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• Why Wifi no longer works 12.04.1

  - by Roger

  starting this morning over wifi (Realtek RTL8188CE) on CLEVO W253HU. May be due to the update before yesterday, more pilot managed, but somehow it worked yesterday. If someone has an idea of the problem. Back command lines: cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 006: ID 192f:0416 Avago Technologies, Pte. Bus 002 Device 004: ID 5986:0315 Acer, Inc lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b5) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b5) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05) 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 05) 03:00.1 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller (rev 90) 03:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller (rev 90) 03:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller (rev 90) lspci -nn | grep -i net 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [197b:0250] (rev 05) lspci -k 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: mei Kernel modules: mei 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5) Kernel driver in use: pcieport Kernel modules: shpchp 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b5) Kernel driver in use: pcieport Kernel modules: shpchp 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b5) Kernel driver in use: pcieport Kernel modules: shpchp 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: ahci 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel modules: i2c-i801 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 9196 Kernel modules: rtl8192ce 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: jme Kernel modules: jme 03:00.1 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller (rev 90) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci Kernel modules: sdhci-pci 03:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller (rev 90) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel modules: sdhci-pci 03:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller (rev 90) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device 4140 Kernel driver in use: jmb38x_ms Kernel modules: jmb38x_ms sudo lshw -C network *-network NON-RÉCLAMÉ description: Network controller produit: RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter fabriquant: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. identifiant matériel: 0 information bus: pci@0000:02:00.0 version: 01 bits: 64 bits horloge: 33MHz fonctionnalités: pm msi pciexpress cap_list configuration: latency=0 ressources: portE/S:e000(taille=256) mémoire:f7d00000-f7d03fff *-network description: Ethernet interface produit: JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller fabriquant: JMicron Technology Corp. identifiant matériel: 0 information bus: pci@0000:03:00.0 nom logique: eth0 version: 05 numéro de série: 00:90:f5:c1:c6:45 taille: 100Mbit/s capacité: 1Gbit/s bits: 32 bits horloge: 33MHz fonctionnalités: pm pciexpress msix msi bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=jme driverversion=1.0.8 duplex=full ip=192.168.1.54 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s ressources: irq:44 mémoire:f7c20000-f7c23fff portE/S:d100(taille=128) portE/S:d000(taille=256) mémoire:f7c10000-f7c1ffff mémoire:f7c00000-f7c0ffff lsmod Module Size Used by btusb 18288 0 rfcomm 47604 0 bnep 18281 2 bluetooth 180104 11 btusb,rfcomm,bnep parport_pc 32866 0 ppdev 17113 0 binfmt_misc 17540 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek 224173 0 dm_crypt 23125 0 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 32474 0 uvcvideo 72627 0 videodev 98259 1 uvcvideo v4l2_compat_ioctl32 17128 1 videodev snd_hda_intel 33773 2 snd_hda_codec 127706 3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 13668 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 97188 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi 13324 0 snd_rawmidi 30748 1 snd_seq_midi jmb38x_ms 17646 0 psmouse 87692 0 serio_raw 13211 0 memstick 16569 1 jmb38x_ms snd_seq_midi_event 14899 1 snd_seq_midi rtl8192ce 84826 0 rtl8192c_common 75767 1 rtl8192ce rtlwifi 111202 1 rtl8192ce snd_seq 61896 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 29990 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 14540 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq mac80211 506816 3 rtl8192ce,rtl8192c_common,rtlwifi mac_hid 13253 0 snd 78855 14 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device cfg80211 205544 2 rtlwifi,mac80211 soundcore 15091 1 snd snd_page_alloc 18529 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm mei 41616 0 lp 17799 0 parport 46562 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp usbhid 47199 0 hid 99559 1 usbhid i915 473035 3 drm_kms_helper 46978 1 i915 drm 242038 4 i915,drm_kms_helper jme 41259 0 i2c_algo_bit 13423 1 i915 sdhci_pci 18826 0 sdhci 33205 1 sdhci_pci wmi 19256 0 video 19596 1 i915 iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:f5:c1:c6:45 inet adr:192.168.1.54 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 adr inet6: fe80::290:f5ff:fec1:c645/64 Scope:Lien UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Packets reçus:4513 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4359 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000 Octets reçus:3471675 (3.4 MB) Octets transmis:712722 (712.7 KB) Interruption:44 lo Link encap:Boucle locale inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 Packets reçus:686 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:686 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 Octets reçus:64556 (64.5 KB) Octets transmis:64556 (64.5 KB) sudo iwlist scan lo Interface doesn't support scanning. eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. uname -r -m 3.2.0-30-generic x86_64 cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback nm-tool NetworkManager Tool State: connected (global) - Device: eth0 [Connexion filaire 1] ------------------------------------------ Type: Wired Driver: jme State: connected Default: yes HW Address: 00:90:F5:C1:C6:45 Capabilities: Carrier Detect: yes Speed: 100 Mb/s Wired Properties Carrier: on IPv4 Settings: Address: 192.168.1.54 Prefix: 24 (255.255.255.0) Gateway: 192.168.1.1 DNS: 192.168.1.1 sudo rfkill listrfkill list 1: hci0: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no The absence of line "Kernel driver in use:" the return of lspci-k made ??me think that it is not loaded yet but he seems to be. lsmod | grep rtl8192ce rtl8192ce 137478 0 rtlwifi 118749 1 rtl8192ce mac80211 506816 2 rtl8192ce,rtlwifi I found something disturbing in / var / log / syslog Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.048783] rtl8192ce-0:rtl92c_init_sw_vars():<0-0> Failed to request firmware! Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.048795] rtlwifi-0:rtl_pci_probe():<0-0> Can't init_sw_vars. Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.048835] rtl8192ce 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A disabled Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.943345] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x7fffffff SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.943358] ata1.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.943371] ata1.00: cmd 60/00:00:00:68:6a/04:00:0b:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 524288 in Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.943374] res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Sep 14 11:40:11 pcroger kernel: [ 64.943381] ata1.00: status: { DRDY } Ubuntu and takes forever to start (2 min).

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• How to know when the kernel was last compiled? [closed]

  - by Mehmet Tuncal

  I have installed a linux distro and I "think" it is vulnerable to kernel exploits. I have to update kernel but I need to know if it is really compiled in year 2003? How can I know if additional updates are made to the kernel? Linux gandalf 2.4.21-4.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Oct 3 17:52:56 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Does also "smp" mean that it is safe from latest threats or something? Thank you.

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• How to make people new to programming stop asking me questions and distracting me?

  - by Radek S

  I am at secondary school right now and I'm the only one in my class who is experienced with programming. Because of that, people are constantly distracting me while I'm writing code to ask me to solve a problem. Usually I reply with something like 'I don't know, I never use that' but I don't want to lie to people. Another problem is that I became so well known for this that even students from other classes are asking me questions. I find this damn annoying. Thirdly, if I solve a problem for them they don't learn anything from it. How can I stop people from asking me programming-related questions in a kind way? I really don't like the lessons anymore (I am also punished with the need to use Windows, but that's less of an issue), but just don't visiting them is illegal by law.

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• Mouse takes a while to start working after boot

  - by warkior

  I just recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 (64 bit) and a number of my USB devices have stopped working. At least, they don't work for the first 3-5 minutes. I have two mice (one wireless, one wired) and a camera, which seem to take Ubuntu 3-5 minutes to recognize after booting up. Eventually, they do start to work, but it takes ages! lsusb results: (when the mice are working...) $ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c512 Logitech, Inc. LX-700 Cordless Desktop Receiver Bus 003 Device 003: ID 03f0:3f11 Hewlett-Packard PSC-1315/PSC-1317 Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c00c Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 006 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver syslog entries for what seems (to my very untrained eye) to be the problem: Oct 12 20:12:51 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 17.420117] usb 2-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:12:57 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H goa[1879]: goa-daemon version 3.4.0 starting [main.c:112, main()] Oct 12 20:13:06 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 32.636107] usb 2-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:13:06 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 32.852122] usb 2-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci_hcd Oct 12 20:13:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 47.964131] usb 2-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:13:37 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 63.180115] usb 2-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:13:37 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 63.396126] usb 2-3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd Oct 12 20:13:47 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 73.804158] usb 2-3: device not accepting address 4, error -110 Oct 12 20:13:47 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 73.916190] usb 2-3: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 84.324160] usb 2-3: device not accepting address 5, error -110 Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 84.324197] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3 Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H udev-configure-printer: failed to claim interface Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H udev-configure-printer: Failed to get parent Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H udev-configure-printer: device devpath is /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.0/usb3/3-3 Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H udev-configure-printer: MFG:hp MDL:psc 1310 series SERN:CN47CB60BJO2 serial:CN47CB60BJO2 Oct 12 20:13:58 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 84.768132] usb 5-3: new full-speed USB device number 2 using ohci_hcd Oct 12 20:14:01 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H udev-configure-printer: no corresponding CUPS device found Oct 12 20:14:13 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 99.904185] usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:14:29 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 115.144188] usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:14:29 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 115.384178] usb 5-3: new full-speed USB device number 3 using ohci_hcd Oct 12 20:14:44 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 130.520196] usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:14:59 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 145.760179] usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 Oct 12 20:14:59 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 146.000173] usb 5-3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Oct 12 20:15:10 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 156.408168] usb 5-3: device not accepting address 4, error -110 Oct 12 20:15:10 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 156.544188] usb 5-3: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ohci_hcd Oct 12 20:15:20 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 166.952181] usb 5-3: device not accepting address 5, error -110 Oct 12 20:15:20 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 166.952215] hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3 Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.216164] usb 6-2: new low-speed USB device number 2 using ohci_hcd Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H mtp-probe: checking bus 6, device 2: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb6/6-2" Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H mtp-probe: bus: 6, device: 2 was not an MTP device Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.396138] input: Logitech USB Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb6/6-2/6-2:1.0/input/input16 Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.396442] generic-usb 0003:046D:C00C.0003: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB Mouse] on usb-0000:00:13.1-2/input0 Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.660187] usb 6-3: new full-speed USB device number 3 using ohci_hcd Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H mtp-probe: checking bus 6, device 3: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb6/6-3" Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H mtp-probe: bus: 6, device: 3 was not an MTP device Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.859045] logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0006: hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Device [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:13.1-3/input2 Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.865086] input: Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:400a as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.1/usb6/6-3/6-3:1.2/0003:046D:C52B.0006/input/input17 Oct 12 20:15:21 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H kernel: [ 167.865291] logitech-djdevice 0003:046D:C52B.0007: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:400a] on usb-0000:00:13.1-3:1 Oct 12 20:15:24 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H colord: io/hpmud/musb.c 139: unable get_string_descriptor -1: Operation not permitted Oct 12 20:15:24 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H colord: io/hpmud/musb.c 2040: invalid product id string ret=-1 Oct 12 20:15:24 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H colord: io/hpmud/musb.c 139: unable get_string_descriptor -1: Operation not permitted Oct 12 20:15:24 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H colord: io/hpmud/musb.c 2045: invalid serial id string ret=-1 Oct 12 20:15:24 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H colord: io/hpmud/musb.c 139: unable get_string_descriptor -1: Operation not permitted Oct 12 20:15:24 REMOVED-GA-MA785GM-US2H colord: io/hpmud/musb.c 2050: invalid manufacturer string ret=-1

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• How do you choose to use a specific programming language?

  - by Jesús Bracamonte

  I was having a small talk between teammates about how you choose a programming language for use in a project which lead me to think that there are many criteria to choose one in the beginning of a project but no real standard. Do you chose a programming language for the syntax and semantics? Or do you choose one because it has the best support to do certain things? Or because you have better libraries? Or do you choose it for the paradigm? What criteria do you use to choose one language when you are going to do a project?

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• Server hung with "blocked for more than 120 seconds", diskless

  - by alterpub

  I have server which hung every 2-5 days. dmesg show following situation: kernel: [490894.231753] INFO: task munin-html:10187 blocked for more than 120 seconds. kernel: [490894.231799] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. kernel: [490894.231843] munin-html D 0000000000000000 0 10187 9796 0x00000000 kernel: [490894.231878] ffff88063174b968 0000000000000082 ffff88063174b8d8 0000000000015b80 kernel: [490894.231930] ffff88063174bfd8 0000000000015b80 ffff88063174bfd8 ffff88062fe644d0 kernel: [490894.231982] 0000000000015b80 0000000000015b80 ffff88063174bfd8 0000000000015b80 kernel: [490894.232033] Call Trace: kernel: [490894.232059] [<ffffffff8117fce0>] ? sync_buffer+0x0/0x50 kernel: [490894.232089] [<ffffffff815a1f13>] io_schedule+0x73/0xc0 kernel: [490894.232115] [<ffffffff8117fd25>] sync_buffer+0x45/0x50 kernel: [490894.232143] [<ffffffff815a258f>] __wait_on_bit+0x5f/0x90 kernel: [490894.232170] [<ffffffff8117fce0>] ? sync_buffer+0x0/0x50 kernel: [490894.232197] [<ffffffff815a2638>] out_of_line_wait_on_bit+0x78/0x90 kernel: [490894.232227] [<ffffffff81080250>] ? wake_bit_function+0x0/0x40 kernel: [490894.232255] [<ffffffff8117fcd6>] __wait_on_buffer+0x26/0x30 kernel: [490894.232288] [<ffffffffa00131be>] squashfs_read_data+0x1be/0x520 [squashfs] kernel: [490894.232320] [<ffffffff8114f0f1>] ? __mem_cgroup_try_charge+0x71/0x450 kernel: [490894.232350] [<ffffffffa0013963>] squashfs_cache_get+0x1c3/0x320 [squashfs] kernel: [490894.232381] [<ffffffffa00136eb>] ? squashfs_copy_data+0x10b/0x130 [squashfs] kernel: [490894.232426] [<ffffffff815a3dbe>] ? _raw_spin_lock+0xe/0x20 kernel: [490894.232454] [<ffffffffa0013b68>] ? squashfs_read_metadata+0x48/0xf0 [squashfs] kernel: [490894.232499] [<ffffffffa0013ae1>] squashfs_get_datablock+0x21/0x30 [squashfs] kernel: [490894.232544] [<ffffffffa0015026>] squashfs_readpage+0x436/0x4a0 [squashfs] kernel: [490894.232575] [<ffffffff8111a375>] ? __inc_zone_page_state+0x35/0x40 kernel: [490894.232606] [<ffffffff8110d072>] __do_page_cache_readahead+0x172/0x210 kernel: [490894.232636] [<ffffffff8110d131>] ra_submit+0x21/0x30 kernel: [490894.232662] [<ffffffff811045f3>] filemap_fault+0x3f3/0x450 kernel: [490894.232691] [<ffffffff812bd156>] ? prio_tree_insert+0x256/0x2b0 kernel: [490894.232726] [<ffffffffa009225d>] aufs_fault+0x11d/0x170 [aufs] kernel: [490894.232755] [<ffffffff8111f6d4>] __do_fault+0x54/0x560 kernel: [490894.232782] [<ffffffff81122f39>] handle_mm_fault+0x1b9/0x440 kernel: [490894.232811] [<ffffffff811286f5>] ? do_mmap_pgoff+0x335/0x380 kernel: [490894.232840] [<ffffffff815a7af5>] do_page_fault+0x125/0x350 kernel: [490894.232867] [<ffffffff815a4675>] page_fault+0x25/0x30 Os info cat /etc/issue.net Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS uname -a Linux Shard1Host3 2.6.35-32-server #68~lucid1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 28 18:33:00 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux This system load via ltsp and hasn't harddrives also it has a lot of memory 24Gb. free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 24152 17090 7061 0 50 494 -/+ buffers/cache: 16545 7607 Swap: 0 0 0 I put vmstat info here but I think it won't give results after reboot vmstat 1 30 procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu---- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa 0 0 0 7231156 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 172 143 7 0 92 0 1 0 0 7231024 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7859 16233 5 0 94 0 0 0 0 7231024 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7870 16446 2 0 98 0 0 0 0 7230900 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7308 15661 5 0 95 0 0 0 0 7231100 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7960 16543 6 0 94 0 0 0 0 7231100 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7542 16047 5 1 94 0 3 0 0 7231100 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7709 16621 3 0 96 0 0 0 0 7231220 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7857 16552 4 0 96 0 0 0 0 7231220 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7192 15491 6 0 94 0 0 0 0 7231220 52196 506400 0 0 0 0 7423 15792 5 1 94 0 1 0 0 7231260 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7686 16296 2 0 98 0 0 0 0 7231260 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 6976 15183 5 0 95 0 0 0 0 7231260 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7303 15600 4 0 95 0 0 0 0 7231320 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7967 16241 1 0 98 0 0 0 0 7231444 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 6948 15113 6 0 94 0 0 0 0 7231444 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7931 16181 6 0 94 0 1 0 0 7231516 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7715 15829 6 0 94 0 0 0 0 7231516 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7771 16036 2 0 97 0 0 0 0 7231268 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7782 16202 6 0 94 0 1 0 0 7231212 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7457 15622 4 0 96 0 0 0 0 7231212 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7573 16045 2 0 98 0 2 0 0 7231216 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7689 16076 6 0 94 0 0 0 0 7231424 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7429 15650 4 0 95 0 3 0 0 7231424 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7534 16168 3 0 97 0 1 0 0 7230548 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 8559 15926 7 1 92 0 0 0 0 7230672 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7720 15905 2 0 98 0 0 0 0 7230548 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7677 16313 5 0 95 0 1 0 0 7230676 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7209 15432 5 0 95 0 0 0 0 7230800 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7522 15861 2 0 98 0 0 0 0 7230552 52196 506404 0 0 0 0 7760 16661 5 0 95 0 In the munin(monitoring system) graphs I see(before server hung): Disk(nbd0) IOs per device: read: 289m but avg by week 2.09m Disk(nbd0) throughput per device: read: 4.73k but avg by week 108.76 Disk(nbd0) utilization per device: 100% but avg by week 1.2% Eth0 traffic was low: in/out only 2Mbps Number of threads increased to 566 usually 392 Fork rate 1.08 but usually 2.82 VMStat(processes state) Increased to 17.77(from 0 as far as I could see in the graph) CPU usage iowait 880.46% when usually 6.67% It'll be great if somebody help me to understand what's up.

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• Are there any specific workflows or design patterns that are commonly used to create large functional programming applications?

  - by Andrew

  I have been exploring Clojure for a while now, although I haven't used it on any nontrivial projects. Basically, I have just been getting comfortable with the syntax and some of the idioms. Coming from an OOP background, with Clojure being the first functional language that I have looked very much into, I'm naturally not as comfortable with the functional way of doing things. That said, are there any specific workflows or design patterns that are common with creating large functional applications? I'd really like to start using functional programming "for real", but I'm afraid that with my current lack of expertise, it would result in an epic fail. The "Gang of Four" is such a standard for OO programmers, but is there anything similar that is more directed at the functional paradigm? Most of the resources that I have found have great programming nuggets, but they don't step back to give a broader, more architectural look.

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• Why did visual programming never take off and what future paradigms might change that?

  - by Rego

  As the number of "visual" OS's such as Android, iOS and the promised Windows 8 are becoming more popular, it does not seem to me that we programmers have new ways to code using these new technologies, due to a possible lack in new visual programming languages paradigms. I've seen several discussions about incompatibilities between the current coding development environment, and the new OS approaches from Windows 8, Android and other tablets OS's. I mean, today if we have a new tablet, it's almost a requirement for coding, to have, for instance, an external keyboard (due it seems to me it's very difficult to program using the touch screen), exactly because the coding assistance is not conceived to "write" thousands of lines of code. So, how advanced should be the "new" visual programming languages paradigms? Which characteristics these new paradigms would be required?

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• How to stop getting too focused on a train of thought when programming?

  - by LDM91

  I often find myself getting too focused on a train of thought when programming, which results in me having what I guess could be described as "tunnel vision". As a result of this I miss important details/clues, which means I waste a fair amount of time before finally deciding the path I'm taking to solve the task is wrong. Afterwards, I take a step back which almost always results in me discovering what I've missed in a lot less time.. It's becoming really frustrating as it feels like I'm wasting a lot of time and effort, so I was wondering if anyone else had experienced similar issues, and had some suggestions to stop going down dead ends and programming "blindly" as it were!

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• When to use functional programming approach and when not? (in Java)

  - by john smith optional

  let's assume I have a task to create a Set of class names. To remove duplication of .getName() method calls for each class, I used org.apache.commons.collections.CollectionUtils and org.apache.commons.collections.Transformer as follows: Snippet 1: Set<String> myNames = new HashSet<String>(); CollectionUtils.collect( Arrays.<Class<?>>asList(My1.class, My2.class, My3.class, My4.class, My5.class), new Transformer() { public Object transform(Object o) { return ((Class<?>) o).getName(); } }, myNames); An alternative would be this code: Snippet 2: Collections.addAll(myNames, My1.class.getName(), My2.class.getName(), My3.class.getName(), My4.class.getName(), My5.class.getName()); So, when using functional programming approach is overhead and when it's not and why? Isn't my usage of functional programming approach in snippet 1 is an overhead and why?

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• Which is the best non-java, dynamic, programming language to build attractive GUIs?

  - by VeeKay

  I am well acquainted with java and groovy but somehow I am not intrigued by the performance or looks of swing based applications that are developed on the same. So I want to learn and know about THE best alternate dynamic programming language (coz I am looking for little bit of luxury while writing code by not willing to fiddle with pointers, memory handling, static typing difficulties etc) to develop attractive cross platform GUIs. To be precise, when I say attractive I mean support for elegant translucent windows and nicer components (not the flashy adobe stuff). Can you please suggest me a programming language that manages to fit into this?

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• What are the first operations that the Linux Kernel executes on boot?

  - by The Rook

  After the boot loader hands execution over to the kernel, what happens? I know assembler, so what are the first few executions that a kernel must make or is there a C function that does this? What is the startup sequence before the kernel can execute an arbitrary binary?

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• Is it normal to feel bad when someone insults a programming language? [closed]

  - by iammilind

  Few examples before the question: "A language is just a tool; Better to worry only about the concept." "C++ is just an object oriented language." "Java is more about the libraries and less about programming." "C# is just a Microsoft's version of Java with some extra things from C++." "Python is a scripting language used mainly for testing purpose." ... All these statements are made knowingly or unknowingly from my colleagues/friends and I often get to hear them. I feel bad when someone brings down any programming language. I don't know how to respond. Is there any one liner to enlighten those people?

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• What are the licensing terms for the Swift Programming Language?

  - by 200_success

  What are the licensing terms of the Swift Programming Language, the API, and runtime? The only mention I have been able to find is from the Copyright and Notices section of Apple's The Swift Programming Language iBook: No licenses, express or implied, are granted with respect to any of the technology described in this document. Apple retains all intellectual property rights associated with the technology described in this document. This document is intended to assist application developers to develop applications only for Apple-branded products. … which suggests that the language is intended to be completely proprietary.

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• How to restore a hidden loadable kernel module from /sys/module and dealing with restoring holders_dir?

  - by user1833005

  I'm playing with kernel module hiding on Linux Kernel 3.x. I try to hide and recover the module from /sys/module. Everything works fine on Kernel Version 3.0 and 3.2.6, I can load and unload the module and hide and unhide it. When I'm unloading the module on kernel 3.6.6 I get the following error: rmmod: ERROR: could not open '/sys/module/xxx/holders': No such file or directory rmmod: ERROR: Module xxx is in use Has anybody an idea how I could restore of the module so that I am able to unload it without errors? Here is my code: /* hide from /sys/module */ kobject_del(&__this_module.mkobj.kobj); list_del(&__this_module.mkobj.kobj.entry); /* add to /sys/module */ kobject_add(&__this_module.mkobj.kobj,__this_module.mkobj.kobj.parent,"xxx"); Thank you four help :)

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• What kind of math should I be expecting in advanced programming?

  - by I_Question_Things_Deeply

  And I don't mean just space shooters and such, because in non-3D environments it's obvious that not much beyond elementary math is needed to implement. Most of the programming in 2D games is mostly going to involve basic arithmetic, algorithms for enemy AI and dimensional worlds, rotation, and maybe some Algebra as well depending on how you want to design. But I ask because I'm not really gifted with math at all. I get frustrated and worn out just by doing Pre-Algebra, so Algebra 2 and Calculus would likely be futile for me. I guess I'm not so "right-brained" when it comes down to pure numbers and math formulas, but the bad part is that I'm no art-expert either. What do you people here suppose I should do? Go along avoiding as much of the extremely difficult maths I can't fathom, or try to ease into more complex math as I excel at programming?

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• What does composability mean in context of functional programming?

  - by Surya

  What do functional programmers mean when they say a certain thing is composable or not composable? Some of the statements of this sort that I've read are: Control structures are not composable. Threads do not compose. Monadic operations are composable.

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• Windows XP: Have my program run in kernel mode?

  - by Kalamari

  I'm currently learning about the different modes the Windows operating system runs in (kernel mode vs. user mode), device drivers, their respective advantages and disadvantages and computer security in general. I would like to create a practical example of what a faulty device driver that runs in kernel mode can do to the system, by for example corrupting memory used for critical OS-processes. How can I execute my code in kernel mode instead of user mode, directly? Do I have to write a dummy device driver and install it to do this? Where can I read more about kernel and user mode in Windows? I know the dangers of this and will do all of the experiments on a virtual machine running Windows XP only

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• Kernel panic error

  - by cioby23

  We have a dedicated server with software RAID1 and one of the disk failed recently. The disk was replaced but after rebuilding the array and rebooting the server freezes with a Kernel Panic message No filesystem could mount root, tried: reiserfs ext3 ext2 cramfs msdos vfat iso9660 romfs fuseblk xfs Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(9,1) The filesystem on both disks is ext4. It seems the kernel can't load ext4 support. Is there any way to add ext4 support or do I need to recompile a new kernel again ? Interesting point that before disk replacement all was fine. The kernel is a stock kernel bzImage-2.6.34.6-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 from our provider OVH Kind regards,

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• Introducing Programming To a Mathematician

  - by ell

  I currently am a programmer, I'm almost 16 years of age and have pretty much narrowed my careers down to something involving a Computer Science degree or Electrical Engineering degree (I know they are quite different but this question is about my friend) but my friend isn't so sure. He is very interested in maths and is very good at it and I think he would enjoy programming but he isn't willing to try it (edit he is willing to try but has never done before). Can anyone give me an suggestions for a language or tool that he could dabble in programming (at a reasonably basic level I assume) to solve maths problems or involve some kind of maths. As I say he enjoys maths a lot but I think he would enjoy programming, the problem is I don't want him to be put off by the stuff that isn't relevant at introductory levels such as memory allocation et al. I know that is very important but the point is that I want him to learn a bit of programming with maths then hopefully if he is interested enough he can start learning programming as programming. Thanks in advance, ell. Edit: Its not that he's completely uninterested - more that he hasn't actively explored the area before, maybe because he isn't informed about it. I wouldn't want to force him to do something he doesn't want to, I see this as more of a little push so that he can learn about programming. If he doesn't like it - fair enough, I can't control that and don't want to but if he turns out to enjoy it - this push will have been the right thing.

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• Programming in academic environment vs industry environment [closed]

  - by user200340

  Possible Duplicate: Differences between programming in school vs programming in industry? This is a general discussion about programming in the industry environment. The background story is that my colleague sent me a very interesting article called "10 Things Entrepreneurs Don’t Learn in College." The first point in that post is about the author's experience of programming in the academic environment vs industry environment. After finishing a 4 year Computer Science degree course, I am currently working in the academic environment as a developer, mainly writing Java, J2EE, Javascript code. I know there are differences between academic programming and industry programming, but I was shocked after reading that post. Trying to avoid this happening on me in the future, or the others. Can anyone from industry give some general advice about how to program in industry. For example, What exactly happens when a task is received? What is the flow from the beginning to the end? What are the main differences between the programming in industry and academia? Is it more structured? Are more frameworks used? It would be great if some code examples could be given. Thanks.

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• Forensic Analysis of the OOM-Killer

  - by Oddthinking

  Ubuntu's Out-Of-Memory Killer wreaked havoc on my server, quietly assassinating my applications, sendmail, apache and others. I've managed to learn what the OOM Killer is, and about its "badness" rules. While my machine is small, my applications are even smaller, and typically only half of my physical memory is in use, let alone swap-space, so I was surprised. I am trying to work out the culprit, but I don't know how to read the OOM-Killer logs. Can anyone please point me to a tutorial on how to read the data in the logs (what are ve, free and gen?), or help me parse these logs? Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selecting to kill, queued 0, seq 1, exc 2326 0 goal 2326 0... Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task ebb0c6f0, thg d33a1b00, sig 1 Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selected 1, signalled 1, queued 1, seq 1, exc 2326 0 red 61795 745 Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selecting to kill, queued 0, seq 2, exc 122 0 goal 383 0... Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task ebb0c6f0, thg d33a1b00, sig 1 Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selected 1, signalled 1, queued 1, seq 2, exc 383 0 red 61795 745 Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task ebb0c6f0, thg d33a1b00, sig 2 Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process watchdog (pid=14490, ve=13516) exited, free=43104 gen=24501. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process tail (pid=4457, ve=13516) exited, free=43104 gen=24502. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process ntpd (pid=10816, ve=13516) exited, free=43104 gen=24503. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process tail (pid=27401, ve=13516) exited, free=43104 gen=24504. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process tail (pid=29009, ve=13516) exited, free=43104 gen=24505. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process apache2 (pid=10557, ve=13516) exited, free=49552 gen=24506. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process apache2 (pid=24983, ve=13516) exited, free=53117 gen=24507. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process apache2 (pid=29129, ve=13516) exited, free=68493 gen=24508. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process sendmail-mta (pid=941, ve=13516) exited, free=68803 gen=24509. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process tail (pid=12418, ve=13516) exited, free=69330 gen=24510. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process python (pid=22953, ve=13516) exited, free=72275 gen=24511. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process apache2 (pid=6624, ve=13516) exited, free=76398 gen=24512. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process python (pid=23317, ve=13516) exited, free=94285 gen=24513. Apr 20 20:03:27 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process tail (pid=29030, ve=13516) exited, free=95339 gen=24514. Apr 20 20:03:28 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process apache2 (pid=20583, ve=13516) exited, free=101663 gen=24515. Apr 20 20:03:28 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process logger (pid=12894, ve=13516) exited, free=101694 gen=24516. Apr 20 20:03:28 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process bash (pid=21119, ve=13516) exited, free=101849 gen=24517. Apr 20 20:03:28 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process atd (pid=991, ve=13516) exited, free=101880 gen=24518. Apr 20 20:03:28 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process apache2 (pid=14649, ve=13516) exited, free=102748 gen=24519. Apr 20 20:03:28 EL135 kernel: OOM killed process grep (pid=21375, ve=13516) exited, free=132167 gen=24520. Apr 20 20:03:57 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selecting to kill, queued 0, seq 4, exc 4215 0 goal 4826 0... Apr 20 20:03:57 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task ede29370, thg df98b880, sig 1 Apr 20 20:03:57 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selected 1, signalled 1, queued 1, seq 4, exc 4826 0 red 189481 331 Apr 20 20:03:57 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task ede29370, thg df98b880, sig 2 Apr 20 20:04:53 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selecting to kill, queued 0, seq 5, exc 3564 0 goal 3564 0... Apr 20 20:04:53 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task c6c90110, thg cdb1a100, sig 1 Apr 20 20:04:53 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selected 1, signalled 1, queued 1, seq 5, exc 3564 0 red 189481 331 Apr 20 20:04:53 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task c6c90110, thg cdb1a100, sig 2 Apr 20 20:07:14 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selecting to kill, queued 0, seq 6, exc 8071 0 goal 8071 0... Apr 20 20:07:14 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task d7294050, thg c03f42c0, sig 1 Apr 20 20:07:14 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): selected 1, signalled 1, queued 1, seq 6, exc 8071 0 red 189481 331 Apr 20 20:07:14 EL135 kernel: kill_signal(13516.0): task d7294050, thg c03f42c0, sig 2 Watchdog is a watchdog task, that was idle; nothing in the logs to suggest it had done anything for days. Its job is to restart one of the applications if it dies, so a bit ironic that it is the first to get killed. Tail was monitoring a few logs files. Unlikely to be consuming memory madly. The apache web-server only serves pages to a little old lady who only uses it to get to church on Sundays a couple of developers who were in bed asleep, and hadn't visited a page on the site for a few weeks. The only traffic it might have had is from the port-scanners; all the content is password-protected and not linked from anywhere, so no spiders are interested. Python is running two separate custom applications. Nothing in the logs to suggest they weren't humming along as normal. One of them was a relatively recent implementation, which makes suspect #1. It doesn't have any data-structures of any significance, and normally uses only about 8% of the total physical RAW. It hasn't misbehaved since. The grep is suspect #2, and the one I want to be guilty, because it was a once-off command. The command (which piped the output of a grep -r to another grep) had been started at least 30 minutes earlier, and the fact it was still running is suspicious. However, I wouldn't have thought grep would ever use a significant amount of memory. It took a while for the OOM killer to get to it, which suggests it wasn't going mad, but the OOM killer stopped once it was killed, suggesting it may have been a memory-hog that finally satisfied the OOM killer's blood-lust.

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• Inspiring the method of teaching. Example- C++ :)

  - by Ashwin

  A year ago I graduated with a degree in Computer Science and Engineering. Considering C++ as the first choice of programming language I have been in the process of learning C++ in many ways. At first - five years back - I had many conceptions, most of which were so abstract to me. It started when I knew almost everything about Structs in C and nothing about Classes in C++. I went through a great time experimenting them all and learning a lot. I had a hard time evaluating Procedural programming vs Object-Oriented Programming. Deciding when to choose Procedural or Object-Oriented Programming took a great deal of patience for me. I knew that I cannot underestimate any of these Programming styles... Though Procedural programming is often a better choice than simple sequential unstructured programming, when solving problems with procedural programming, we usually divide one problem into several steps in order regarded as functions. Then we call these functions one by one to get the result of the problem. When solving problems with Object Oriented Priciples we divide one problem into several classes and form the interaction between them. Evaluating these two at the beginning (as a learner) required a lot of inspiration and thoughts. Instructing to think step by step. Relative concepts to understand deeply. Intensive interests to contrast both solving in both POP and OOP. If you were ever a mentor: What ideas/methods would you teach to students in which it will Inspire them to learn a programming language (in general, computer sciences)?

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• When was the last time you had a BSOD or kernel panic?

  - by Bruce McLeod

  The last time I saw a BSOD (Blue screen of death) was when Windows 7 tried to sleep in Parallels 3 which hadn't implemented ACPI for windows 7. Apart from that I can't recall the last time I had a blue screen. Has driver signing finally stopped frequent kernel panics?

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• How do I (and do I even want to) delete outdated versions of the Linux kernel?

  - by NoCatharsis

  I notice that GRUB (or is it GRUB2?) asks which version of Linux I'd like to boot, and outdated versions of the kernel are listed. How do I remove these and their associated files to save disk space? Since I'm new to Linux, is there any reason why I shouldn't remove them?

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