: I have been working on a platformer game written in C++ for a few months. The game is currently written entirely in C++, though I am intrigued by the possibility of using Lua for enemy AI and possibly some other logic. However, the project was designed without Lua in mind, and I have already written working C++ code for much of the AI. I am hoping Lua can improve the extensibility of the game, but don't know if it would make sense to convert existing C++ code into Lua. The question: When, if ever, is it appropriate to take fully functional C++ code and refactor it into a scripting language like Lua? The question is intentionally a bit vague, so feel free give answers that are not relevant to the given background.

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  • Chrome extension - Message Passing

    - by Felipe Barreiros
    Hey there. I'm trying to get the info that is set on the Options Page to alter the behavior of my extension. Basically, if a checkbox on OptionsPage is set to true, the extension runs, otherwise it doesn't. I'm returning true on the background.html for testing purposes, but still, it doesn't work. Would you guys help me out? Thanks! Code being injected to the page: if(chrome.extension.sendRequest() == 'true') alert("checkbox set to true"); else alert("it is disabled"); background.html <script> chrome.extension.onRequest.addListener(function(){ return true; } </script>

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  • highlight search keywords on hover

    - by fusion
    i've a basic php search form which highlights the keywords using css. i was wondering if i could make the keywords in the results highlight only when the user hovers over the record. is this possible? this is the highlight code: function highlightWords($text, $words) { preg_match_all('~\w+~', $words, $m); if(!$m) return $text; $re = '~\\b(' . implode('|', $m[0]) . ')~i'; $string = preg_replace($re, '<span class="highlight">$0</span>', $text); return $string; } . . . <table class="result"> <?php while ($row= mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC)) { $cQuote = highlightWords(htmlspecialchars($row['cQuotes']), $search_result); ?> <tr> <td style="text-align:right; font-size:15px;"><?php h($row['cArabic']); ?></td> <td style="font-size:16px;"><?php echo $cQuote; ?></td> <td style="font-size:12px;"><?php h($row['vAuthor']); ?></td> <td style="font-size:12px; font-style:italic; text-align:right;"><?php h($row['vReference']); ?></td> </tr> <?php } ?> </table> css: table.result tr:hover { background:#F7F7F7; } .highlight { font-weight:bold; color: #DE2842; padding:5px; padding-right:2px; background: #FFFCDB; } i tried changing the color through highlight:hover, but this changed the color of the search keyword only when i hovered over the keyword itself, which is understandable since that's the way it is supposed to work, but i'd like the search keywords to be highlighted when i hover over the result as a whole.

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  • Adding fields to a proxied class in Clojure

    - by mikera
    I'm using "proxy" to extend various Swing classes in a Clojure GUI application, generally with code that looks something like: (def ^JPanel mypanel (proxy [JPanel] [] (paintComponent [#^Graphics g] (.drawImage g background-image 0 0 nil)))) This works well but I can't figure out how to add additional fields to the newly extended class, for example making the background-image a field that could be subsequently updated. This would be pretty easy and common practice in Java. Is there a good way to do this in Clojure? Or is there another preferred method to achieve the same effect?

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